Hey Folks,
I want to buy a MG3 Core Auto https://mgmotor.com.au/models/mg-mg3auto/
What's the best way to haggle for one? I live in Kallangur QLD, there appears to be 3 or 4 local dealers within reasonable distance of me.
Also are they any good? They have a 7 year warranty but I've no clue what their reputation is like or if their warranty is worthless, any feedback appreciated.
And 5 sets of floor mats
so 20 actual floor mats ?
So do I just start off with an offer of 16k and haggle from there?
At what point do I just walk if they aren't budging?
Do I just call the dealers by phone and ask for best price and then call next dealer and ask if they can beat "x" price until I find a winner?
Try motorscout
At what point do I just walk
When they offer to show you the door
FYI the 20% off is in jest… you're looking at the cheapest brand new car in the country, it's highly likely you won't get any discount off the car (I mean, it's $19,990 for a brand new car…)
Yeah I went to a haval dealership for a jolion test drive and the sale guy said no negotiation even with cars in stock
Also an FYI that the MG3 isn't ANCAP rated…
@spackbace: I'd pay 6k more to get a 5 star ancap jolion.
Or maybe even a cherry omada. But I don't if cherry is even trying to sell their cars when they got plenty on their lot whilst prices aren't that far off from lower trim established brands. 33k for one is kinda rip off for a new entry
Also an FYI that the MG3 isn't ANCAP rated…
Neither is the Toyota 70 series, and given this time next year, neither will the Corolla nor the Camry…
@spackbace: Are you suggesting that this chinese manufacturer may be making cars that fare poorly in safety tests? That would be truly shocking.
Lol you'd be lucky to get a set of carpets and a full tank of fuel. Good luck.
Go in there are offer the $16k, if they refuse, tell them you will take your business elsewhere and leave. They will soon call, begging you to come.back and buy. Also get free mats, tint and full tank of fuel.
minimum 20% off… or slip them the "or I'm walking"… This is the industry password to get the deal sealed.
Storage yards here in SA are full of MG's, can see 100s when on the port river express way at port adelaide.
Which as a result makes them very hagg-able
That's good to hear, it's nice to know used spare parts should be easy to find and cheap down the line.
so many Chinese brands have so much stock sitting.
But some dealerships aren't willing haggle due to it being already discounted.
Try your luck and ask
Except the same components will have failed on all of them
Sadly not much in that range now unless pay another 5k, see swift auto, polo auto, cerato auto, fiat 500 ect.
You'd get a decent second hand Toyota for that kind of money. It would be a better car and probably outlast a new MG.
Great Wall rebranded to MG what’s the next Chinese brand lol???
Hamborghini
It's actually SAIC, GWM's competitor.
Great Wall rebranded to MG what’s the next Chinese brand lol???
Well, you're going to laugh when you hear who owns Volvo, Polestar, Land Rover, Jaguar, Aston Martin, Lotus and plenty more. And you would be shocked if you actually did any research to find out where most of the Australian delivered vehicles out of the likes of VW, BMW, MB and the link are all built…
And as Drakesy said, MG is owned by SAIC, the same company that owns LDV (ironcially, also a previous British owned brand "Leyland DAF Vans"), not GWM.
Made up rubbish. It may prove true in the future, but Australian delivered BMW and VWs are not made in China. They make cars there solely for the Chinese market. Thank goodness for that, but they do not want to get stuck in that country noting the political issues with China ignoring international rules and norms and being in opposition to Western values. Making more money from cheap production may prove more attractive in the future so we may still end up with some crappy cheap Chinese made models in the future. For now we have to put up with some models being made in South Africa.
The new MG5 sedan is zero star ANCAP rated. 😅
Drove a few with a mate looking to buy a new car and they seem to have all the gadgets and gizmos with a very low price tag. Looks like good value for money though I personally wouldn't get one.
Both vehicles are fitted with little to no crash-avoidance technology – and lack features such as lane-keep assist, driver attention monitors, and speed warnings standard on the latest five-star safety-rated cars.
Thanks for the link, I’ve been looking for new vehicles without those annoying and distracting “driver assists”. Nearly every modern car now has it and you have to manually turn it off every time you start the car, it’s one reason why I don’t wanna upgrade my 17yr Honda.
I wonder how people avoided crashes 20 years ago?
also, have crash rates increased with the advent of anti-crash tech? stupid will always beat tech
I know of 3 (2 of them were kids) people who'd be alive today if a certain murderer drove a car with auto brakes.
95% of freeway accidents I see could be avoided with lane change assist and auto brakes. good on ancap for forcing this.
Sooner than later insurance costs will make it mandatory anyway
@azero: Surely if murderer wished to murder he or she could just turn off said assist and continue on. Nothing can stop them…
95% of freeway accidents I see could be avoided with lane change assist and auto brakes. good on ancap for forcing this.
I haven’t seen any freeway accidents in person, but I suspect the many I see on tv could be avoided if people left reasonable gaps.
I walk past a freeway every day, and I can see most drivers leave 2-3 car length gap. I can see because I am on an overhead bridge.
That’s about 10m-14m, at 100km, it’s around half a second gap, basically reaction time.
People are stupid, they need to leave a much bigger gap, and most of these cars probably have driver assistance. Tech can’t stop bad drivers from driving badly.
Get one second hand, would save a heap, be warned though they are the epitome of budget
MG3 Core Auto, how should I haggle, are they any good?
