Lexar NS100 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD $103.19, 2 for $181.61 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

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Low price on this 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD and if you add 2 to the cart the price drops even further at checkout. While this SSD is DRAMless it's still more than fine for use as game storage given it's faster than a traditional HDD. Especially if you're out of M.2 NVMe slots like me :(

It's using Micron TLC flash with a sequential read up to 550MB/s, sequential write up to 510MB/s, 1000TBW endurance and 3 year warranty. Not PS5 compatible.

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  Misha Bakunin on 31/08/2023 - 23:28

  Dramless damn. My desktop setup needs a dram SSD drive. If anyone knows any deals on dram SSDs let me know please :)

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    tonyjzx on 31/08/2023 - 23:55

    +3

    yeah these are only good for bulk storage

    i really think there's just not a great deal of dram sata 2.5 ssds out there

    crucial mx500 is about the only one that comes to mind?

    the BX is storage trash

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      Misha Bakunin on 01/09/2023 - 00:08

      Yeah I have an mx OS drive already, very good, very fast considering.. But mine is only 256 gig. I wonder how much a 1 tb drive mx or equivalent is now, maybe time for an upgrade…

      And yes BX model is trash, agreed.

      Alas my motherbord is like one year away from supporting nvme hence why I need a dram SSD drive for my desktop…

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  Look Up on 01/09/2023 - 01:02

  +8

  This NS100 does not use Micron flash - those were the early 256/512GB drives from 2018 when Micron/Crucial still owned Lexar

  This drive uses the "Lexar DM918" controller, otherwise known as the POS Maxio that also powers the various Lexar NM NVMe drives

  The NAND is also re-branded Lexar which means bottom of the barrel YMTC TLC rejects

  If you are shopping in this price range, skip this and buy the Team Vulcan Z with Silicon Motion controller, Hynix TLC and 1600TBW endurance

  If you want the golden combination of a good controller, DRAM and TLC, you need to step up to the 870 EVO

  And forget the MX500 as well - it is also on the shit list with the 2TB model now only having 700TBW endurance due to Crucial's stealth QLC shrinkflation

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    Clear on 01/09/2023 - 06:56

    Source? I went looking before posting and didn't find any mention of what the 2TB using rebranded flash.

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      vid_ghost on 01/09/2023 - 07:14

      -1

      https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rumour-that-mx500…

      2TB and 4TB now usibg QLC… 1TB and under are still TLC

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        Clear on 01/09/2023 - 07:17

        -2

        That's not the Lexar 😜 My question was towards the claims about the Lexar.

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          Clear on 01/09/2023 - 09:44

          @Clear: Ok neggers seems you're in need of a visit to Specsavers. Eye tests are bulk billed.

          Lexar NS100 2TB 2.5" SATA SSD $103.19, 2 for $181.61 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

          This is the title.

          This NS100 does not use Micron flash - those were the early 256/512GB drives from 2018 when Micron/Crucial still owned Lexar

          This drive uses the "Lexar DM918" controller, otherwise known as the POS Maxio that also powers the various Lexar NM NVMe drives

          The NAND is also re-branded Lexar which means bottom of the barrel YMTC TLC rejects

          And this is what ChatGPT has said. So tell me neggers, how does an article about Crucial NAND swapping relate to the source of what Lexar are using?

          Taking into account I've been talking about Crucial component swapping since last year and even this year so you can't say I don't know about it.

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      netsurfer on 01/09/2023 - 08:33

      +2

      ChatGPT generally don't reply, but when I make up or assume stuff on his behalf, he tends to prove me wrong so he might reply.

      Lexar NS100 256GB SSD Sata LNS100-256RBNA Data Recovery

      That article shows Maxio MAS0902 + YMTC NAND combination. I am still quite interested to know the source showing it is the inferior grade one, but even if it is not, it won't be the latest gen YMTC NAND anyway.

      MX500, the 2TB QLC, while I agree it is risky, one of the OZBers insisted there is insufficient proof. However, given the current market, it's better to know and not assume you will get the TLC version.

      Team Vulcan Z, honestly, it is brave to vouch for that SSD being TLC. So many SSD makers swapped components in 2023.

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        Clear on 01/09/2023 - 08:38

        ChatGPT generally don't reply, but when I make up or assume stuff on his behalf, he tends to prove me wrong so he might reply.

        I agree. Too many assumptions and feelings get thrown around by some instead of facts.

        Given the price and brand of this I wouldn't expect top of the range controllers and flash. But 2x 2TB for $180 is most certainly a bargain.

        Team Vulcan Z, honestly, it is brave to vouch for that SSD being TLC. So many SSD makers swapped components in 2023.

        Agreed. Team are known for swapping TLC with QLC.

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          netsurfer on 01/09/2023 - 08:59

          @Clear: I would "assume" Maxio + YMTC combination when deciding whether to buy Lexar NS100.

          Team Vulcan Z, even if you somehow get the 2022 model (unlikely), it uses a very aggressive SLC cache so once depleted, the write is ~150MB/s (due to the need to write the data written in SLC mode back to TLC while still write new data to the SSD). The main concern is still making the assumption that Team somehow had not followed Silicon Power, PNY and Kingston in swapping NAND is unsafe.

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            Clear on 01/09/2023 - 09:57

            @netsurfer: That would be my next question. Let's assume it's using Maxio and YMTC, are we going to experience a slow down of ~150MB/s when the pSLC cache is exhausted. If ChatGPT found a review somewhere with all of this that would be amazing to know.

            As you know I'm a sucker for cheap storage.

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              qwijibo on 01/09/2023 - 10:50

              +2

              @Clear: I think if anyone is using these cheap SSDs for heavy write workloads, they've chosen wrong.

