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Seagate EXOS HDD OEM SATA NEW 18TB $309, 16TB $277, 14TB $233 / [Recertified] EXOS X22 22TB $416 Delivered @ East Digital HK

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In addition to their eBay store, East Digital have setup an overseas Shopify store which is cheaper. As per the previous deals warranty is 3 years via them. Check previous deals for comments and check eBay Feedback. Shipping is either via FedEx and is really quick, or a few people from the previous deal including myself delivery was via Hong Kong Post which took 10 days to arrive.

A few from the last post have had to return for warranties. Return labels were provided and it looks like they have a local address for Returns in Kerrimuir VIC going by comments in the last post with either replacements or refunds provided.

They have the following pricing for brand new OEM drives with 3 year warranty-

  • Seagate 14TB ST14000NM001G Exos X16 512e 3.5" SATA - $233
  • Seagate 16TB ST16000NM001G Exos X16 512e 6Gb 3.5 SATA $277
  • Seagate 18TB ST18000NM000J Exos X18 512e 4Kn 6Gb/s- $309

And they have the following Factory Recertified Drives with 3 year warranty-

  • Seagate Exos 16TB ST16000NM000J 3.5 X18- $246
  • Seagate Exos 18TB ST18000NM000J X18- $277
  • Seagate Exos ST22000NM001E X22 3.5 22TB- $416

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  • +1

    I was looking at these earlier, I was going to comment on our last thread to mention, but figured it wouldn't do a whole lot. (and didn't have the time to write out a proper thread like you've done)

    It was interesting seeing the 22TB exos there and that the recertified drives had 3yr warranty instead of the previous 1yr warranty.

    The 14TB recertified WDs from memory were quite a good price.

    • Agreed interesting to see 22TB Recertified from AUG 2023 as per the label in the photo. Going by posts on Reddit apparently if a data center orders a pallet of drives and 1 is faulty the whole pallet is returned and then Seagate Rectifies the whole lot. Don't know how much truth there is to this. But as you mention at least ED offers 3 years on these to.

      • That's possibly true, but even still, we'd probably be much more likely to get our hands on one that was returned by a user instead of one from the pallet.

        The price hike on the 22TBs compared to the 18TB doesn't seem to be worth it. I haven't gone over the differences between X18 and X22 to see if there's any innovation that's been implemented making it worth the premium. Not to mention quite a few NAS/DAS's have a 20TB drive limit, so users may want to confirm their hardware if they decide to go through with it.

        • +1

          Not to mention quite a few NAS/DAS's have a 20TB drive limit, so users may want to confirm their hardware if they decide to go through with it.

          Was tempted to roll the dice and get 2 of the 22TB Recert drives for the last 2 slots in my DS1821+ and convert my array to SHR-2, but like you said I believe my Synology caps at 20TB as there are mixed messages about this on Reddit.

          • @Spizz: That's a shame. You could always check their website and see if they have a one-click customer support chat, most of the time support is useless though, by eagerly giving you misinformation.

                     TLDR: Going on about specs :TLDR
            

            I went over the spec documentation before, for some reason all I could find was on the website was pdfs for their x18, x20 and x24(but not x22), so I had to compare x20 and x24 to get an idea of what 22 might be like, then compare that with the x18(which we own).
            The cache on the x20 is 256, while the x24 has 512, so the x22 could be either.
            Same set of features from x18-x24.
            1.0W higher on average for idle usage for the x24 over the 18 and 20, about the same (W) for max operating.
            —-I just found the X22 spec pdf, fml—-
            The IOPS are about the same, 2MB less Random Read for the x22, seq transfer is 285MB peak instead of 270MB and the cache was 512.
            TLDR: Going on about specs :TLDR

            So, all-in-all, unless you're utilizing the additional cache, it'd probably be better value to put the additional money (the $130 extra per drive [x18tb vs x22tb]) into the NAS or an expansion.

            • +1

              @Beyond:

              So, all-in-all, unless you're utilizing the additional cache, it'd probably be better value to put the additional money (the $130 extra per drive [x18tb vs x22tb]) into the NAS or an expansion.

              Thanks mate for all the info you found. I wasn’t so much concerned about the price being slightly more expensive per TB as it is the last 2 slots in my 8 Bay NAS and I didn’t want to look back and say I should of gone bigger.

