Half price on the charger, capable of 100W through a single USB-C port. Two USB-C (PD3.0), two USB-A (QC3). 4 port hub has dropped even more from RRP$10, 60% off.
Less likely to turn into a fireplace compared to the Amazon favourite.
Anko 100W PD3.0 4 Port USB Wall Charger $39, USB-C 3.1 to 3.0 4-Port Hub $4 + Delivery ($0 OnePass/C&C/in-Store) @ Kmart
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Writing on the side: Hot parts!
What do you expect? It is a 100W Anko !!!
10 of these can be used to heat a small room…
Not expecting anything. Just saying ;)
Manufacturer warranty: 12 months
you can always easily return it if there are issues…
@Flirtle: Actually, warranty on houses are 2 years. Reduce from 7 years because they are not Designed to last for that long.
This would sell well written on underwear
Thought it said hot pants….wait 30mins before handling
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Also even before the cables are attached to drag it this is a lot of weight for the socket
You need the weight for heat sinks
I thought heat rises?
That's why you gotta sink it!
Can this be used to charge a laptop and a backup option?
Comfortably, might be slow for beefy workstations though.
Thanks. Just after a spare charger for a MacBook Pro and HP elitebook (both 13”)
100w is enough for those laptops, not sure is the elite book even accepts over 100w?
@McFly: Wrong. 65 is when using two usb c ports at the same time. Read the manual.
USB C1/C2: DC 5V 3A/ 9V 3A/ 12V 3A/ 15V 3A/ 20V 5A
USB C1+ USB C2: 65W+30W
Depends on the wattage. 60w max (and voltage)
100W out of a USB-C port, only 18W out of a USB-A port
Can you get USB A ports that have more than 18W?
USB A1/A2: 5V=3A, 9V=2A, 12V=1.5A
USB C1/C2: 5V=3A, 9V—-3A, 12V—-3A, 15V—-3A, 20V—-5A
USB A1/A2+ USB C1/C2: 18W+65W
USB A1+ USB A2: 7.5W+7.5W
USB C1+ USB C2: 65W+30W
USB A1+ USB A2+USBC1/C2: 7.5W+7.5W+65W
USB A1/A2+USB C1+USB C2: 18W+60W+20W
USB A1+ USB A2+USBC1+USBC2: 7.5W+7.5W+60W+20WI understand what this charger does. I was asking if you can get any other chargers that output more than 18W through USB A.
I never understand this,
5V=3A, 9V=2A, 12V=1.5A
How as a user I choose how many volts I'm supplying?@TaurusHead: The power supply is capable of those currents at those voltages. The device negotiates which voltage it wants with the supply, in this case via the QC3 or USB-PD protocols.
You, as a user, do not choose directly. Some devices may provide you a choice (e.g. some phones let you turn off fast charging).
@elusive: So you are saying that the charger decides how much voltage to use based on how many Ampere is required as an outcome?
Sorry I'm asking all electronics here but I've seen these kind of details on the charger and never followed why there are multiple choices@TaurusHead: The device decides what voltage it wants and requests that from the power supply ("charger"). All negotiation is initiated by the device, not the supply.
The power supply MUST NOT EVER supply a voltage (above 5 V) that a device did not explicitly request. Because that's how you destroy the device.
As for the current, a current rating on the supply is simply a max limit. So this supply can provide up to 3A on 5V, or up to 2A on 9V, or up to 1.5A on 12V, on the USB-A ports. There is no obligation to actually use up to that limit - if a device has requested 9V, it can decide to only pull 500mA at that voltage and that would be perfectly valid.
@TaurusHead: The user doesn't choose anything. The device negotiates with the charger automatically.
My Oppo stock charger does 65w from a type A port.
Poco phones get 33W out of type A ports too. 67W for the F5. Weirdly enough though it's much lower power output with USB C like only 18W. So must be part of xiaomi's proprietary specs again mentioned above.
You won't get more than 18W out of a USB-A port from other brands as well. The standard all describe 18W, even for quickcharge out of a USB A port. Anything higher needs a USB C.
Oppo and Oneplus phones have had higher than 18w charging from a USB-A to C cable for years. My Oneplus 7 Pro charged at 30w using this adapter, looks like they went even higher with UDB-A out.
