Reolink 4K Smart Person/Vehicle Detection PoE Camera Security System, H.265, 4pcs 8MP Outdoor Smart PoE Cameras, 8-Channel NVR w/Pre-Installed 2TB HDD for 24/7 Recording RLK8-800D4
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Is it worth it?
Yep, I also have an older 5mp set but upgraded to these for the person / vehicle detection which is great and works really well
In the title it says 4k then 8MP PoE, so confusing which is it?
8mp is 4k
4K = 8.3mp
Does it require a tradie to install the connection?
No you can run Ethernet yourself legally
Yeah that's right! You need a PhD to attached pre made ethernet to the camera and then to the NVR. Or .. wait? Pay exhortant amount of money for someone else to do the same job. For my PC build, I'm going to get a licensed cable installer to install the ethernet to the PC and modem 🤣🤣
@vinni9284: No one made any reference to the complexity of running the cables, the point was the legality of it.
@vinni9284: Probably would've been better just to move on rather than respond with your comments.
Some people don't have the knowledge or are not confident and want to be 100% sure even if it looks like a stupid question for others.
I've done it many times I'm sure (even without knowing it) 🤣😂
Once it goes inside the wall cavity you need a licensed cabler.
Only for insurance purposes.
They should also provide a completed TCA1 form, which most don't even know about or don't bother with.
So, if you can DIY then why would you pay extortionate fees for a licensed cabler?
@DoctorCalculon: Legally you can do it yourself provided you have a licensed cabler look over it and sign off an a TCA1.
But yeah, when you have a house fire it would be somewhat annoying to have the insurance policy cancelled due to illegally installed ethernet runs.
That's why you would pay for a licensed cabler.
Yes it does, however this is one of the most ridiculous laws around.
Save your money and do it yourself. It's all plug and play - there's no justification for forcing someone to use a licensed cabler for a job/system like this. Install will cost more than the camera system.
If working in the roof cavity turn the power off to be 100% safe.
💯. I did it myself and it's working perfectly. These are created to generate taxable ncome.
As with most laws, it's outdated. Allegedly was put in place when telephone switches were manually operated, and is to prevent people accidentally sending 240V down the telephone line and killing the operator. Source? Don't recall, probably heresy from the linked whirlpool thread.
@iMagoo: Laws get updated regularly as they have to keep up with inflation. Therefore the monetary penalties are increased and updated. So i doubt it's old. However this is something that will not be policed IMO.
I've had a security camera installer quote $1,300 to run 6 cables from 5 locations. Ridiculous.
I've since then put the job up on AirTasker for $500 and have had a few offers. Probably should have shot for $400.
I'd do it myself but I honestly can't be bothered. I'm also very time poor.
should just put it up for $5 and a cold glass of water like everyone else on AirTasker
For $400 it's probably a good investment. I got the same set up (only 5MP though) and was going to go down the same path but thought bugger it I'll give it a go.
Alot of sweating and swearing later I got it done but probably wish I went with the Airtasker option.
In Adelaide, $400 is about right for 6 cameras from a licensed cabler. Single-story, tiled roof.
Got one, ordered one on black friday for $675. Been sitting unopened in the box. Processed a return and ordered a new one.. ozbargainer much?
These are not like the stand alone 820a cameras. They cannot work stand alone and do not take micro sd. And have inferior AI notifications and tracking. But if you don't need this. It's a great deal
The recorder is work $400
Is that different to the 5MP Nvr bundle? I'm using those connected to a POE router (standalone) right now.
Great deal! But what I don't understand about these local storage security systems is if let's say someone did break in - they can easily just take the base and HDD with them to erase anything recorded..
I'd say you overestimate criminals. You could also set up a cloud link if this was a concern. if you have a cloud one, does it rely (at any point) on electricity? Criminals might turn off ur power before breaking in.
Maybe the cameras are battery-powered… but the base station/internet router is not… then you need a UPS to be fully safe.
Aint nothing fully safe, crim would just wear a balaclava and do their thing, cameras on or not
Correct but the camera will notify you if there was an event so you can make phone calls; whether that may change anything or not. It also can be used for proof or evidence for insurance claim. If you have a fancy set-up like me, you can have PTZ camera to track and zoom & ANPR camera to read licence plates. But then, that's on another several levels to these AIO packages
@vinni9284: You could be neighbours with your cop shop, they still wouldn't get there in time. Heard multiple accounts of break-ins/car thefts and police not even wanting the security footage.
