Buy 1 New Tyre or a Pair? (~27,000km old) - Flat Tyre

capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 02:40
Last edited 04/08/2023 - 22:44

Hi gang,

Punctured flat the rear-driver-side.
Tyre shop says unrepairable since it's been driven on flat.
(Suggested to replace 2 or more because they're drying/minor cracking.)

(Quoted me a few brands orally, but all approx ~$250 each or $1000 for 4.)

These OEM/factory-fitted tyres labelled 2018 and he said the model is in runout…

I'm due to book the next logbook service soon.

I was thinking a single new tyre..

  1. what's good tyre (brand and model)
  2. is it advisable getting same brand/model as the rest of the car, or doesn't matter if same specs?
  3. where should the new tyre/s be fitted? It's a FWD.

TIA lads, your help is appreciated.

Update - * Poll might've been too ambiguous.
When I say Same model I meant the factory/OE brand model.
Different model being a whole other brand/model that is not the OE it came with! ***

(It was kind of skewed at~27th vote now unfortunately, but I'd hazard that when you voted Option2, majority of those is actually Option3 being a different brand pair…?)

Edit - more photos (current tyres) as requested:
https://ibb.co/5KrXKNm - Type of drying/cracking they talked.
https://ibb.co/KXTp95f - Tread-wear indicator
https://ibb.co/pfW53GB - Tread-wear indicator
https://ibb.co/86sffBg - Tread principal groove
https://ibb.co/qrCqPJL - Tread groove

Poll Options

  • 5
    Buy 1 tyre the same model * OEM
  • 74
    Buy 2 tyres the same model * OEM
  • 4
    Buy 2 tyres from different model * non-OE
Automotive Tyre

Comments

  • Hybroid on 31/07/2023 - 03:20
    +5

    Are these the same tyres from here? If so, I did think they were getting pretty low on rubber as it is.

    You should replace in pairs across the same axle for best balance, control and safety. Especially when the other one is fairly worn down already. Ideally do all 4 if the other 2 are similar condition and drying/cracking as you say.

    Cross shop with Bob Jane, whom I have always found competitive with good service and have Buy 3 Get 1 Free offers, but also Tyresales and Tyroola for fitted at home quotes.

    Logbook service isn't relevant to tyres. You shouldn't be replacing tyres at a dealer anyway and you do not need the exact same model as the factory tyres.

    • geekcohen on 31/07/2023 - 05:46

      You shouldn't be replacing tyres at a dealer anyway

      Uuuummmm, why? Are you referring to their markup on the cost?

    • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 08:20

      Yeah the tyre shop OP happened at was a BJ.
      (As Beaurepaires weren't available)

  • SnoozeAndLose on 31/07/2023 - 06:56
    +1

    There are so many buy 3 get 1 free tyre promo going on, jax tyre sometime do extra $100/10% on top discount.

    So just get 4 replaced unless you are preparing for sale.

    Otherwise in 1 year time you need another 2 which don't give you any discount.

    Or go with Goodsyear buy 2 get 50% on the second tyre

    • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 08:48

      Hmmm a sale…
      Tbh I might be happy with just getting by (with 1-2 new and another 1-2 down the track).
      Nice options

    • quog on 31/07/2023 - 13:14

      id get 4 new on the current bjtm deal.

      you may also find that you get a lower unit price for 4 than 2, and then have one removed at the lower price.

      make some phone calls

  • barge-in hunter on 31/07/2023 - 07:53
    +1

    These OEM/factory tyres labelled 2018

    Do you happen to have a full sized spare, with another brand new tyre on it?

    If yes, fit that alongside another brand new one - and use the older worn one as a spare

    • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 08:33
      +2

      No full spare, it's compact space saver.

      That's why I'm thinking replacing 1-2 tyres the same factory models, if 2 then keeping an older one as spare in my garage..

      • capslock janitor on 04/08/2023 - 22:40

        Just realized I wouldn't even have the same OEM rim model for a 5th full-size spare…

  • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 08:17

    Good morning
    It seems I possibly botched the poll with ambiguity
    2AM brain.

    When I say Same model I meant the factory/OEM brand model

    Different model being a whole other model that is not the OEM it came with!

  • gryphn on 31/07/2023 - 08:35

    Always replace tyres in pairs. You want to keep everything from vehicle dynamics, braking to steering working well as it all goes towards safety.

    From your picture that was linked and age of tyre. I would replace at minimum two.

    • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 10:00

      Added more photos.

      Unsure if the flat could've looked worse than the others, cos it was driven flat and pic was taken afterwards

  • payless69 on 31/07/2023 - 09:05
    +1

    Keep 2 newbies on the front, that is where most the braking (and breaking out) action is.

    But hey we LOVE piccies! Closeups, cracks etc…

    • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 09:43
      +1

      Added to post:)

      Lmk if need mroe info

  • Lord Ra on 31/07/2023 - 09:06

    5 years, it's a long time, especially if the car is left outside a lot. If indoors, or you don't drive much, then you can risk keeping the minimal cracking. If not, change both, get the pair.
    What I did was to use the Buy three get one free offer. Bought 4, fitted two, stored 2 (correctly). My old 2 tyres lasted me a whole years until I sliced one then got them fitted and aligned again. BOBT charged me $75 for alignment.

    Try these:

    Bridgestone Potenza S001
    Michelin Pilot Sport 5
    Michelin Pilot Sport 4
    Michelin Primacy 4
    Bridgestone Ecopia H/L001
    Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S
    Pirelli Pzeros
    Pirelli Pzeros PZ4

  • JimmyF on 31/07/2023 - 09:07
    -1

    I was thinking a single new tyre..