Bought one, not sure why LOL
seems pretty good deal with free delivery using OnePass
Anyone mistaken Anko with Anker?
same, was surprised at the price until i clicked the link
Nope we know when we see a cheap brand
does not advertise itself as GaN
trying to find a similar white box item but most have the USB A ports below the USB C (reverse of this)
does not advertise itself as GaN
Probably because it isn't
trying to find a similar white box item but most have the USB A ports below the USB C (reverse of this)
Does that really make much difference?
Probably because it isn't
Apple 70W Charger is but does not mention it
I don't think it would be on-brand for Apple to advertise the type of semiconductor they use in their charger. People buy an Apple charger because it's made by Apple
If you're making a cheapie though you'd want to flaunt it
It's the difference between 60-70% efficiency and 80-94% efficiency.
Or alternatively the difference between paying for and wasting 30-40% of your energy, or 6-20% of your energy.
Wow! I didn't know that having USB A ports below the USB C made a difference to energy efficiency
@spaceflight: What are you talking about?
Im talking about whether a charger uses GaN transistors or regular silicone based transistors.
This has nothing to do with ports or cables. Maybe there's some sort of misunderstanding?
Maybe there's some sort of misunderstanding?
You must have read my question and linked it to the GaN part above, which was unrelated
The below had nothing to do with GaN
trying to find a similar white box item but most have the USB A ports below the USB C (reverse of this)
Does that really make much difference?
Don't forget the difference in your cable makes to the efficiency as well.
But in the end, how much do you spend on electricity to charge your laptop?
I think someone calculated to charge a mobile phone for a year. Costs about $1 electricity.@furyou: If the cost of electricity is around 30c a kWh, and you charge up a 90Wh a day, then it's about $10 a year.
Assuming 30% of that's waste, over 1-4yrs then $3-12 extra is more than enough for a GaN unit per some recommendations I've linked in another comment.
The bigger issue with efficiency is scaling this to populations, it affects the grid hugely and minimizing that whether the cost directly affects us or not, electricity will only result in us getting cheaper electricity if we are more efficient on a semiconductor level.
@SmoothCactus: You have your numbers mixed up.
For these sort of power levels, GaN can give around a 30% reduction in losses. That does not mean the losses are 30% overall with Silicon FETs.
30% reduction in losses is a total change in efficiency closer to 3%.
For example, imagine a 91% efficient, 100W charger. The charger takes 110W, and loses 9% (10W) as heat.
A 30% reduction in the losses from switching to GaN means going from 10W of losses, to 7W.
The GaN charger is around 93.5% efficient. So we see an increase in overall efficiency of 2.5%.
Which in your example, means a saving of about 32 cents a year.
There are many reasons that GaN chargers are great, and they are often a bit more efficient. But there are many other factors that make a much bigger difference to efficiency for USB-C chargers.
For example, efficiency depends on load, and the charger will be designed for a certain load to be most efficient. Individual average power draw will have a much bigger impact on efficiency.
The actual design is important too, and if you compare published efficiency ratings for the Anker chargers, you see that while the newer GaN based options are much smaller than their older equivalents, they actually have slightly worse efficiency rating - especially at low loads.
A well designed charger using quality parts is much more important for efficiency than GaN FETs, or not.
Yeah presumably it thus is not GaN
Bit strange because I would have thought it needs to be GaN to fit into such a small package. But I'm also assuming it's not (which means I won't buy it).
The heat warning also suggests it's non-GaN, since if it's less efficient it will produce a lot more heat.
This isnt small by any means, it's very easy to cram a basic PD power supply that's 100w in here.
Honestly I'd be surprised if it could keep up 20V 5A for very long before thermal throttling on either side kicked in anyway.
It was able to handle 45W for 40 minutes to charge my phone. I'm sure it can handle the 65W advertised but I can't say I've tested that yet.
Wrong. It can do 100W from a single usb c port. 65 is when using two usb c ports at the same time. Nog misleading. Read the manual.
USB C1/C2: DC 5V 3A/ 9V 3A/ 12V 3A/ 15V 3A/ 20V 5A
USB C1+ USB C2: 65W+30WHi Shxhshzhz, just had a read through the manual, you are correct It does 100w out of a usb c port. The back of the packaging had me confused as it said USB C1+C2 at 65W+30W. Thanks for clarifying!
