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His_Holiness on 14/08/2023 - 10:44
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As the nation leads up to the historic referendum later this year, Sky News The Voice Debate channel covers all aspects of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

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  • Drakesy on 14/08/2023 - 10:46
    +54

    Haha, wouldn't watch Sky even if they paid me.

    • senectus on 14/08/2023 - 10:56
      +9

      depends on how masochistic I'm feeling.. you know.. some times you just want to be made angry?

    • tallkid123 on 14/08/2023 - 11:24

      I would!

      Pretty sure the mute button still works on my remote.

  • Keizserr on 14/08/2023 - 10:47
    +1

    putting popcorn in microwave

  • gareth886 on 14/08/2023 - 10:48
    +19

    I highly doubt this will be fair or impartial if their main "News" channel is anything to go by.

    • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:01
      -6

      Depends who the speakers are.

    • orangetrain on 14/08/2023 - 14:56
      +5

      Its not false advertising as they call themselves News Limited.

  • Sidog on 14/08/2023 - 10:49
    +15

    I'm sure Sky News will provide fair and blanced reporting on "The Voice Debate"…

    • AustriaBargain on 14/08/2023 - 10:54
      +9

      For those not in the know, Sky News is our version of Fox News.

    • His_Holiness on 14/08/2023 - 11:48
      +2

      Chris Kenny is one of the loudest advocates for the Voice

      • Mechz on 14/08/2023 - 12:55
        -1

        Possibly because it's a massive token appointment.

      • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 13:30
        -2

        Must have big balls and big brain. Clearly wasted on Poxnews et al.

      • Kayrhcp on 15/08/2023 - 08:23

        You say ‘loudest advocate’ as if it’s not a bad thing regardless of what side it’s for

  • ozbargainoid on 14/08/2023 - 10:49
    +16

    Is it the truth…or does it come from News Corpse.

  • Just ignore me on 14/08/2023 - 10:49

    Thank you OP, will have this on in the background while i work.

  • AustriaBargain on 14/08/2023 - 10:53
    +11

    Gee, I wonder what side of the "debate" Sky News will be on…

    • m0tyrider on 04/09/2023 - 10:35
      -1

      Probably the opposite of what the main stream media is .. ;)

  • jv on 14/08/2023 - 10:58
    +4

    Hopefully, both sides get to have a say, unlike the Borough of Queenscliffe who are paying with ratepayer funds to fly in a ‘yes’ campaigner for its controversial pro-Voice forum where they have banned speakers from presenting the 'No" case.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/borough-of-queens…

    • Crow K on 14/08/2023 - 11:09
      +9

      jv wringing their hands out of concern the "No" case might not get any airtime on Sky News

      • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:21
        +2

        I don't watch Sky News, so I don't really care either way, but if a forum is being funded publicly, it should be fair and allow representations from both sides and not be exploited by councillors to push their own political agenda.

        • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 12:49
          +6

          In another excellent illustration of the moronic mob mentality of some here on OzB, 3 people downvoted the idea that public money be used to present both sides of a national referedum topic.
          SMH.

          • AngoraFish on 14/08/2023 - 14:13
            -2

            @Almost Banned: The Borough of Queenscliffe has a population of 2,982. Statistically, it seems likely that neither JV, nor yourself, are residents.

            This is another excellent illustration of the moronic mob mentality hyped by the Herald Sun and Sky News in order to generate anger clicks.

            • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 14:32
              +3

              @AngoraFish: Queenscliffe is in Victoria, JV's location is marked as Vic so he's at least a small chance, mine is Perth so none at all. However, whether your concern is that only residents of Queenscliffe should be interested in its local government's waste and bias, or that some media outlets aren't to be trusted, neither of them address the issue.
              Even if the story is incorrect - and I haven't seen anything that says it is - surely we can agree that if a local government is to sponsor such an event it should have some balance?

              • AngoraFish on 14/08/2023 - 15:04
                +3

                @Almost Banned: Dude, if you want to have a chat about government waste and bias I'm with you.

                Let's start with the not at all wasteful or biased $240 million that the last federal Coalition government spent of your and my money trying to get reelected. How many hysterical headlines did that warrant in the Herald Sun, ya reckon, at the time? And yeah, I'll even have that discussion about the ALP government's current advertising spend as well if you like.

                If you want to get hysterical about a few thousand dollars that the Murdoch tabloids thought might score them a cheap headline in service of the unending culture wars and anything with a whiff of 'woke', however, then I've got more important things to be triggered by.

                • cookie2 on 14/08/2023 - 17:12
                  +2

                  @AngoraFish: So no answer to the question then.

