I Bought a Pair of "Saucony Triumph 20" Running Shoes from AliExpress for ~US$60 Delivered, and Here's My Review after 50km

tl;dr — I bought a pair of "Saucony Triumph 20" from a store on AliExpress. It was delivered from China in 10 days. It felt like a well-made product and runs great, however I can never be certain that it's a genuine Saucony.

I am a middle-age middle-of-the-pack hobby jogger that have been trying to run 2,000-3,000km a year, and due to the mileage I run, I usually use up 3-4 pairs of running shoes each year. I've posted a few running shoes related deals and have been on the lookout of cheap shoes to make my hobby more affordable (despite running is probably one of the cheapest sports already). One recent deal that caught my attention was this Hoka Clifton 8 for $79.99 from Kogan (getting older, needing more cushioning shoes) but unfortunately missed out.

However while researching for running related gears on AliExpress, I found that some stores are selling "Hoka Clifton 8" for around the same price or cheaper delivered! Upon putting in some shoe brand names in the search (Altra, Brooks, Hoka, Saucony, etc) and that really opened a can of worms. "But it's on AliExpress so they gotta to be fake, right?!" I too felt sceptical when I saw these products at discounted price. However for the sake of experiment I decided to order a pair from AliExpress, to see how well these cheap and potentially fake running shoes perform.

Order & Delivery

Since I was looking for a plush max cushion shoes, I ended up ordering a pair of black "Saucony Triumph 20" from this dodgy-sounding store "Aucony Sports Store" for around US$60 delivered. Note that there are multiple AliExpress stores that sell "Saucony Triumph 20" (some called Saucony Victory 20 due to direct translation from its Chinese model name), and most are around the same price. You can also find Triumph 19 for a little bit cheaper although you won't be able to find the latest Triumph 21 on AliExpress (yet). Saucony Triumph 19/20 were made in China and Triumph 21 are made in Vietnam — so a made-in-China Triumph 21 is most likely fake anyway.

  • Ordered 14 August
  • Delivered 23 August (AliExpress Standard Shipping → AusPost)

Not bad, took less time from China to Sydney than me sending a hoodie from Sydney to Perth.

Initial Impression

I had bought 2 pairs of Saucony previously (Freedom & Guide 15) from Running Warehouse Australia, and this "Triumph 20" from AliExpress also came in a genuine looking box similar to what I had before. Here's the sticker on the box:

Manufactured on 15/04/2023
By Xiamen Saucony Brand Operation Ltd
RRP: 1399 RMB (~A$300)

The RRP in China does appear to be even more outrageous than the RRP here for Saucony Triumph 20. Xiamen Saucony Brand Operation Ltd turned out to be the actual distributor of Saucony products in China since 2019, and currently is a joint venture between Wolverine Worldwide (Saucony's parent company) and Xtep (Hong Kong based sports brand that has its own line of running shoes).

Well, that's just the packaging. The shoes itself looks fine. It's weights about the same as my Saucony Guide 15, despite having thicker midsole & way more padding around the ankle. Many fake/replicas are much heavier though, due to material used. The build quality matches up to what I expect from a Saucony. I usually wear US10.5 for other brands and this pair from AliExpress is also true to size & fits well.

Review

There are heaps of reviews on Saucony Triumph 20 on the Internet (e.g. Road Trial Run, RunRepeat, Solereview etc) so this won't be yet-another-review. I took the shoes out for a few runs from 10-15km, mostly easy 6min/km pace mixed with 4:30min/km fartlek. After ~50km I'll have to say that it's probably one of my favourite pair in my rotation right now. I've not run in a max-cushion shoes before but that 37mm of "Pwrrun+" E-TPU foam certainly feels sweet — pretty much matches the reviews I've read.

Genuine or Fake?

So, is this a genuine pair of "Saucony Triumph 20"? Since it's from AliExpress I can never be sure (so I'll keep it in inverted commas). However it runs great therefore to me, it's still a bargain. It felt like other Saucony's that I had before, and Pwrrun+ foam feels like what the reviews have described it. So I won't discount the chance that it might actually be a genuine Saucony product made by their factories in China. I've only had 50km on this pair so far. Maybe I'll change my mind if it falls apart at less than 500km.

Do note that it's my own experience with this specific model from this specific shop on AliExpress. It does not mean you'll get the same experience from other branded running shoes on AliExpress. YMMV.

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Comments

  • Usually if it’s fake, don’t the pictures normally have no branding on it??

    • +1

      Usually it would have misspelt branding. For example this "Hokz" running shoes that looks like a Clifton 9. AliExpress is making these harder to find though.

  • +2

    Scotty you legend, taking one for the team. Enjoy your Auconys!

  • +6

    Everyone will be wearing this shoe at the next OZB meet.

  • +2

    Irony the fake shoes usually last longer due to non environmental friendly glue.

  • +1

    In terms of Aliexpress delivery, I've been really impressed with their fast/combined/choice shipping times. Ive had an order delivered in 7 days, an Amazon Prime item from over East was delivered the same day but I ordered it the day before AE. Funny how shipping from halfway across the world is faster than shipping across Australia…

  • Ozboss

  • Yeah, if anyone hasn't bought reps or seen them lately, they are crazy now. There are 1:1 reps. Only giveaways are stitching differences or using a blacklight to find defects (things like extra pin holes vs real using machines. Last time I saw rep sneakers was around 2008. There would be bad colouring and usually wouldn't be shaped right. Much harder now.

    • Now you need black light to check if there’s a stamp on it

      In the case of some Nike Jordan’s, quality is better with the reps than on retail. Nike QC has gone to crap over the last few years

      • They moved their manufacturing out of China to factories that could offer lower costs (Indonesia etc). My guess is the old factories were sitting there with the molds and know how of how to make the shoes.