You should probably answer the 2nd question before answering the first.
Seems like a wasted opportunity, buying an MG unless its an EV
The arguably better competitor in the light car sector is Kia Picanto. I've rented MG3 a few times, cheap rubbish car but at least you're promised 7-years via warranty.
This is the correct answer. The MG is the bigger car but the Picanto is the better car. The Picanto has just received a refresh as well, so looks pretty neat.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with the MG, the Picanto just looks better, is better to drive, matches the MG on warranty, uses less fuel, and when it’s time to move onto something new, I’ll guarantee you’ll get more of your coin back from the Picanto.
Source: I owned an MG ZS until recently, and an… older… family member has an MG3.
Just to go off on a slight tangent, a brand new ZS can be had for $21,490. It’s a looooooot more car for not a lot more money.
Did you find the ZS to be yet another cheap, underpowered, rubbish MG just in SUV clothing?
Glad you asked (though it sounds like you’ve already come to your own conclusions) - I posted a little review of my experience in another thread about MG’s a while back. Here it is.
@jackary: I’ve rented my fair share of ZS & MG3. Thing is hardly anyone cares about driveability and most buyers are oblivious to depreciation being the biggest contributor to operating costs.
@jackary: You're a past ZS owner with an MG3 in the family; rated it a fine car; liked the upholstery & stereo; understand why other people buy them; think they're a lot of motoring for what you pay; rated it a sensible choice. You like interesting cars yet don't care about driveability or depreciation loss; but you're no car bore.
It’s slow, and just from an “engineering” perspective, it’s all pretty old hat technology.
The pleather seats were great but very hot in summer.
I had a couple of build issues and unfortunately Motorama (my closest MG dealer) were incredibly reluctant to help, to the point that there were still problems at the time I sold the car.
…but I was left with very little confidence that the warranty actually stood for anything by the end of it.
I ultimately sold a 9 month old car with just under 15,000km on it for a LOT less than I paid. Yes yes you always lose money on a new car, but 35% in such a short amount of time truly blew my mind.
Just to select most of the negative comments made in that post… I wouldn't really label someone who wrote those statements as a 'fan' personally
@spackbace: I too thought that initially, but my negative views of MG weren't well received so I owned them and retreated
There’s nothing inherently wrong with the MG,
This. It is budget transport, but there are plenty of ‘better’ cars available. It’s like comparing store brand groceries to brand name. They make it cheaper to sell by making it with cheaper stuff and cheaper design.
that gives MG 7 yrs not to honour it
You can only negotiate on 200k high yield investment performance cars.
You new here? This question has been asked again and again (with variations)
Discount: these cars are sold as being the cheapest possible. You won’t get much discount because they sell well and they’re already about as low as they can go.
Are they good: Chinese car buying down to a budget. Lots of ‘China car bad’ haters. Long warranty, but also am obviously budget build. You don’t sell a car cheap without cutting the costs of materials. Quality control has improved in Chinese cars, so it’ll be built OK, but there’s only so much quality control will do with budget materials abs basic design.
Why do YOU want to buy one without knowing much about them? Personally I would probably not want to buy one but if I was considering one, I’d drive it and compare to something similar. The. Probably end up with a 5yo Hyundai.
Don’t. Our RACQ guy told us NEVER to buy an MG. They are the car he’s most often called out for!
Don’t forget to have them throw in mud flaps if not installed/included by default. As for buying….as long as you set your expectations right, go for it. It’s disappointing that manufacturers like Hyundai won’t bring out an i20, or Honda discontinuing jazz imports, no more Mitsubishi Mirages, etc. whilst they may still end up being a few grand dearer, they would be better built cars.
Whilst I think these cars are great value, particularly if you drive a old dunger, and need a more reliable car.
I'd like to say this as far as safety ratings go:
I never really took much notice of Safety Features of a motor vehicle, until my significant other had a collision which was 100% not her fault.
Travelling on a major highway, roadworks meant a reduction from 100k/mh to 60km/h.
Driver - freshly minted P plater - travelling in the other direction at 60km/h fell asleep, and veered into oncoming traffic and collided head on with her.
Her car ended up bouncing off the other car, and then hit a boat being towed with another car behind Mr. Sleepy.
She walked away. The car was indistinguishable from the initial collision, and then hitting the boat.
The seat rails on the drivers side were still operational, when I went to the wrecking yard to collect personal items.
Her car? 5 star ANCAP rated.
Yeah, but what car and what were the cars she hit? Changes thinngs if she was driving a new Landcruiser and the p plater was driving an MG3
@Euphemistic - MY'11 Subaru Impreza. Mr Sleepy; 2003/4/5/6? Ford Falcon. Boat was a fiberglass fishing boat, dual cab ute the tug I think..
These are about to be released by an updated model. I'd only buy this current model if it was on run out special. Otherwise better off waiting for the new one to be released
Try renting one. It doesn't take long to see why these Chinese cars are so cheap.
Googling "MG3 Owner Reviews" reveals these pages.
I'd stay away.
Those are going to be biased towards the most extreme cases where people think they’ve got a platform for all their gripes.
But, you get what you pay for. It’s a cheaply made car at a budget price. Don’t expect Toyota quality or BMW driving dynamics and you might not be disappointed.
Minimum 20% discount. Is this right @pegaxs?