              Having said that I’ll probably just grab another 2* 18TB Seagate from them and convert to SHR-2.

              I don’t think I’ll be investing much more in my DS1821 as I just installed a 10gbe card in it and just purchased 2*10Gbe switches. An QNAP one and a Zyxel one. I don’t feel the need to expand memory or add SSD cache to it. But never say never.

              • +1

                @Spizz: @Spizz

                as it is the last 2 slots in my 8 Bay NAS and I didn’t want to look back and say I should of gone bigger.

                I completely understand. I've had a spare M.2 slot in my mobo for ages now as I've been waiting for an 8TB gen 4 deal.

                Having said that I’ll probably just grab another 2* 18TB Seagate from them and convert to SHR-2.

                I was certainly tempted to grab some more drives too, I've been using the sata's on the mobo primarily and swapping out smaller drives as I've put new ones in.

                I don’t think I’ll be investing much more in my DS1821 as I just installed a 10gbe card in it and just purchased 2*10Gbe switches. An QNAP one and a Zyxel one. I don’t feel the need to expand memory or add SSD cache to it. But never say never.

                Sounds lovely. I nearly jumped on that recent switch deal from a few days ago(got taken down for lack of quantity). I've spent a lot of time lately looking at DIY builds for NAS/DAS' and the pre-built expansion capabilities of Synology's lineup.
                The 10Gbit port on my mobo has sadly been doing nothing for a couple of years now.

                It's good that you've figured out how you want to set your network and storage up.
                A pity that Google Drive doesn't still offer unlimited storage for their enterprise workspace plans. I'm stuck paying for that monthly just so they don't dump 100s of TBs of online storage.

                • +1

                  @Beyond:

                  I nearly jumped on that recent switch deal from a few days ago(got taken down for lack of quantity).

                  That’s the one I got. The QNAP QNAP 6-Port QSW-2104-2T for $206 delivered. And the Zyxel XGS1250-12 12-Port for $398 Delivered. Thinking about posting the latter as a deal. Just waiting for it to arrive. Should be here this week.

          • @Spizz: They list the maximum size available at the time they did the marketing. There is no technical reason for a 20TB limit. There was at 2TB for some controllers because of address space years ago but the next address space issue is many many thousands of tb away.

      • if a data center orders a pallet of drives and 1 is faulty the whole pallet is returned

        Doesn't make sense and I never seen this in practice. Can someone confirm this? What happen if the last drive found to be faulty? will they uninstall all the drives that has been installed racked? will they wait for another pallet shipment if the first drive faulty?

        • +2

          its probably an urban myth started by the sellers of "recertified" drives…must be nice to offer people something thats a roll of the dice and still get paid - the equivalent of a car salesmen selling lemons…too rich for my blood….ill spend more and get an iron cast manufacturer warranty, every time

          • @amosmilburn: I agree it’s always a chance with Recert drives and each person weighs up the risks.

            As for ED warranty I have no such issues with the 3 years they offer. They have stood behind it for the past 2 years people have been buying from them on Ozb and the past 10 years they have been on eBay from their feedback.

            For an extra $400 you can have local warranty if thats important.

        • +2

          Work in a data centre and this isn't true. Or at least for us.

          • @Clear: Thanks. It didn’t sound like it made sense to waste that much money for either Seagate or the data centre.

  • For those interested in making a reasonably sized array with the 14TB drives.

    NEW
    - Seagate 14TB ST14000NM001G Exos X16 512e 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Enterprise Hard Drive - $233.00 AUD
    Factory Recertified
    - Seagate Barracuda Pro ST14000DM001 14TB 3.5 256M 6Gb/s Internal SATA Hard Drive - $199.00 AUD
    - WD Ultrastar 14TB WUH721414ALE6L4 SATA HC530 LFF 0F31284 Enterprise Hard Drive - $170.00 AUD

    • I was looking at the 14Tb ones as the best $/TB value. Is there any significant reason that I wouldn't want to use the Ultrastars in a HP Microserver as a 4 drive raid array?

