Creatine Monohydrate or HCL?

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  Jimothy Wongingtons on 12/10/2023 - 19:42

  +1

  recos

  Consistency in Clean eating , high protein and heavy lifting?

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    Undercut 2241 on 12/10/2023 - 19:44

    Diet is pretty clean, not very high in protein though (also looking at whey powder on their site) and I do light exercises weekly/calisthenics

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      Jimothy Wongingtons on 12/10/2023 - 19:52

      +1

      Some would argue calisthenics is all you need

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  MrThing on 12/10/2023 - 20:17

  +7

  pfft, just shoot yourself in the bum with some test and move on

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    Jimothy Wongingtons on 12/10/2023 - 20:53

    End the thread and give this poster some ozbargain gold

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    simplystu on 13/10/2023 - 20:30

    +1

    Really not good advice to give.

    Unless go through proper channels of a DR (including getting regular) blood profiles.

    Reason i say that … when you come off, do need to take other drugs to kickstart natural production again.

    1 of those drugs NEEDS to be stored in a fridge (something which wont happen on black market) … without those drugs when you come off - it can take 3-6 months to properly naturally produce T at previous levels again.

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      MrThing on 13/10/2023 - 20:36

      sounds like someone knows from experience

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        simplystu on 13/10/2023 - 20:58

        Yes speaking from EXP …
        which is also why your advice is not good advice to someone starting out in the gym (even if you only meant it as a joke) - but the OP may take your advice seriously.

        In some ways … IMO I believe it should be how it was back in the 2000's
        Through official channels - VIA a DR +++ regular bloodwork + T levels done before/after a course.

        DR's are legally allowed to prescribe drugs "off-script" … eg. what has happened with Ozempic.

        But in terms of T / etc … in terms of ethics - really clamped down around 2008-2010 (some DR's losing their jobs). As from what I personally saw … state footy players were also openly given prescriptions for T …so with athletes involved it really caused a major media frenzy +++ resulting clampdown.

        These days … think would be hard to find DR that would openly take on new patients for such a thing.
        Not that I've tried … Sadly, I'm long out of the gym game (work too many hours).

        Which in turn has pushed the whole thing to the black market +++ younger gen using it without proper knowledge/implications … and getting themselves into trouble when they come off it (imagine having no sex drive for 3-6 months - "limp d*ck"/etc).

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  dtc on 12/10/2023 - 22:40

  +2

  HCL is better but costs a lot more. Some people get bloating with mono and not with HCL. HCL is around 35c-$1 per serve, monohydrate can be as low as 22c a serve. However this is on sale at the moment https://www.elitesupps.com.au/products/emrald-labs-hcl-2-0?v… and its going to cost pretty much the same as monohydrate when its not on sale, so can give it a go

  Will you notice the difference - probably not, unless creatine mono gives you stomach upsets/bloating. However if you arent doing much resistance exercise or cardo then query if it will be of any benefit at all.

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  Morien on 12/10/2023 - 23:58

  +1

  Lol. Googled HCL and thought you meant Betaine HCL, because that was the first few results.

  I see you meant Creatine HCL.

  There is no point on going anything above Monohydrate. But I guess if they are priced the same it won't hurt.

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  simplystu on 13/10/2023 - 20:23

  +1

  First result in google …

  "creatine monohydrate is affordable and accessible for individuals on a tight budget. On the other hand, creatine HCL has enhanced solubility and stability, making it easier to mix and consume."

  I used to be into the gym between 1998 - 2012.
  Since you are just getting into suppliments - do you really need creatine just yet?

  First and foremost is protein powder (+ good diet) … then maybe throw in some preworkout powders.