              For disposable/replaceable data that is seldom-write, read-many (e.g. games drive), or generally non-performance-critical work, they're ok (that's how I use them).

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                netsurfer on 01/09/2023 - 12:54

                @qwijibo: On the other hand, it is important to know there are multiple batches and some info on the Web is no longer applicable to this SSD (since Micron sold Lexar). Knowing it is basically a lottery on what you will get (at least of NAND) and the controller had been tested with cost effective NAND and inferior grade ones is still good to know. It helps you set your expectation right and evaluate this deal properly.

                However, there was a bit of double standard as Team Vulcan Z has weaknesses too so it isn't a good idea to hype it up. At that price, it is a bit fishy too.

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              netsurfer on 01/09/2023 - 12:46

              +2

              @Clear: The main issue with cheap SSDs now is component swap is in full force. That Maxio controller, based on the specs and info released by Maxio, is known to work with all sorts of NANDs, TLC and QLC. SpecTek (inferior grade Micron), Toshiba, Intel QLC, SK Hynix, YMTC.

              Honestly, it is pure lottery which NAND you will get and it could have a very aggressive SLC cache, which means you will get a subpar experience once the SLC cache is depleted. It could be down to 100MB/s. Knowing the heavy lottery, I prefer to give you a lower figure.

              Most people won't be able to tell if all they do is run CrystalDiskMark. However, it is somewhat relative because most of us still have HDDs so we still have storage devices which write at ~100MB/s and they are used to store large amount of data. Subpar latency (compared to decent SSDs) isn't very important to most people eyeing for these. It comes down to whether it is worthwhile to save $20. I guess if you buy two, you technically save more.

              The sad reality is that the price drop of SSDs in 2023 is not just a simple price drop. A lot of SSD makers are swapping the components inside for cheaper ones. That also means a lot of the reviews are obsolete.

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      Clear on 02/09/2023 - 10:17

      As expected no source. Neg votes shouldn't be allowed without them.

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    Bappy on 01/09/2023 - 07:51

    I just bought the 2TB MX500 - is there a way to confirm if I have got QLC or TLC?
    BTW - I saw few reddit posts and claims are its not confirmed that MX500 has definite QLC

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      Clear on 01/09/2023 - 07:59

      +1

      http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/

      Assuming it's using a Silicon Motion controller download and run "SMI flash id (PATA,SATA,CF,SD)". The command window will prompt you to select the SSD and will output the flash used among other information.

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    ocular on 01/09/2023 - 23:01

    Great to hear from someone who sounds as though they know what they are talking about Dram,TLC and QLC stuff. Have about 30 desktops I have converted to SSD in the last 4 yrs. Different brands depending on what seemed an OK price at the time. The only one failure I have had is an EVO 870SSD. Found it- have dymoed across it Desk3 200 bad sectors win 7 32b Dell 9020, details are Model MZ-ZZE500 2020.12 V-NAND SSD
    Have things improved since then? or was this just bad luck? Where is the 970 Evo placed? Thanks

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  kml22 on 01/09/2023 - 10:42

  Thanks OP, got 2 for $181.

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  qwijibo on 01/09/2023 - 12:59

  +3

  I did some quick benchmarks under linux:

  fio args: —numjobs=1 —filesize=32G -time_based —runtime=120s —ramp_time=2s —ioengine=libaio —direct=1 —verify=0 —bs=1M —iodepth=64 —group_reporting=1 —iodepth_batch_submit=64 —iodepth_batch_complete_max=64

  sequential read: bw=509MiB/s (534MB/s), 509MiB/s-509MiB/s (534MB/s-534MB/s)
  random read: bw=500MiB/s (524MB/s), 500MiB/s-500MiB/s (524MB/s-524MB/s)
  sequential write: bw=137MiB/s (144MB/s), 137MiB/s-137MiB/s (144MB/s-144MB/s)
  random write: bw=121MiB/s (127MB/s), 121MiB/s-121MiB/s (127MB/s-127MB/s)

  So write performance is terrible, but read is not bad - acceptable for a games drive.

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    Clear on 01/09/2023 - 13:07

    You have this exact one? Are you able to confirm the NAND flash and controller?

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      qwijibo on 01/09/2023 - 13:13

      Yeh, its the same drive - bought from amazon a month ago.

      Model Number: Lexar SSD NS100 2TB
      Firmware Revision: SN11035
      Transport: Serial, ATA8-AST, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0

      Unfortunately, the drive is in use in a linux machine, so I can't yank it out and put it in a windows machine to run any of those tools to identify it.

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        netsurfer on 01/09/2023 - 15:36

        Does

        lshw -class disk -class storage

        show anything useful? I doubt it will show the controller type or the NAND type.

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  Turd on 02/09/2023 - 02:32

  +1

  Comming up now as $160.97 for me!!!

  10% off + 12% off for two

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    Motozine on 02/09/2023 - 08:06

    Shows 181.61 for me

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      Turd on 02/09/2023 - 08:12

      Still there for me….

      https://imgur.com/a/aBKt6Qc

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        Azif on 02/09/2023 - 09:34

        So cheap but what to do with 4tb of sata…

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          Turd on 02/09/2023 - 09:35

          @Azif: Put linux isos on them

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        Motozine on 02/09/2023 - 09:46

        Yeah, it was the same except the total came down to 181-ish…
        Only one left in shock now

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  abytheia on 05/09/2023 - 01:09

  Is it still up?

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    Clear on 05/09/2023 - 01:21

    Looks to be sold out.

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      MonkeyKing on 16/09/2023 - 21:26

      Just bought 2 for $176.63 with Prime

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  AssociatedChris Lexar ANZ @ Lexar on 13/09/2023 - 18:27

  Aiya!