Their manual has a visual image on the second page regarding watts per portal and combination.
https://www.kmart.com.au/wcsstore/Kmart/pdfs/43243938_Manual…
yeah just saw it! Thanks for posting it here. Glad i bought the charger and it is 100W out of a single port.
USB-C 3.1 to 3.0
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Notice that this item is on clearance even though I believe this is a fairly recent item. Not sure what that says about it, but I am inclined to wait for a new model or alternative.
I have used a few of their standard four USB A outlet chargers before and they have been acceptable, but this one is really pushing the technology much more.
Need big clive for a teardown
Cactus here
I won't get into much, this throttles at 65w+ after prolonged use and gets hot. The ripple isnt great and seems to act up when it starts throttling. It's about as inefficient as you'd expect a non GaN unit to be around 65% to 72% Has basic safety and typical protections, nothing great nothing horrible. It's certainly no heymix as I didn't see egregious safety hazards and things I'd worry about but it's near in terms of quality. If you are after 100W chargers, I'd advise going for GaN units, there's little reason to use anything else nowadays when it'll actually cost you more not to over the life of a charger.
Buy if you absolutely need something from in store and want the certainty of warranty. Otherwise if you can wait and buy from aliexpress, ebay or Amazon it's worth spending a bit more for other options.
With it not selling well I suspect they may have had issues with these, maybe the pricing was too high or too many were returned following issues. It's hard to tell but clearance products without clear reasons for being on clearance don't clear my concerns.
3 cacti out of 5
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Since I'm always asked for suggestions, theres 2 WOTOBE GaN units around this price that are great if you can wait which either are a very tiny laptop style brick or a wall plug if you prefer. Search up the codes on aliexpress and they'll come up.
1005004709128061
1005005481556527I love both of these, otherwise Zyron are a decent aussie brand, similarly Baseus on eBay also have some good brick style units at 100w with 2x usb c 2x usb a with 2 extra wall sockets for other devices so its convenient there.
1005004709128061
I think that style is much better as you aren't limited by the length of the USB cables and you can place it in a spot that's easier to access than wherever the power point is
It's one of my favorite chargers.
They're smaller than they look on the photos, work without any issue and you can change the iec cable for whatever length you want to make it fit your use case perfectly.
That and 1005005268457215 which is probably the best charger money can buy right now if you want an absolute do it all.
The 1005005268457215 looks amazing. The digital display, 4 ports, multi adapter and compact design makes this very impressive.
Cheers for the detailed review! What would you recommend for 60W battery bank
You get diminishing cost savings and returns with lower wattages, better off buying a 100w bank to be honest if you want it to last - even if you don't need the extra wattage right now.
Most of the things I feel comfortable recommending are in the $90-$180 range so if that's in your budget lmk and I'll throw some suggestions.
I don't like suggesting cheaper units (unless they're marked down on sale) since the cost towards lifespan, quality, efficiency, etc are greater than what's saved over the 2-4yrs I expect a bank to last in my opinion..
I've been holding off for a while for my December trip abroad so not in rush :) Budget is under $120 or so
@ashyboy: This is by far the best deal currently for 60W+.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/809235
It's also near to the largest you can take on a plane without informing the airline. (Though that means it's reasonably large and heavy)
Sure, higher end power banks are great, but unless you are doing extended daily charging, they are often overkill.
Cactus ere
Friendly reminder you should not expect these to last too long. They work, and are really good while they work, but are not going to last very long with the flat lipo cells used typically in Chinese banks.
Lipo based banks have extremely high failure rates and have significant degradation with moderate/heavy use in 6-9 months by which point they can't hold more than 50% of the original capacity (which you won't know unless you test and check this as it'll still go up to 100%) and if they're not dead by then, they'll typically die long before 12-18 months.
@spaceflight: Key there is the heavy use. We are talking fully draining and charging it almost every day to see significant capacity loss from wear in less than a year.
For that sort of heavy use, then it is absolutely worth spending more on a power bank that uses battery cell chemistry with higher cycle life.
