I'm looking into getting a used SUV, and I see a few 2015 Tiguans for sale.
They look pretty good for the price, so it's enticing.
Thing is, ReDriven says it's a big no-no.
They say it really depreciates over time.
Can anyone confirm this?
Buying a Used 2015 VW Tiguan?
poisongodmachine on 12/10/2023 - 16:56
Last edited 13/10/2023 - 09:34 by 1 other user
Last edited 13/10/2023 - 09:34 by 1 other user
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Re-driven's list of things that go wrong:
- DSG transmission issues and failures
- Turbo failure and turbo seal issues
- Water pump failures
- EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) faults
- Oil leak issues
- Feeble engine bay plastics
- Manifold and cooling system components are known to fail
- Complete engine failures due to cracked pistons and timing chain tensioner failures
- Very expensive repair costs
- Poor depreciation
that is a pretty comprehensive list of expensive repairs.
Pretty sure you won't find a list that long for the a petrol rav4 of the same year (Toyota seems to have rectified the oil burning issues (in 06-12 rav4s) with the 2AR-FE), or a CX-5, or a CR-V
I can understanding taking the risk on a more uncommon sports car but why bother on a cookie cutter daily driver SUV
Diesel cx5 is an absolute POS.
This would be 100x more reliable than diesel CX5, probably a worse car than craptiva.
Every car that exists have issues, but the only person I know with a diesel CX5 just got their 3rd engine fitted last month due to another blown head gasket, atleast mazda keep replacing them
I mean, if you're a masochist go for it.
I too was once young and naive and bought a used Audi (built by VW).
$8000 in pain later and i was happy to see the back of it.
Yes its brilliant to drive and i loved every minute of it. But everything started to fail and it left a bitter taste in my mouth. Combination of injectors, DPF and headgaskets all failed over the course of 2 months. Combine this with additional costs for servicing and you better have deep pockets.I personally am never buying a euro again and will happily drive a cheap chinese car under warranty than go through the headache of dealing with a eurotrashwagon.
Unless you know it inside out I'd suggest people are selling it due to problems
I remember Merc quote $300 for a thermostat, got it for like $60 in the UK Merc dealdership. If you want to be legal robbery go for it.
Which engine?
Please. It’s a 10 year old car in 14 months time.
Google - vw mechatronics problems.
About $4k to get replaced and your car is undrivable if it fails.
Have fun in your Tiguan.
(profanity) no
Why do you think that re-driven would possibly not know what they are on about and all the ozbargain keyboard warriors would know that old VW is a good deal?
They say it really depreciates over time.
There’s a reason the acronym means Virtually Worthless.
If you are semi handy I would say go for it, everyone loves to shit on euro cars but i've had a number of them and never had any issues if you maintain them well.
I've had 2x mk5 tdi golfs, 1x mk6 tdi golf, 2x mk6 gti golf and recently bought a 2012 tiguan 155 tsi
Most of these I bought from the auctions as run abouts, drive for a few months then sell them. I haven't had to do any water pumps, had any dsg issues etc.Based on some of the comments you read you'd think they'd barely roll out of the auction lane, yes the 7 speed dry clutch golfs are an absolute POS but wet clutch DSG have nowhere near as many issues
The good news about the tiguans is they don't use the crap DQ200 7 speed dry clutch dsg because they are a heavier car, the one I purchased uses the newer DQ500 which is basically a 7 speed wet clutch version of the 6 speed DQ250, it's also used in VAG commercial vehicles.
I would say it's very important to buy one that has had DSG & haldex oil changes, but I wouldn't say they are as bad as a lot of people make out. There are certainly some horror stories out there but there would be many more people who have had a faultless experience
- Yes water pump issues are prevalent, but it's a cost of ownership. Probably works out same cost of ownership as having to replace a timing belt on a subaru/toyota etc. every 100kms
- If the one you are looking at has an EA888 engine apart from the bad 118tsi models it's a proven, reliable engine that has been around nearly 15 years
i've had a number of them and never had any issues
That is why you say they are good. If you had any issues, and experienced the repair costs, then you would be singing a different tune.
Yes they are good cars, but if you plan on keeping them for a while something is inevitably going to break. With all the plastics around the engine bay (intake manifold, coolant shut-off valve, etc…), it is inevitable that there is a failure.
The VW / Audi workshop rate is around $300/hr, so unless you have the skills / time / specialised tooling, then if something breaks, the exorbitant cost for repair just leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Most Aussie mechanics dont like working on them (see @pegaxs).Looking at the resale value (depreciation) should tell you how well they age.
Read my first sentence, I mentioned if you’re somewhat handy they are good. I don’t think anyone is paying $300 an hour for labour, and if they are then they deserve to be! Plenty of good independent euro mechanics around
I get your point re resale, in my mind that’s a positive. OP is getting a newer/safer and potentially more efficient car at an affordable price. Personally I see that as an advantage.
If you are semi handy I would say go for it, everyone loves to shit on euro cars but i've had a number of them and never had any issues if you maintain them well.
Anyone who is remotely handy would not be asking this question, and especially not on a bargain forum. They’d be researching my properly and asking car specific forums.
I've had 2x mk5 tdi golfs, 1x mk6 tdi golf, 2x mk6 gti golf and recently bought a 2012 tiguan 155 tsi Most of these I bought from the auctions as run abouts, drive for a few months then sell them. I haven't had to do any water pumps, had any dsg issues etc.
Drive for a few months? That’s not a great recommendation. You haven’t held them long enough to prove longevity. It’s not hard for a mechanic to patch something up and have it let a few months instead of fixing it properly. You’re passing potential problems to the next owner.
never had any issues if you maintain them well
Yup.
I bought an Euro that was 9 months old and the previous owners took massive depreciation. I've had it for 19 years. It only has 80k/km on it. I know everything inside out. Doesn't stop the Euro specialist charging me $600 each service ($1k for major). Toyota maybe $300 and $600.
Only fix was the radiator thermostat
Yes water pump issues are prevalent, but it's a cost of ownership
Sorta why peeps are suggesting not to own them.
the general rule is if you cannot afford a brand new euro car then don't buy a second hand, the maintenance will cost you the same in few years time.
This is a good rule
Don't. That's all.
Sure, get one. Not like anyone else has problems with old, used, out of warranty Euro shit boxes :D