                  • AngoraFish on 14/08/2023 - 17:51
                    +3

                    @cookie2: As I said, I refuse to engage with your cherry-picked mob-driven carnivals of punch-down micro-outrage.

                    People give the Murdoch press too much credibility already, and for the reasons we're seeing right here - you guys love being told that the reason you feel like victims is because of minorities and the university educated, and not coincidentally, nothing at all to do with media barons and mining magnates and rent-seeking conservative politicians, not even a little bit.

                    • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:28
                      +2

                      @AngoraFish: So, would you have an issue with it if it had been reported by a different news outlet - because your answers keep refusing to address the actual issue…???

                      • AngoraFish on 14/08/2023 - 21:40
                        +2

                        @Almost Banned: I've been pretty clear why I keep refusing to address the 'actual issue'.

                        Realistically, however, the real issue is that this is a thread about The Voice, and yet somehow you seem intent on trying to get me to acknowledge that you're the real victim here because of the actions of some obscure Victorian local government area 3500 away from where you actually live.

                        • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:42
                          +1

                          @AngoraFish: Your answers make it very clear that you are ok with a local government putting on a public forum and only inviting one side of the debate, yes, that is quite clear.
                          Sadly for the Yes campaign, most Australians will not be told that they are racist for having a different view, and will not be cowed into further entrenching racism into the constitution by white guilt.

              • jv on 15/08/2023 - 11:36
                -1

                @Almost Banned:

                Even if the story is incorrect

                It is very correct, it is on their facebook page and they are ignoring everyone posting questions for them to justify their stance. Volunteers from people wanting to present the "No" argument have been refused.

        • Kayrhcp on 15/08/2023 - 08:24
          +1

          Why do you overuse bold? We can read

  • calcium on 14/08/2023 - 11:10
    +6

    Angertainment

  • tsunamisurfer on 14/08/2023 - 11:20
    +2

    There shouldn't even be a debate.

    The first sniff of any influence in WA they tried to extort $2.5m to assess a conservation tree planting exercise along a river bed.

    • Sidog on 14/08/2023 - 12:12
      +7

      Imagine if everytime a white person/politician did something dodgy or corrupt we all said "Look at these white people, extorting the public"

      • Mechz on 14/08/2023 - 12:57

        I think 'elected politician' is freely exchangeable with 'public extortionist'.

        • morse on 14/08/2023 - 13:11

          With the majority of elected politicians in Australia being white

          • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:29

            @morse: Like the population…???
            If Australia were actually a country that cared about race you'd only see non-white elected representatives from majority non-white electorates.

            • morse on 17/08/2023 - 07:26

              @Almost Banned: Yes, hence my comment in reference to sidog and mechz comments - if everyone created a drama about the dodgy things white people did and attributed it to their race or culture.

    • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 13:32
      -1

      Your use of the word 'they' in the way you did is defining

  • mskeggs on 14/08/2023 - 11:22
    +2

    Desperate search for relevance.

    • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:26

      Who? The Borough of Queenscliffe?

  • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 11:25
    +12

    I wish they would hurry up and have this referendum already so I can stop hearing about this.

    • Mechz on 14/08/2023 - 12:58
      -1

      I literally never hear about it. Maybe 5 seconds a week.

      Just stop watching the news mate.

      • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 13:26
        +2

        Its everywhere. Normal ads, YouTube ads, on the radio etc etc. The news just has the Matilda's.

        • Mechz on 14/08/2023 - 13:30
          +2

          I guess I just don't see these things because I either don't listen or adblock.

  • Lord Fart Bucket on 14/08/2023 - 11:28
    -2

    How is there a debate needed for this?

    • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:33
      +2

      How is there a debate needed for this?

      To get some details about how it would work exactly.
      How will people be selected and what powers they would have.

      • Lord Fart Bucket on 14/08/2023 - 11:43
        +1

        I think we can agree there have been some horrendous atrocities in the past, including the recent past.
        We've had this closing the gap stuff for quite some time. And each year we're collectively surprised the gap isn't closed. So, why would we keep doing the same thing? Why not do something else?

        To get some details about how it would work exactly.

        You get an advisory body. It provides advice. That advice can be taken or it can be ignored. I can provide you with advice to replace bold with italic. You can choose to take that advice or ignore it.

        Again, why do we need to debate this?

        • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:44
          +1

          I think we can agree there have been some horrendous atrocities in the past, including the recent past.

          And is this supposed to fix it, or prevent future ones?

          • Lord Fart Bucket on 14/08/2023 - 11:45
            +8

            @jv:

            And is this supposed to fix it, or prevent future ones?

