Heartsine Pad500p Defibrillator $1880 (Was $1980) Delivered @ DDI Safety

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Employeecheapjack on 04/10/2023 - 08:40 ddisafety.com.au (76 clicks)
Last edited 04/10/2023 - 09:36 by 1 other user

For this weeks defib of the week sale we've reduced the Heartsine Pad500p Defibrillator $1880 (was $1980).

Edit: Forgot to mention we have it as a bundle as well!
https://ddisafety.com.au/product/heartsine-pad500p-semi-auto…

Why consider this defibrillator? It is one of the most affordable defibrillators with a CPR reader. One study showed that after 1 minute of CPR people stop pushing hard enough, but they don't realise they are fatigued until 5 minutes in. This defibrillator senses your CPR and will tell you when to push harder.

For the inevitable comments on the "new revolutionary" CELL-AED defibrillators, here's a few things to consider.

Over time they can be more expensive. Here's an estimated cost comparison over 8 years of CELL-AED versus a name brand HEARTSINE 360P Defibrillator.

Heartsine 360p with 8 year warranty
Initial Cost: $1480
Maintenance Cost: $300 for replacement batteries and pads after 4 year shelf life.
If used on a verified cardiac event pad's replaced free under pad-pak program.
Total Cost 8 years: $1780

Cell AED. 2 Year Fixed Lifespan
Initial Cost: $499
Replacement every 2 years: $499 each time
Cost over 8 years: $1996

Cell AED with Subscription
Initial Cost: $359 for device plus first year subscription $198
Yearly Subscription: $198
Estimated cost over 8 years $1943.

So over a similiar period it can be more expensive to get a Cell AED which has less energy output and slower charging times. I'm all for Aussie brands and I think it's great they want to make defibrillators more accessible, I just think it's not the silver bullet it's made out to be.

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11 Oct 2023

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bemybubble on 04/10/2023 - 08:43

Well done on these deals mate - I personally think these are important.

Curious to know if you have deals with cases and signage?
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 08:52
  
  +1
  
  Ooh i forgot to mention:
  We have it as a bundle. The standard bundle is reduced to $1948 at the moment and comes with wall cabinet, signage and prep kit.
  
  https://ddisafety.com.au/product/heartsine-pad500p-semi-auto…
Slo20 on 04/10/2023 - 08:45

+1

$1865 delivered elsewhere
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 08:53
  
  +1
  
  Darn they pipped us!
  I just checked, our bundle is cheaper than theres. By $2, and it includes an actual sign and not a sticker!
  $1948 with bundle
UsernameChecksIn on 04/10/2023 - 08:51

If used on a verified cardiac event pads replaced free under pad-pak program.

Incentivised use 🤔
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 08:55
  
  They are amping up the value.,
- Sleepycat3 on 04/10/2023 - 08:57
  
  You don't need it til you need it. But dont worry, you wont have to/be able to complain about it if it doesnt do its job anyway.
  - Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 09:38
    
    Time to claim that warranty :-(
- Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 09:52
  
  If you're in Victoria, register the device with Ambulance Victoria, they'll service the unit, replace the pads/battery pack and return it within 72hours if it's ever used. They'll do this for any branded AED
  - bemybubble on 04/10/2023 - 12:36
    
    No they don't
    
    Will Ambulance Victoria maintain my AED?
    Ongoing maintenance and the replacement of expired consumables such as defibrillation pads are the responsibility of the AED owner – unless your device is used in a public emergency and then
    Ambulance Victoria replace then defibrillation pads for you.
    - Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 17:56
      
      Hey bemybubble I'm not sure of what troydon has mentioned but what you copied did say "unless your device is used in a public emergency" so perhaps if it's used in a real emergency it will get replaced. Regular maintenance though of course would be up to the owner
jv on 04/10/2023 - 09:10

-8

Too expensive, should be ¼ of that price…
- Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 09:55
  
  +3
  
  Perhaps you should write to your local member and petition them to subsidise the costs of these devices? Potentially a better use of your time instead of writing unhelpful comments?
  - jv on 04/10/2023 - 09:58
    
    -3
    
    Perhaps you should write to your local member
    
    Or just get a cheaper one.
    - Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 10:01
      
      If you think investing in budget life saving equipment is worthwhile, go for it but there's a reason why most emergency services, hospitals and medical services don't spend money on cheap stuff
      - jv on 04/10/2023 - 10:09
        
        -2
        
        @Troymdon:
        
        but there's a reason why most emergency services, hospitals and medical services don't spend money on cheap stuff
        
        So this one is used by "most emergency services, hospitals and medical services" ????
        
        Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 10:57
        
        @jv: It's a very popular model used by a lot of medical services, most hospital & ambulance use manual defibrillators. This particular brand however is managed by a company called Stryker - who supply hospitals with beds, surgical and monitoring equipment.
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 10:58
        
        -1
        
        @Troymdon:
        
        It's a very popular model used by a lot of medical services
        
        Proof ?
        
        Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 11:01
        
        +1
        
        @jv: I'm sure you can "do your own research."
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 11:06
        
        -2
        
        @Troymdon:
        
        I'm sure you can "do your own research."
        
        A bit pointless to do that when something isn't really true…
        
        Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 12:06
        
        +1
        
        @jv: proof?
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 12:11
        
        @Troymdon:
        
        proof?
        
        You are the one making stuff up, there is no proof of your claim.
        
        bemybubble on 04/10/2023 - 13:15
        
        +1
        
        @jv:
        
        Too expensive, should be ¼ of that price…
        
        That was the claim - why should it be a quarter of that price. And if there is one - proof?
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 13:16
        
        @bemybubble:
        
        why should it be a quarter of that price.
        
        So more people can buy them
        
        And if there is one - proof?
        
        https://cellaed.io/au/products/cellaed-purchase-au
        
        bemybubble on 04/10/2023 - 13:25
        
        @jv: Ahhh now we're debating over semantics…
        
        Cell AED. 2 Year Fixed Lifespan
        Initial Cost: $499
        Replacement every 2 years: $499 each time
        Cost over 8 years: $1996
        
        Cell AED with Subscription
        Initial Cost: $359 for device plus first year subscription $198
        Yearly Subscription: $198
        Estimated cost over 8 years $1943.
        
        So one would agree that it should cost a quarter needs to be compared to what you are buying. Which your comparing a 2 year disposable device to this item which has consumables.
        
        Otherwise it's like me comparing an apple to a pineapple - just because they have the word apple doesn't mean your comparing the same thing…
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 13:28
        
        @bemybubble:
        
        disposable device
        
        They are all disposable…
        
        Also, you can get it for $198 per year, so a much more affordable option for the majority of people….
        
        jv on 04/10/2023 - 13:29
        
        @bemybubble:
        
        just because they have the word apple
        
        they don't
- kev98 on 04/10/2023 - 10:00
  
  +1
  
  We would need an industrial defib to bring some life into jv
  - Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 10:10
    
    +9
    
    You need a heart for defibrillators to work…..,
unco on 04/10/2023 - 09:14

Hi OP I notice the replacement pads and battery are one combined unit which is essentially buying two batteries if you wanted to have a set of adult and childrens pads.

This makes keeping a set of adult and childrens pads more expensive than a unit which has the adult/children pads separate from the battery pack.

What would be your recommendation for a unit with more economical maintenance if servicing a household with adults and children?
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 09:38
  
  Thanks for the message Unco,
  
  Child/infant specific options are designed for children under 8yo or 25kgs. So first question would be, how long/how many kids will be under that age and for how long?
  
  If they are needed a common option is the Lifepak CR2 models. They have a child mode. Just press a button and the overall energy output is reduced to a child friendly amount.
  
  Another option is a Zoll AED plus which uses standardised type 123 batteries and has optional child pads. They come on sale every couple of months.
  
  The other thing to consider is risk. Children/infants make up a very small percentage of cardiac arrest victims so if there is no existing health conditions or family history after a risk assessment some people choose to just purchase adult pads. If needed they will just use adult pads on a child to give them a shock.
  
  And just something to keep in mind if you have been looking at CELL-AED is when used on infants/ young child After delivering a shock, the user must remove the top pad and place it safely on the ground which can cause delays/interrupt CPR.
  - unco on 04/10/2023 - 11:01
    
    Thanks for the reply & also to Troymdon.
    
    Just had my first so it will be at least 8 years. But I guess given the packs last 4 years it will still work out better off than buying the Lifepak CR2 given the higher initial cost.
    
    Have completed CPR and first aid courses to be the first aid officer for work so thought having something like this at home wouldn't be the worst thing I could spend on for peace of mind, plus registering it to help others in the community would be a bonus.
    
    Might look in to the 350/360p if that comes up in a deal in future, thanks!
    - Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 17:57
      
      Too easy! We will be doing a bundle discount in the future so will post when it's on
- Troymdon on 04/10/2023 - 09:51
  
  On the HeartSine models - worth noting the costs of pads and batteries are much cheaper than others, especially since both last for 4 years and come in one handy pack.
  - Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 10:11
    
    -1
    
    Yeah spot on, for the 350p and 360p the low cost of entries and the low cost of combined battery and pad can mean just going for both is pretty good value
ziva on 04/10/2023 - 13:05

Is there one that can work without anyone involved?
As in I'm often alone on the property and if anything were to happen would I be able to just stick this on me and hope for the best..
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 14:31
  
  Realistically if you had a cardiac arrest the emergency is sudden and theirs no time to apply the pads and turn the device on. For sure great though if others on property or in rural or regional areas.https://ddisafety.com.au/game-changers-aeds-vs-waiting-for-an-ambulance/
xdigger on 04/10/2023 - 13:17

Back in the days we start a car and run leads to it for this sort of things
- Employeecheapjack @ DDI Safety on 04/10/2023 - 14:31
  
  a car? You were lucky. My family would have to pedal a bicycle to generate enough electricity!

This was posted 1 year 2 months 18 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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