      • +2

        I can't speak for your device specifically, but the Ultrastars are listed as "LFF" for large-form-factor, which could end up being an issue for your array. Also, I'm unsure which raid you plan on going with.

        If I was going for the 14TB recertified, I'd personally want them in a slightly larger array with a 10Gbit nic, combining some redundancy with enough drives to get within a respectable margin for the hardware throttle.

        I remember when I got a 14TB WD elements that I had to shuck for just over $300 during the lockdown and I considered that to be a great deal for years onwards. So, the idea that they can be obtained for $170 each w/ a 3yr warranty is crazy good, in my opinion.

        • I just bought a X18 exos 3 days ago for $399 :(

          • @Vladdo: An 18TB X18? Rough… The deal from last month(same site), most of us got them for a bit under $300. I think the site might have even been available when you made your purchase.

        • +4

          LFF just means standard 3.5", as opposed to SFF which is 2.5" (thickness varies)
          I'm running 4 x 18Tb Exos in my HP Microserver Gen 8 (bought from the very good amazon deal last year).
          There are only 2 problems with the HP Gen 8.
          1. SATA2 on 2 of the 4 slots… not a big issue for an array of spindles but still.
          2. Not booting from the ODD SATA without some workarounds (workarounds include 1. running in legacy instead of AHCI; OR better is - 2. running grub off the internal usb/microSD, with the rest of the OS on the SSD in the ODD slot).

          • @jkim: I haven't looked at the dimensions specifically, but I know that my 18TB X18 EXOs fit quite easily into my drive bay while my 18TB WD drive got stuck in the rack. After managing to get it out many hours later, I ended up grinding back some of the plastic on my drive bay before placing it in the spot with the most room to avoid the same issue.

            • +1

              @Beyond: Like I said, thickness varies and that's how your drive got stuck.
              LFF and SFF aren't an indication of thickness, but whether it's 2.5" vs 3.5".

            • +1

              @Beyond: Yep, jkim is right, LFF literally just means "not a 2.5" drive"

              • @Zorlin: Umm, I don't think that's what he's saying.

                To my interpretation, he's saying that LFF and SFF are associated form factors.

                My original thought process on LFF was that it was similar to E-ATX and Cat7 in the sense that the labelling used wasn't an official standard, since I hadn't seen the LFF abbreviation used in HDD titles or descriptions much.

                I went over a few document pages to get some consistent clarifications, but otherwise, I'm always happy to absorb a constructive user's(jkim) post.

                • @Beyond: Yes, that wasn't quite what they were saying (are you saying I wasn't constructive?) - my interpretation is also the same, that they are talking about specific form factors.

                  LFF and SFF are quite common when building servers in an enterprise setting, I wouldn't say they're that common outside of that.

                  Saying it means "not a 2.5" drive" is an oversimplification but also mostly works; in most settings you will find that term, that's actually surprisingly good at clarifying :)

                  • @Zorlin:

                    LFF literally just means "not a 2.5" drive"

                    I'm also not sure anyone would agree with the use of "not an X" to refer to the Y.

    • I'm new to the Nas game - literally decided to look into it this week and set up an unraid.
      I was thinking of doing exactly this - keep the new one as parity drive and then the 2 others as the array. Is that what you were thinking?

  • +3

    I bought two Exos 18TB drives and have been running them in a separate ZFS pool with replaceable data to ‘trial’ them. Has been fine so far.

  • What is "Factory Recertified"??? 0 used time…???

    • +1

      Recertified are typically returns / unsold product so there is a chance of previous use

  • +1

    Hiyas, trying to find East Digital eBay store by chance anyone have a weblink to share

    .And thanks OP 👍

  • Looking at 2x 22TB for write once archive's and update them like 3-4 times a year..
    would it be ideal to write to all secotrs to test them out first or is that what the recert process does?

    • All I could do with the recert process is speculate, but if you're buying the drives to be used as backups, that seems a little overkill.

      To test them, I normally use Hard Disk Sentinel(I think Seagate has a similar free tool) and ideally, run an extended self-test followed by a sector test.

    • I use hdsentinel
      First a quick test
      Second self test (IE. Manufacturers procedure as written in the firmware)
      Third full read and write test

      • +1

        How long does that take?

        • About 4 days for a 20tb drive. If it's healthy. You might get errors earlier.