For typical use, most people don't cycle it every day, so won't notice any particular wear even over many years.
And "flat lipo" (pouch) cells are not inherently good, or bad. For example, they are the same type as used on almost all mobile phones. You can get pouch cells that use higher cycle life chemistry, just like you can get cylindrical cells that use lower cycle life chemistry. It comes down to what chemistry and supplier the manufacturer chooses, and the quality control. The same goes for other battery types.
You just tend to hear about or notice pouch cell failures, because they often swell up, or in the well known case of Samsung, catch fire. But for example, crappy quality 18650 batteries are everywhere (such as no name cordless vacuum cleaners) but since they are mostly LiFePO4, when the battery starts to die a premature death, it's just reduced run time, and not as memorable.
As far as that INIU 65W power bank goes, I certainly would not recommend it for heavy use such as draining it daily. But it's a great deal for normal use, travel etc. And in general, INUI reviews across their products suggest the brand has a decent handle on quality control, and hasn't suffered from high DOA rates, like for example Baseus has. They offer a three year warranty too - though I have no experience trying to claim it.
@ashyboy: I'd suggest something like this
1005005789666332 on aliexpress.
UGREEN also have similar offerings around that price. The other current sale on a 65w bank use flat lipo cells AFAIK (I'm about 80% sure from memory) which I made a writeup regarding failure rates.
Something like the UGREEN or this should last year's.
If you are able to spend $160ish the ZMI No20 is in the top 3 power banks I've tested out of 370+ and is the best overall bang for buck battery bank and also the best money can buy. I've had several for 3yrs and they are still going strong, also access to 10-15 through colleagues and friends that I test every 6m who are still going strong.
What are your recommendations in that range? 😀
Hey cactus! Thanks alot for the detailed response, I appreciate it :)
I have noticed myself the charger running a bit hot and thought about possibly replacing it. I know you might get many of these messages but is this charger a scam for 100w GaN unit?
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I'm unsure as I'm still new to this kind of tech field and I don't know whether or not it may be a scam so if you've got a spare moment I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
Hi there
I have tested that specific unit, it isn't great. Toocki make some great products at times but also some horribly garbage ones.
I don't know how you would classify it as a scam. It works, and it will work. It has some basic safety features but is also missing some stuff. They're not very efficient either so you'll be burning some money.
I don't know if it will blow your devices like we have seen with heymix as I don't have enough data through enough of a sample size.
I would advise however switching to something else if you have this already and have the means to, there is always a chance with cheaper units that WHEN something goes wrong they may take your device out with them. It's something I've unfortunately experienced and the pain of breaking a $800 iPad.. it is nowhere near worth the money saved so I always implore people if it's possible to avoid very cheap units.
Again, just a reminder that a charger is a long term investment. Buy something good, and ideally more than what you need because most of the standards are already set and defined, so a charger today should last you 4+ years.
There's zero reason for a good charger to stop working even 10yrs later, and it's more likely that the charging speed should become insufficient rather than the unit dying, which is common in cheaper units.
Yeah I completely understand where you're coming from. I think you're right, after reading through some of the comments you've posted I'll probably go with a Wotobe GaN charger. Something that should last me a while and hopefully be reliable. It's just tempting with so many different brands to chase out which might be the best at a given price point. But there are so many damn brands out there advertising 100W like essager (1005006020466949) or unitek (1005005465914215) who also have bold claims and good pricing ($35) and as a novice it's hard to know what works well and what isn't reliably safe. But I think I agree 20 dollars saved on a charger may mean damaging hundreds of dollars of electronics. Thx again for the response
Hi @SmoothCactus, thanks for the detailed write up! Is this the Baseus unit you are referring to on eBay? 313865596476. My biggest concern is safety standards as this one is always charging something unattended.
I'm probably leaning towards the 65w model as I'm only planning to use it to tidy up/replace 4 x slow chargers that just do iPads/powerbanks/spare phones etc overnight.
This is a decent price for the charger. I got my 67W charger for like $60 and I like my charger a lot, it does the job and charges my devices at home very quickly.
wow this looks decent. esp, that it's 100w
These are now $19 if you can find in store
Writing on the side: Hot parts! Wait one-half hour after switching off before handling parts.