  • Thanks for the review mate and taking the risk for us. You doing the Sydney marathon in a couple weeks?

    • +3

      No unfortunately. Still can't bring myself to pay to run a course…

      • Haha fair enough! It is strange in a way to pay for something that you can do anytime.

        Events are a lot of fun though, to be surrounded by so many other super keen runners gives off an electric vibe. You also get to run unimpeded with the roads closed etc. You could try a cheaper one sometime? Some of the smaller trail events are cheap and have a really great sense of community.

        • +1

          Yeah I can fully understand why some people would pay to run in a race, because ultimately they are paying for an experience. A friend of mine ran City2Surf for the first time last month and he really enjoyed it — something a cheapskate runner like me would not appreciate. For now the only "race" I'll partake would be Parkruns because they are… free :)

  • fakes are soo good now by looks. performance, quality, and longevity will expose itself overtime. i tried this before like you, and the copy was sooooo good. until after a few months when they were separating and falling apart. i know if i purchased it from a real store, i would have my receipt and can replace them. that in itself is worth paying extra for a piece of mind. now i have fakes that i can't and wouldn't want to return to get the exact same fake again. so now i just stick to real stores here, even though it cost more. if i want to save money, i will wait for a sale or buy last years, or 2-3 years ago old stock to save money.

    • -1

      Buying from AliExpress is always going to be a gamble, but at the same time there's a possibility that is actually genuine. I would like to believe that the pair I bought is actually a genuine Saucony manufactured in China (looks real, rides like the real thing), but I have to remain a sceptic because it's from AliExpress.

  • +1

    The quality of fakes nowadays is insane across the board.

    There are AAA fakes of Rolexes where the only way to tell the difference is to open up the movement and look at some of the internals or look at it via 50x magnification.

    Makes you wonder why things cost as much as they do :)

    • Most brands and businesses come to the conclusion that chasing upmarket is usually the most profitable course of action. Cheaper brands start cheap, then if they establish themselves make the same move.

      Almost nothing with high prices costs anywhere near that to make - you just make more money selling 1/5 as many things for 10x the profit margin.

  • +1

    Thanks for the review, I wish I could buy shoes (or clothes) online, but I can't trust them to fit.

  • Any updates on the shoe?

    • I have only put ~250km on it so far as I have other shoes in rotation. Foam still feels there same — soft eTPU that's kind of bouncy.

      My wife actually managed to buy another pair of Triumph 20, but from Taobao this time so it's just ~A$50 + postage (together with other junks that she & my daughters bought from Taobao, took almost 2 months to arrive). Same official looking Saucony box from Xiamen, manufactured in Jan 2023 according to the label inside the tongue, and U suspect the one from Taobao is domestic market only as it has CN sizing, whereas the one I got from AliExpress doesn't.

  • Sorry to come to the party late - but i am looking at the same but for Triumph 21 - yes they have them now at the same price range. Having done lots of browsing I am learning towards a third option - that these are factory seconds/made with remaining parts.

    Now that there are some real photos of Triumph 20s uploaded by pioneers that dared to put the money on the line. There are a handful of reviews with same photo, besides those of the ones that looks like unique they look pretty legit. I was able to see from these photos small superficial differences like

    1. Print of '20' near the ankle. Most of them were a little too low, so the bottom line of '2' is pretty much all cut off from that piece of suede. This could have mean it is rejected in QA.
    2. Some seems to have badly 'factory crushed' foam all around - eg as if the piece before assembly fell on the factory floor, crushed, but picked up and due to the manufacturing line - went thru the rest of the process anyway. IMO a counterfeit would NOT knowingly make defective unit with a defective part - they're interested in best presentation of the product.
    3. Some had signs of badly applied glue - i know this is a sign of items being counterfeit, but it could just as well be a reason for QA to reject it off the assembly line.

    Other reasons i feel it is factory seconds
    4. They have a pretty large range of colours and lots of sizes, of only this specific model. yes again i know this could make it a counterfeit. but if a sweatshop can make a fake shoe - there are many other brands/models that could be cheaper to make and with high margin - why not make and sell those!? They have Triumph 19, 20, and now 21s, makes me think this is one factory that has the contract to make Triumphs officially. BTW i've yet to find info on where 21s are/should be made in.

    1. A couple of shops unashamedly use the Saucony branding / from store name, product photos, they don't even hide the logo i'm thinking because the store owners feel they have a right to sell them mixed with genuine, QA passed units.

    It seems like the following are available at around the $75 AUD mark
    Hoka Carbon X3, Clifton 8 Clifton 9
    Saucony Triumph 19, 20, 21
    Brooks Glycerine 20, 21 is $100

    I'm trying to get some real photos of actual item off the sellers to further determine if these are legit - Will return to update.

    • Thanks for the analysis. Triumph 21 is supposed to be made in Vietnam though, like the current Ride/Guide, so it would be weird if they are coming from a Chinese factory.

      • Yeah, I have yet to find photo of clear shoe tag. For now i have asked for photo of actual item of

        1. The shoe label under tongue, vietname, qr code
        2. Underside of sole insert, manf stamp
        3. Inside of shoe with insert removed (apparently fakes don't stitch base to body
        4. Thinking of asking for shoe on scale, apparently imitations often use cheap heavier foam

        They are not very responsive despite my messages in both English and Chinese. Can't imagine them being too thrilled at someone analysing the shoes prior to a purchase.

        AliExpress pretty much refund me anytime I have issue with order so I think I might chance it.

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