  • Interested to hear feedback on the recerts. I got a WD Red 22TB to chuck into my Plex server recently but happy to save the dosh if the recerts are just as good!

    • +2

      I got a Seagate Recert a while ago for my Plex Server, also from these guys (east digital). Said it had 0 hours on it but I think they reset that when 're certifying' it. Nonetheless, the drive has worked fine so far just like a brand new drive. Whether it will die sooner, who knows.

      They also have the warranty with it so bit of peace of mind

    • Brilliant.
      Bought from these guys, drives have about 1.5 years of use in my case, made in Taiwan drives (considered better than China drives by some), and passed extended SMART tests flawlessly.

  • I've bought a few drives from them the last one was the 14tb WD and it arrived to Melbourne in 2 days!

  • +1

    Other than the 22TB drive, all drives have DOM 2021 or prior. Does this mean the drive have been used for 3 years ?

  • Alot of these drives are $20-30 cheaper when buying direct via email. For example, Seagate 18TB ST18000NM000J Exos X18 512e 4Kn 6Gb/s- $309 is just $293 with free shipping. ($16 price difference)

    • Are you sure this is still the case as they point people to their shopify store as per comments from the last deal as well as my own experience.

  • What's the difference between the 2 new 16TBs they both have the same specs but one is $277, other is $253

    • They appear to be identical, exact same SKU's, likely made for different buyers with the basic sticker being OEM.

      They both claim to be new, so I would be getting the $253 one.

      • Interesting ref.white label drive.

  • One is New, the cheaper one Re-certified.

  • +1

    looking to get the 14TB for $233 for my plex server, is this a NAS drive or should i get a NAS drive.

    • The 14TB $233 is the same company behind the IronWolf NAS drives, they appear to be the same drive as far specs are concerned.

      I'll be getting that one as well.

  • Anyone else keep getting this on checkout? Stops me from checking out completely….

    Your payment couldn’t be processed because your order total has changed. Check your order total and try again.

  • The 18tb X18 is a 512e 4Kn drive. Are these compatible in a synology NAS ? Have 6 drives in the array and non are native 4k. Think Synology mentioned not to mix 512 and 4k in an array ?

  • It still bothers me you can't buy in larger quantities like 8, without going through email or buying multiple smaller quantities, which I don't want to do (because I want to increase my chances of the same set of drives).

    • +1

      They seem to have changed it to allow this so I’ve placed a big order! Let’s see how they go.

  • thinking about replacing an older 8tb drive in my unraid array with a new 16tb one but I really can’t justify it when I have so much storage left

  • Can anyone help out an inexperienced noob - I've got a 70% full 6-bay Synology with 4x4TB Ironwolf in SHR (2 spare slots).
    What is the best way of expanding the setup while remaining online? I know one way would be to buy a couple of 4TB and just expand into the 2 spare slots…..

    Would it be better to buy 4 larger drives, and hot swap them one at a time and rebuild the RAID?
    Or would it be faster to put 2 larger HDD into the spare slots and copy over all data, and then add 2 more large HDD and build the RAID from there?

    • The best way is to keep a backup of all your data using the 3-2-1 rule.

      The 3-2-1 backup strategy simply states that you should have 3 copies of your data (your production data and 2 backup copies) on two different media (disk and tape) with one copy off-site for disaster recovery.

      • Thank you for your advice. If I have laptop, NAS and offsite back up, that would satisfy those criteria, yes? Seeing as I have 2 spare bays - could I pop in 2x16TB disks to backup my 4 disc SHR every 3 months, and then store those disks at my office and parents' place?

        But in terms of the original question, I assume there are different ways to approach expansion plans, obviously taking into account different factors. I presume the optimal way would be a compromise of speed, efficiency, flexibility, cost effectiveness, complexity/foolproofness (least likely to stuff up).

        I collect data at a steady but not very high rate - database archival, lots of lectures/webinars, training material, image-heavy presentations, journal articles and textbooks etc. I could just add discs one at a time, but I'm not sure that's the best strategy… just interested in a more experienced perspective.

    • +1

      Need to replace those 4 drives one by one

      If it’s in raid 5 it will put your data on each drive as they are replaced (takes 12-24hrs per drive)

      Once they are all done you should have the option to expand capacity.