@J4ckal: Regardless, I have them and they are the best thing I've done. I have House and contents insurance just in case but it's good to see what's happening in my street; pan, tilt and zoom the area whilst I'm away. Plus, I have two way mic which I have used to communicate with people at the front door. The cameras are quite intimidating so would be a deterrent for the petty thief. We pay for peace of mind and I am a little more rest assured. That's what matters.
good to see what's happening in my street
Amen. I am very close to setting up an all-around view of my house.
pan, tilt and zoom the area whilst I'm away
RLC-823A / 16X?
The motor noise it makes as it patrols the front will make some people uncomfortable.
@DoctorCalculon: No sorry. I got Hikvision 8MP bullet cameras around the house and a Hikvision 5MP PTZ at the front auto tracking. Cost me a packet but installed it myself. Best investment.
Make sure you put it somewhere they won't really find. I'm not a fan of having to pay for cloud storage.
Family had one and it is located in the top shelf of a cupboard. Out of the way since you don't need access to it much and would take people a while to find it if they really wanted to. Guess they wouldn't know if the cameras are cloud or locally stored so they would think they are wasting their time looking for it.
My 2 cents 🙃
You wouldnt locate the NVR in location that's on show or easy to find, you can also put a lock on the meter box. The fact that cameras are present is a deterrent in its self.
Criminals don't care about cameras. They are defeated by a beanie and a COVID mask. And even if you got a perfect 4K high resolution picture of the criminal, so what? You think the cops are going to run it through a global image recognition database and track down the perp using an army of drones? Of course not. They'll ask you if you recognise the person, you'll say no, and they'll say nothing we can do, here's your police report number.
If anything cameras attract more burglaries because it flags you as someone who buys lots of electronic gadgets.
I wouldn't recommend people install just security cameras without a house alarm system, but I get your point.
House alarm systems are also of dubious value. Far more useful is to keep your front door highly visible from the street, put a "beware of dog" sign on the front/side gate, sensor lights around the perimeter, crunchy gravel down side paths, etc etc
@Simon Wright: As already mentioned, cameras are useful for other purposes not just criminals. For example, when a tradesman wanted to charge me 7 hours work when the footage showed he was their for 5 or monitor parcel deliveries etc, etc. Crunchy gravel or beware of the dog won't help you monitor your property remotely.
@arsenal1: @arsenal1: The discussion was about cameras as a deterrent for burglary, not other useful reasons to have cameras. My argument was limited to that specific context only. I have cameras on my property for various reasons including those you mentioned, but I am not here to discuss those other uses.
@Simon Wright: Just a reminder of your comments.
"Criminals don't care about cameras"
"House alarm systems are also of dubious value"
You made it quite clear in your comments above your preferred deterrent. It's far more useful to keep your front door highly visible, crushed rock, lighting up the area so the crims can see what there doing at night and a sign saying beware of Cujo is your preference over cameras and alarms.
@Simon Wright: Oh Dear Simon, let's hope common Sense prevails here, not sales in dogs signs and crushed Rock.
House alarm systems are also of dubious value. Far more useful is to keep your front door highly visible from the street, put a "beware of dog" sign on the front/side gate, sensor lights around the perimeter, crunchy gravel down side paths, etc etc
You're kidding right… how exactly are you claiming cameras as useless, and an alarm system which detects motion, door/windows opening, (even glass getting smashed with the right sensors) as dubious value, then claim the real solution is to have your front door visible? How many break and enters occur through the front door? Almost none. You think an alarm system and security cameras won't deter thieves, but a $2 dog sign from Bunnings will? 😂 What will sensor lights around the perimeter achieve in the middle of the night apart from illuminating the area for the thief - who's going to be there to see anything? How does crunchy gravel achieve anything either? Have you not noticed a lot of thieves now go in wearing socks to reduce noise? You may have a point that cameras and alarm systems are not total deterrents to thieves, but your "far more useful" suggestions are just ridiculous and laughable in comparison.
@howcan: That's such an American view of security. So sad.
You're obsessed with irritating the burglar with noise after they've chosen your house and breached your premises. In my view, getting to that point means you have already failed. Once they've smashed one window, or picked up the iPad on your kitchen table, they've already cost you money and (far more importantly) your time.
It might seem ridiculous and laughable to you, but the way to not fail is to have a burglar not target your house in the first place, or otherwise abort their plans before they cost you time and money. This is a lot simpler than you think it is. Burglars will case your street before selecting the softest target. So make your house look less attractive than your neighbours. There's no one system to install, it's a culmination of many subtle things. Never let it look unoccupied. Never let it look like you're asleep upstairs. Never give them opportunities for time and cover. Avoid looking predictable. And definitely don't give them reason to suspect you spend lots of disposable income on gadgets and electronics.