            You can't fix the past, you can try to make a better future.

            • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:47
              +3

              @Lord Fart Bucket:

              you can try to make a better future.

              Aren't they trying to do that now?

              What is the government doing to fix the problems in Alice Springs? How will the Voice being in the constitution fix this problem?

        • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:44
          +4

          You get an advisory body. It provides advice.

          They already have advisory groups.

          That advice can be taken or it can be ignored.

          Happens now.

          • Lord Fart Bucket on 14/08/2023 - 11:47
            +4

            @jv:

            They already have advisory groups.

            A group writing a letter to an MP about something when that MP doesn't give a *^%$$ about anything related to indigenous matters? Yeah, that's effective.

            • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:49
              +5

              @Lord Fart Bucket:

              A group writing a letter to an MP about something

              and what is the Minister for Indigenous Australian doing about it?

              They are literally getting paid to do this job.

              Is Albo now saying she is incompetent?
              If so, sack her and put someone there who can do the job properly.

            • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:32
              +3

              @Lord Fart Bucket: You clearly do not know current or historical aboriginal entities.
              They currently have NIAA. They used to have ATSIC. They are both indigenous advisory entities. The former is apparently so ineffective - despite its $2.5b budget - they want to replace it.
              The latter was a dismal failure and was disbanded.

        • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:46
          +4

          Again, why do we need to debate this?

          Agree, big waste of money. It is just causing more division and will not solve any problems.

          • Lord Fart Bucket on 14/08/2023 - 11:48

            @jv:

            big waste of money.

            We could have had a commonwealth games in regional vic for that money. That would have solved it all.

            • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:55

              @Lord Fart Bucket:

              We could have had a commonwealth games in regional vic for that money. T

              How much has Dan wasted already for the commonwealth games bid and how much is it going to cost us in compensation ?.

              How many people could that have housed or how many new ambulances could it have paid for?

              • AngoraFish on 14/08/2023 - 12:54
                +1

                @jv: Just think of all the negative gearing tax credits and coal mining subsidies we could have paid for with that cash!

            • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 13:37

              @Lord Fart Bucket: Wasting your time.
              People who argue about something that lifts others from the misery of our doing, whilst wilfully aware it won't be a detriment to them, are immovable.

              If the Voice fails it than becomes an outward legal avenue.Out of the govt and voters hands More expensive and more rights for First Australians.

              • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:33
                +4

                @Protractor: You'd have to satisfy people that The Voice(tm) will actually achieve something that none of the previous indigenous consultative entities has been able to achieve.
                Wishing and hoping is not a plan.
                White guilt is not a reason.

                • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 21:52
                  +1

                  @Almost Banned: 'have to' ?
                  Says who?

                  Do you know the value of good intentions and goodwill and acknowledging the truth, and LISTENING TO THE MOST IMPACTED VS the ridiculous excuse to protect the status quo?

                  • Almost Banned on 14/08/2023 - 21:57
                    +6

                    @Protractor: You are right. You don't have to… unless you think that they will vote for this nonsense without a compelling reason that it might actually work.
                    You have just perfectly illustrated the difference between the politically sane, and insane.
                    The sane care about results.
                    The insane care about appearances.
                    The Yes campaign apparently don't care if the Voice doesn't actually achieve anything.

                    • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 22:02
                      +1

                      @Almost Banned: You are very heavily invested in derailing something that gives First Australians hope.
                      and
                      You played the 'insane card' pretty freely there.

                      I'll let the maths do the rest

        • OrangeBJ on 14/08/2023 - 22:18
          +4

          agree! we don't need to debate it. NO is the straight answer. Forgot it? "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

      • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 13:27
        +4

        To get some details about how it would work exactly.

        Don't worry about that, the government will sort out all the details, what could go wrong.

        • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 13:39

          Your confusing the Voice with Robodebt.
          Scomos finest hour.

          • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 13:39
            +3

            @Protractor: No, I'm not. There are no details of how anything will work, and we are told to just trust that the government will sort it.

            • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 13:42
              +4

              @brendanm: OK So you read this obviously and all the other info stuff? I might as well post it for all the genuinely, as yet, uneducated readers.

              https://voice.gov.au/

              BTW as you're one of the few who is 'genuine' > if you stumble across stuff at the link , that you have 'since forgotten about' and have subsequent questions, ask them, not me.

              Frankly the LNP are the shape shifters here. They said in govt they would deliver recognition (lie) then they passed the bill to allow the vote.
              Then they went with a flat NO position. They are just using race to divide, while appeasing fringe dwellers and extremists as usual.
              Dutton walked out on the apology. Then said he regretted it. The LNP and their leader are weak insipid impostors, who follow wherever the most rancid wind blows from.

              • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 14:02
                +4

                @Protractor: That is a whole bunch of non-information.

                • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 14:21
                  +3

                  @brendanm: Whoa, you read quick,dude.

                  There's reams of info there.

                  I'll speculate that going by any of your previous posts that broach this topic you would never say yes, even if the spud or Pauline was endorsing it and came with a cash incentive.

                  • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 14:37
                    +5

                    @Protractor: It's the equivalent of asking a 5 year old to design a rocket ship. "It will have an engine and some wings and a window so you can look out into space". The devil is in the details, I don't trust the government as far as I can throw them.

                    Which of my "previous posts" tell you this? My wife actually has very famous Aboriginal heritage, which means my kids do as well, I likely have more skin in this game than you.

                    • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 14:50
                      +2

                      @brendanm: Review your own previous comments. Hint> a few months back.
                      I'm not exposing myself to them again.
                      Exactly what do you call 'famous Aboriginal heritage" ?

                      • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 16:08
                        +5

                        @Protractor: I've made many comments a few months back, I don't know what triggers you, so I wouldn't know what to look for.

                        I'm not exposing myself to them again.

                        It really is true, good times do make soft men.

                        Exactly what do you call 'famous Aboriginal heritage" ?

                        It is what it says on the box. She has Aboriginal heritage, one of her ancestors is famous, so it's all very easily traceable.

                        • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 16:25
                          +1

                          @brendanm: So your wife is 'aboriginal' but isn't ?

                          • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 16:35
                            +2

                            @Protractor: Where did I say she isn't?

                            • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 16:40
                              +2

                              @brendanm: Oh sorry. She 'is' aboriginal.
                              So what do your in-laws say about the Voice? All vehement no ,like you?

                              You make a point of the verbal abuse you cop .
                              Wondering>
                              Have your kids ever experienced anti aboriginal racist slurs in their lives?
                              As a father, what was your reaction to it?

                              • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 16:45
                                +3

                                @Protractor: All the ones we talk to will be voting no.

                                You make a point of the verbal abuse you cop .

                                Past tense, I don't live there anymore.

                                Have your kids ever experienced anti aboriginal racist slurs in their lives?

                                Nope, they don't look Aboriginal though. Not sure what that has to do with anything, I never mentioned that people haven't used any Aboriginal slurs. My point is that it's not all one way.

                                • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 16:55
                                  +1

                                  @brendanm: Boy that's some tricky life navigation, right there.

                                  • brendanm on 14/08/2023 - 16:56
                                    +2

                                    @Protractor: Another day, another comment that makes no sense. Well done.

          • jv on 14/08/2023 - 15:30
            +3

            @Protractor:

            Your confusing the Voice with Robodebt.

            deflection occurs when you are losing an argument.

            • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 15:47
              +1

              @jv: OMG ?? LOL.
              Really?
              I bow to your enormous knowledge in this specific deflection area.

              I'm surprised you don't blame Dan for Robodebt

              • jv on 14/08/2023 - 15:49
                +1

                @Protractor:

                I bow to your enormous knowledge

                Umm… OK…

    • cookie2 on 14/08/2023 - 17:14

      In case it has to be explained, there are multiple choices so therefore debating options becomes possible.

  • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:34
    +2

    There are 1.1 million people of Italian descent living in Australia.

    Shouldn't they have a voice ?

    • ginormousgiraffe on 14/08/2023 - 11:37
      +10

      They do in Italy

      • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:38
        +1

        Not for people who live in Australia.

        • ginormousgiraffe on 14/08/2023 - 11:48
          +8

          Did the Australian government forcefully take their land then commit a genocide of their people?

          • jv on 14/08/2023 - 11:52
            -3

            @ginormousgiraffe:

            Did the Australian government forcefully take their land

            The took away their taxi licences…

            Did the Australian government commit a genocide of their people?

            Wasn't that England ????

            • ginormousgiraffe on 14/08/2023 - 11:58
              +6

              @jv: Good on you for an obviously racist comment mate, and what year do you think the stolen generations ended? Hint: these people are still alive today.

              • jv on 14/08/2023 - 12:02
                +5

                @ginormousgiraffe:

                obviously racist comment mate

                How is it racist?

                I can see how the Voice in Parliament is racist though…

                • Protractor on 14/08/2023 - 12:40
                  +3

                  @jv: "How is it racist?" you asked that question.
                  Second hint after "I'm not a racist but"

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