Facebook Marketplace Scammers - Reverse Scam

Lots of PayID scammers on Facebook Marketplace these days. Anyone have any tips to give them some of their own medicine?

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  • +9

    Bikies

  • +3

    Probably not worth it - they probaby do it at such a large scale (or at a cottage industry level) that they don't really care if the scam fails or not.

    They could use their bot army to make your facebook life hell.

    • get a spare sim, burner email and create a new facebook account, assuming zucks doesn't require 10,000 points of id and a sample of your milky dna

  • +4

    Facebook Marketplace/ Scamtree : Cash Only

  • +5

    'Here is my PayId, I upgraded it to a business account. If you want, send me another $50 and I'll have yours upgraded too'

  • +12

    waste their time by leading them on

    • +2

      Yeah I put money into that new account, hasn't it came through yet?

    • +8

      That's also wasting your own time.

    • If everybody did this it would shut them down. If everybody engaged them just for a few minutes we could cause them some pain and protect the vulnerable. Every time I keep them as long as I can.
      Also they seem to need a viable bank account for this scam. So you can at least get the bank detail and advise the bank. Prob some persons account has been hacked.

    • +1

      I did this recently. Was quite satisfying.

  • +2

    Simple, just don't use FB Marketplace

    • +4

      The Trading Post instead?

      • +7

        Best place to get your PS2 Chipped

  • +3

    Anyone have any tips to give them some of their own medicine?

    Just report them.
    Other than that all you can really do is lead them on and make them think they're going to get a payday thus taking their attention away from scamming others.
    Any other attempt to get back at them will just result in them leaving the conversation and blocking you.

    • +1

      Reporting them does nothing. I've never been able to successfully get a scammer's account removed from Marketplace or Gumtree.
      The platforms simply don't care

  • steal their identity & send them sex toys from their amazon account

  • +13

    The best way to reverse scam is to stop being an idiot and falling for the scams. If everyone stopped falling for them then the scams would stop.

    • there are a lot of older, and fragile of mind people who fall for this, maybe eugenics mixed with Logan's Run ???

  • +3

    Send them to a fake address… that's about all you can do

    • +2

      Or to the real address of a person you dislike…

    • Do the payid scammers actually turn up to pick up the item? I assumed the scam was all online.

  • +1

    Be smarter? cash in hand? No deposits?

    Not a hard concept.

  • +3

    Few entertaining YouTube clips about scamming the scammers. I recall one where they delivered packages that make sirens, foul smells that last for days / weeks

    Maybe ull need to make yourself one of those for the scammers to pick up.

    For eg
    https://youtu.be/iWeu2dxHRDg

    • +1

      no, that was about porch pirates…nothing to do with scammers.

  • +2

    If you somehow know they are scammers from the start, give them a fake address to collect the goods from and waste their time.

    • +1

      Nobody actually comes they’re all overseas and just want to scam money then don’t post anything. Facebook could fix this overnight by requiring PayPal type of payment for any posted items or cash for in person.

  • +2

    What is the process to reverse a PayID or Osko payment (once it's gone through)? I thought it was not possible without consent of the receiving party.

    • +7

      For a legitimate PayID or Osko payment, I don't think you can.
      These scams are based on fooling people through social engineering.
      Creating fake receipts, apps, etc… that look like the real thing.

    • They send fake emails that saying amount is too low to activate an account, fake screenshots that they have paid and then pressure to refund money that is in transit. Most people would tell them to get fk'd to be honest. They are really dependent on finding vulnerable people.

    • The usual scam these days isn't specifically PayID, just that it's the most recent thing and I guess a lot of people weren't familiar with it so they were having better success rates.

      It's pretty much the same as the old Paypal one, no money is ever sent, just fake screenshots. Except instead of being on an oil rig, sending extra money to cover courier costs that you need to forward on, it's money sent to your PayID that can't be released until you "upgrade to a business account" whatever that means, which I assume involves you sending money somewhere.

      To answer your question though, yeh I don't think its that simple to just reverse the transaction. Anyway, I have a separate account that I only use for receiving MP PayID transactions, and money is transferred to another bank straight away.

      It's a shame though because now many people won't even consider PayID because they instantly think it's a scam.

  • Seems to be mostly with undervalued phones.
    deal too good to be true…so it probably isnt!

    They say the same thing…
    "Im away at the moment but I can post it to you"

  • -1

    Tit for tat. How's that going to work? That sort of attitude only serves to inflame the perpetrator/s to up the ante. Do you really want to take the risk of getting well and truly burnt?
    That's also how wars start…… and only encourages the scammers to come up with more and more ways to diddle you and others.

    • I know, but on the other hand if we were all brave enough to stand up to them…………….

    • Tit for tat. How's that going to work? That sort of attitude only serves to inflame the perpetrator/s to up the ante.

      Are you a scammer that hopes everyone you try to scam will simply get scammed quietly?

  • +4

    I tried with a car one, said he was in Darwin and could ask someone to pick up. I was like whaddaya know, I have a cousin in Darwin, you can pass the cash to him, what Street are you on? No worries, you can trust him as he's a police officer.

    No response after that 🥹

  • give a fake sellers details to a fake buyer, and let em go at each other

  • its really easy to detect them on FBM.

    you wont see the normal 3-buttons clicks reply.

  • I like to see a FB scammer faceoff with a reverse FB scammer.

  • had a person turn up at my house to pick up an iphone, only to snatch the phone n run away. lucky the police was just around the corner n managed to catch this guy. I got my phone back, but the incident haunts me each time i think abt posting something in FB MP.

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