How many break and enters occur through the front door? Almost none.
Of the four burglaries which have occurred to family or close friends, two involved entering through the front door. In both those cases the front doors couldn't be seen from the street (in one case due to overgrown landscaping, in the other case it was a rear townhouse) which gave the burglar time and cover to pick the lock.
Three of the four houses had burglar alarms which the owners never switched on, which is a whole other topic.
One of the four was a small apartment complex which had lots of cameras mounted on the ceiling. They caught excellent views of the burglars' baseball caps as they were leaving with some rather heavy looking backpacks.
@Simon Wright: The most satisfying arguments are the ones where the only response they have left is a downvote lol
Three downvotes = three white flags
@Simon Wright: The current downvotes could also mean, people believe your talking Shite, just saying, nothing personal.
That's such an American view of security. So sad.
LOL! As opposed to your non-"American view of security" which involves dog signs & covering the entire perimeter of your house in rocks and pebbles!?🤣
You're obsessed with irritating the burglar with noise after they've chosen your house and breached your premises. In my view, getting to that point means you have already failed. Once they've smashed one window, or picked up the iPad on your kitchen table, they've already cost you money and (far more importantly) your time.
Oh am I? That's interesting, because home alarm systems can be triggered instantly on the opening of a door or window, or upon a window getting smashed (with acoustic sensors) before anyone steps foot into the property. That's why they're one of the best deterrents, instead of your idea to illuminate the area for the thief. Seems you have no idea how effective they can be if setup properly.
It might seem ridiculous and laughable to you, but the way to not fail is to have a burglar not target your house in the first place, or otherwise abort their plans before they cost you time and money. This is a lot simpler than you think it is. Burglars will case your street before selecting the softest target. So make your house look less attractive than your neighbours.
So you think that a thief is going to target a house with visible house alarm and security cameras over a neighbouring house that has pebbles around the perimeter, a sensor light to illuminate the area for them, and a $2 dog sign from Bunnings!? Oh my 😂
There's no one system to install, it's a culmination of many subtle things. Never let it look unoccupied. Never let it look like you're asleep upstairs. Never give them opportunities for time and cover. Avoid looking predictable.
There's no one system to install, but house alarms and security cameras are useless compared to rocks and pebbles? Got it.
And definitely don't give them reason to suspect you spend lots of disposable income on gadgets and electronics.
How does a house alarm or some cheap cameras from Ebay give suspicion you have lots of disposable income? You realise it's just as common for thieves to target old houses with pensioners, who have little to no disposable income? You're just inventing total nonsense for the sake of it.
Of the four burglaries which have occurred to family or close friends, two involved entering through the front door. In both those cases the front doors couldn't be seen from the street (in one case due to overgrown landscaping, in the other case it was a rear townhouse) which gave the burglar time and cover to pick the lock.
I'm fascinated to hear you know so many people that have had their front door locks picked(what type of ridiculous crappy single door locks are they using!?), when it's far more likely for them to enter via an unlocked or improperly secured window, rear door etc or just brute force their way in. But it it's more fascinating that you claim the thief had plenty of time to pick the lock because of overgrown landscaping, but in the same breath you claim security cameras that would have instantly alerted the owners to motion at their front door(or even rear door, side of the house etc) are useless! 😂
Three of the four houses had burglar alarms which the owners never switched on, which is a whole other topic.
How's it a whole other topic? You literally put into question the value of house alarm systems, yet 75% of your examples the owners never had them armed which would have most likely scared the intruder off upon entry (or at least limited their time in the property) due to the potential increased attention to the property from neighbours.
One of the four was a small apartment complex which had lots of cameras mounted on the ceiling. They caught excellent views of the burglars' baseball caps as they were leaving with some rather heavy looking backpacks.
Yep, so not a personal security camera system that can send instant alerts of motion to the owners phone. Which is what this deal is for 🙄
@howcan: The fact that you laugh at people who don't arm their burglar alarm when they go upstairs to sleep just shows how divorced from reality you are. Maybe you spend every waking moment maximising your security stance and waiting for notifications on your phone (let's hope you don't get burgled at night while you're asleep) but that's simply not realistic for 99% of people.
I realise that the hypnotic appeal of complex solutions to simple problems is a hard spell to break, but maybe think for a moment that there's a reason why I'm advocating for an approach that seems ridiculous.