    • +1

      You should try to keep one spare slot - you have two. The idea is to add a new bigger drive before removing the old one. You add the new drive and the tell the NAS to us the new drive as a replacement for the old one.

      The advantage of doing this is you keep your raid protection even during the setup of the new drive.

      If you don't have a spare slot, you have to pull the old drive and slot in the new one. This degrades the array and you are at risk of a drive failure while the raid set rebuilds.

      So yeah, as you build out your array, try to keep one slot free - except during drive replacement.

  • Noob question. Can this hard drive be used for everyday storage? Or for something more specific.

    • +4

      It can be used for whatever you want to use it for.

      • +1

        Including kinky hard drive stuff…

  • how will these go with NVRs ?

  • +3

    Website seems to be down?

    • yep, finally settled on 3x 14TB for a new NAS build :(

      • Looks like the server is down or its Ozbargained. Ill expire the deal for now until it goes back up.

        • +1

          Appears to be back up now.

  • +1

    Still available. I just completed my purchase.

  • +1

    Just removed expiry.

  • +4

    i googled te 14tb model , ST14000NM001G, and it sells for $600-900, how are these people selling it for $233 brand new?!

  • Will be in HK later in the month, possible cheaper for pickup?

  • Nice deal. Pity no 20tb, as that’s my current synology setup

  • Down again.
    One does wonder why there was any returns for warranty at all, let alone multiple. ( from comment above )

  • +1

    Looks like their server is down again. I'll expire the deal again (until the site goes back up, no pun intended) as I assume they are getting hammered with orders.

    • If people ever need to email in regards to their order to follow up down the track here is one email address- [email protected]
      I believe there is another as I remember seeing 2 in the comments section of the last deal.

      • Thanks spizz… I missed out this time. But by the look of past deals they seem to get stock every month or so is that right?

        • I have no idea as to their stock levels. I always assume most things are always in stock. Best to email them.

          Pricing does fluctuate with the $USD though it sometimes feels opportunistic if something is popular like the 18TB drives which started out as $276 direct and are now at $309.

          The site could be back up soon or like during the last deal it could be a week. We shall soon see.

          • @Spizz: Oh, so they are more of a store. I had thought they were more a deals site and when they had them they had them. Thanks for the info

  • +2

    I'm very glad I put my order in last night instead of trying now!!

  • Does anyone know if the 18tb is available on their ebay store? I went looking but couldn't find it, only the 16tb one.

  • The EXOS drives are noisier than the IronWolf drives in my experience. Just something to think about if you're going to stick these in a room with you.

  • can anyone share their experience of sticking one of these in a pc, Im planning to buy one to throw into my gaming pc and was wondering if there was anything i should know if i purchased the 16tb, heard these are enterprise level hdds so they should be more "durable" than consumer ones. how loud do these get, i usually always have headphones in when im at my desk, as long as its not as loud as my gpu under full load i dont really mind the noise. Thanks in advance

    • they're quiet whilst not in use but gets a bit loud once random access happens on the drive. durability wise they are good and should last at least 3-5 years.

      the sound of hdd is different to GPU/fan, its more clicking sounds rather than spinning fan/wind sounds.

    • See NAS Compares video on the topic here: https://youtu.be/BW4FIWX1QKo. Though I can't imagine why you would put one of these in a gaming drive over a normal consumer drive?

      • thank you, i think i can live with the sound, i think the price per tb is what is crazy compared to consumer hdds, its just gonna be a drive for single player games idc about loading times and alot of videos and photos

  • +2

    And its back up again. Expiry removed.

    • 18TB has gone up to $319.00 on my end, just a FYI.

      • +2

        Thanks. Like I said in a post above opportunistic price rise by them sadly because of demand. From $276 over a month ago to $319.

        • Also looks like 14TB Sold out. So congrats to those whom got in at $233.

          16TB gone up by $1 to $277.

  • Ugh, just bought three X18 18TB for $400 each.

  • Whats the difference between the white and green label Seagate drives? both are Exos

    Green is $278, white is $261.

    • +2

      Green- New
      White-Factory Recertified

  • Anybody's order shipped yet?

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