The fact that you laugh at people who don't arm their burglar alarm when they go upstairs to sleep just shows how divorced from reality you are. Maybe you spend every waking moment maximising your security stance and waiting for notifications on your phone (let's hope you don't get burgled at night while you're asleep) but that's simply not realistic for 99% of people.
Hah. Did you ever actually specify the scenario of an intrusion at night into a 2 story house where the occupants sleep upstairs? You really have a poor ability to describe or discuss scenarios. If owners don't want to partially arm their alarm zones then they can supplement their security with a modern camera systems(such as this one) with live notifications on person detection during certain hours & in certain zones. It really isn't rocket science and the apps are easy to use and setup. It's just hilarious you can't get it through your head that a setup like that would be a million times more effective at detecting and alerting the occupants to an intruder at night than your absurd idea of a pebble moat that no one is going to hear while sleeping, or a sensor light that no one is going to see turn on. Time to get a grip son.
On a side note, it's actually quite amusing that your family and friends have one of the worlds leading security experts in their presence, yet so many of them have had their houses broken through absurdly basic means. Can we assume that they've been listening to your expert advice? 😂
@howcan: Oh I get it now. You're that person who spends all day telling their friends and family how to do everything and how to live their lives. Not me. They're grown adults. They've got home and contents insurance. I don't scold them for putting their car keys in a bowl when they get home. If they want advice they know who to ask. A decent portion of family and friends have, and none of them have ever been burgled, though I admit that could just be coincidence.
Your malformed misinterpretations of my advice is unfortunate, but I do see why you are confused. Which is fine. I do wish you the best and I hope you're never burgled, or if you are, that you your phone does ding while you're not asleep or in a meeting and you manage to jump in an Uber which makes it to your home just 30 minutes after they've gone so you can pore over the crystal clear footage of people wearing baseball caps and cloth COVID masks.
Oh I get it now. You're that person who spends all day telling their friends and family how to do everything and how to live their lives. Not me. They're grown adults. They've got home and contents insurance. I don't scold them for putting their car keys in a bowl when they get home.
Oh I see, you're not the person to tell anyone everyone how to do do everything or how to live their lives, you're just the person that voluntarily inserts themselves into product discussions on a bargain forum to lecture hundreds of thousands of people on how pointless the most common & popular type of modern home security product is and what everyone should be doing instead. Thanks for clarifying that.
If they want advice they know who to ask.
Why don't you apply the same rule to internet forums?
A decent portion of family and friends have, and none of them have ever been burgled, though I admit that could just be coincidence.
Oh wow. You actually think there's a chance that a "decent portion" of your friends and family haven't been burgled, thanks to your expert advice? Oh dear. Just goes to show you know nothing about burglary statistics. Sorry to break it to you champion, but the overwhelming majority of people will never experience a break in into their home, it has nothing to do with the nonsensical ideas you're mashing into your keyboard.
How many of your friends have family have followed your expert ideas and removed their security alarms and cameras(which apparently advertises high disposable income 😂) and replaced these security systems and deterrents with a pebble moat? Is that zero? Jeez, I wonder why. Damn those Christmas family lunches must be awkward, everyone politely listening to your crazy ideas just screaming inside for the conversation to end, much like everyone reading your comments on here so far.
I do wish you the best and I hope you're never burgled, or if you are, that you your phone does ding while you're not asleep or in a meeting and you manage to jump in an Uber which makes it to your home just 30 minutes after they've gone so you can pore over the crystal clear footage of people wearing baseball caps and cloth COVID masks.
Huh. Why does the home owner need to attend the property? There are countless examples in recent times where people have remotely captured people in their house on their cameras, and phoned police to attend immediately. You really have some strange, insulated and warped view of the world. Time to stop reading interweb forums and actually get a little life experience before declaring yourself as some sort of guru.
Huh. Why does the home owner need to attend the property?
On demand cloud streaming access must be a new concept for some folks here. ;-)
Its a deterent and is effective with further security measures such as an Alarm, security door etc. A friend of mine realised his house was on fire via looking at his camera footage and saved his house. It's not all about the crims
I agree. They can be very useful for insurance too. Here I was specifically replying to someone discussing the value of cameras for break-ins.
And even if you got a perfect 4K high resolution picture of the criminal, so what? You think the cops are going to run it through a global image recognition database and track down the perp using an army of drones? Of course not. They'll ask you if you recognise the person, you'll say no, and they'll say nothing we can do, here's your police report number.
Not always true. If a good image can be captured then there a lot of cases where local police will recognise recidivist offenders from the area. Most crime is committed by repeat offenders. Does it change the outcome? No, it may assist in getting them charged & convicted, but it will rarely eventuate in you getting your stuff back.
If anything cameras attract more burglaries because it flags you as someone who buys lots of electronic gadgets.
Is there any evidence or data to support this?
If a criminal is going down a street looking to break into a house and all the houses but one has a CCTV system the house without cameras will often be the main target.
Most crims are pretty dumb but they're looking for easy targets that won't attract too much attention. Targeting a house with CCTV means there's a very good chance it will also have an alarm system. Plus the owners of a good quality CCTV system will know the minute someone is on their property (not just in it) and can either call the police or get someone else to attend.
The actually dumb crims are the ones which get caught, acting irrationally because they can only think about their next drug hit. They'll target homes near where they live, so generally only a risk if you live in a rough suburb. Most burglaries are a smaller number of two or three person crews with enough brain capacity to have some kind of plan. They case the street, exercise patience, can pick a typical lock cylinder, and won't trash your home while looking for a small number of items of value. And the number one thing they'll look for are car keys in a handbag or the bowl on the kitchen table.
Very good deal - I paid 550$ for the 2K set…
For a 5th camera, can i just get one of these?
You should be able to. I have a mix of Reolink Camera on the same NVR.
Yes you can. I have this exact bundle and bought the RLC-820A as my 5th camera. Works perfectly fine
What's the difference between the two cameras in the links you posted?
What is the viewing angle on these cameras?
87 degrees.
How is the camera performance in night time, if anyone has installed this?
Pretty good, just turn off the internal IR
buy now cancel later
Can also buy discounted gift cards. Buy $150 Prezzee gift cards through the nab deal for an extra $10 per $150 gc
Convert to Amazon then
Pulled the trigger….. Thanks for the post.
Anyone recommend a little lock box thing for it?
I'll see what is around.
just put in in the attic but not sure if these will overheat up there?
Yeah mine is pretty hot. I have a few alternatives if a cheap easy box can't be found.
Mainly wanted as a replacement for the DVR but is Reolink compatabile with Hikvision / X2 cameras?
No loss if not as would just use the included cameras,
Cheers,
Get the compatible Hikvision NVR. Ebay are selling cheap genuine NVRs. Don't fall for that grey import advertising crap to sway you. They just want you to purchase local for 3 times the price I bought through ebay and it's been perfect. Firmware update etc work
Same league as Dahua/ Hikvision?
No. Hikvision is the best IMO
I used to think so.
But, some Dahua cameras beat HikVision hands down within the same price bracket.
For example, Dahua with TiOC 2.0.
One of my 8mp bullet colovu accusense cameras have a 2 way mic, strobe and alarm so nothing new here. They even sell bomb proof cameras … enough said
@vinni9284: Not within the same price bracket as a Dahua TiOC 2.0 with SMD 4.0 and AI features.
They even sell bomb proof cameras
As do Dahua if you are willing to fork out $$$.
On the intercom side of things, HikVision modular Gen 2 system is the winner. I don't think Dahua has something similar.
reolink is consumer grade whereas the latter two are geared towards commercial
Reolink is below Dahua. I have Dahua my Daughter has reolink.
Running Blue iris with AI is the way to go much better than Reolink or Dahua's os. Just a Bit more complex.
Blue Iris is great, but sucks that it's windows only.
I'm considering changing to Frigate NVR.
How is it compared to HikVision cameras?
Also, can this be integrated to any door bell /intercom ?
I have Hikvision 8mp Colorvu cameras and they are fantastic. But then, 1 of these camera are worth more than this whole package
You paid way too much if one of your colourvu cameras was over $539!
No I didn't. That's Aus retail price. I paid half of that through ebay. Edit. This is the camera but not this price. As you can see the inflated price of $700 reduced. But you get my rationale. Even at this price, you're $100 short of this whole package for only one camera
https://www.securitywholesalers.com.au/product/hikvision-ds-…
Uses 1/2.49" CMOS Sensor. Which isn't bad. The equivalent would be 150-200 dollars for mainstream brands like dahua, hikvisiion etc
does this one have colour night vision? or can you buy separate cameras to add on later with night vision and AI ? like this one ref https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/816875
What would it cost approximately to have these installed professionally?
Probably $400-$700
Closer to $1k these days.
Ok. Thanks. I'm out of touch
@Whatisthatvelvet: Tradie prices are ridiculous.
It's cheaper and quicker to get an apprenticeship and learn how to do things yourself than find and pay for a tradie these days.
200 per cam
Damn, i paid ~$610 over cyber monday for this on Kogan