    Yeah don't do that…. Get two new ones. Mismatched tyres (side to side, not front to back) are not good and are illegal in a lot of cases, voiding insurance etc.

    • Ugly on 31/07/2023 - 13:18
      +1

      If you’re short of cash, assuming you have an unused spare, buy 1 new tyre, put your spare on the other side and keep the “good” old tyre as your spare.

      • JimmyF on 31/07/2023 - 14:32

        That'll work as well.

    • capslock janitor on 11/08/2023 - 03:42
      -1

      I didn't see where it's illegal in Australia, nor voiding insurance 🧐
      As long it's same sizing

      • JimmyF on 11/08/2023 - 09:00

        Guess you'll find out oneday if you ever need your insurance.

        • capslock janitor on 11/08/2023 - 10:49
          +1

          you can't provide citation and say that

          speaking from personal experience?

  • Tovers93 on 31/07/2023 - 09:15
    +1

    Get a fresh matching pair and then if you have a Front Wheel Drive car, get those new tyres put on the front axle and rotate the older tyres to the rear.
    I was always told that was best practice to have the newest tyres upfront where you need the grip for handling & power

  • Pelicannn on 31/07/2023 - 09:34

    Blows my mind that people will skimp out on the only part of the car that’s keeping you in contact with the road.

    I hit a pothole in my car after only 6,000km on the left and had no hesitation in replacing both left and right, and they were $420 (Michelin PS5) each. It hurt the wallet, but it probably hurts a lot less than coming off the road from mismatched tyres.

    My recommendation is to replace both, especially with 27,000km of difference.

    • Kongzi on 31/07/2023 - 10:26

      Nice. Love having people like you as a customer

  • iDroid on 31/07/2023 - 09:39

    Toyo IMO have been the best bang for buck (for me at least). Ride well, last well and are reasonably priced.

    Get 2, not 1. 4 if you have the budget.

  • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 09:42

    Updated more pics for yáll eyes only

  • Protractor on 31/07/2023 - 10:08
    +1

    Get tyres made in a country where the latex originates (mostly SE Asia.) These countries / companies having been making affordable tyres equal to or better, and last way longer than most of the overpriced tyres name dropped here. ( a lot of whom are no longer made in the original country of origin anyway) Find yourself a proper independent tyre place and take a shortlist and get them to add their opinion on why their better choice( if they have one) suits your dilemma. There's plenty of tyre reviews to get you started. Just poke in the tyre size and away you go.
    But definitely yes to 2 tyres, not just one .
    *And I'd put the current front tyres on the rear (same side) and the newbies on the front.

    https://www.tirereview.com/pirelli-now-producing-full-line-u…

  • capslock janitor on 31/07/2023 - 10:37

    , thanks for all your replies

    • Lord Ra on 01/08/2023 - 09:10

      @capslock janitor the tyre looks good to me, there's plenty of tread left and the cracks are just starting to show. My 2012 car still had it's OG tyres on until 2021, when I had a puncture, just like you and changed it because it was too close to the edge. I'd keep them if I were you.

      Buy 4, use 1, store 3. Then, in one go, change all of them. Or see if you can match them. This is of course, if you're not a crazy fast performance driver, store the car in the shade and have a gentle right foot.

      • capslock janitor on 04/08/2023 - 23:09

        thanks for reviewing the new photos lordra and sharing.

        store 3. Then, in one go, change all of them.

        what do you mean, and at when?

        • Lord Ra on 07/08/2023 - 12:45

          Sorry, let me explain.
          You have 3 tyres in storage. 1 in use.
          When your 1or 2 of the old car tyres go bad enough, cracks, wear, etc, you make a call and swap all 3 old ones out for the 3 news you have from storage.

          What did you end up doing?

          • capslock janitor on 11/08/2023 - 03:39
            +1

            @Lord Ra: Oh that makes sense.

            Haven't ended yet, updated further below. Going to do this week

  • azero on 31/07/2023 - 14:23

    a bit late to the party, but 2 tires (on the same axel) is a no brainer at 27,000Km, Current ones have dry rot. Depends on the car, but the 2 different tire diameters can screw with the traction / stability control.

    Also I'd say a different (better) brand to oems. I'd recommend Michelin pilot sports (unless you go to snow) it will make a considerable difference in handling.

    When I replaced all 4 tires on my car with pilot sports, I handled like a different car.

  • randomusername2017 on 31/07/2023 - 15:03
    +1

    Budget option - 1 second hand OEM same spec for around $50.
    Replace all 4 when the next b1g1f sale starts.

    • quog on 31/07/2023 - 15:56

      never seen a BOGOF on tyres before. BFGOF sure

      • randomusername2017 on 31/07/2023 - 16:25
        +1

        Jax from time to time on selected brands.
        Mycar annual black Friday.

    • jamesorion on 31/07/2023 - 20:40
      +1

      This is my vote as well. Get one secondhand and then replace all of them on Black Friday.

      • capslock janitor on 11/08/2023 - 03:49

        @randomusername2017 nice suggestion unfortunately none OE found second-hand @jamesorion

  • Euphemistic on 31/07/2023 - 15:37
    +1

    Why is everyone voting mg for 2 tyre OEM? Surely that’s going to be less cost effective than no. OEM.

  • MeesusEff on 01/08/2023 - 05:15

    My brother swapped out a Mercedes OEM new tyres to my car, after 1.5 years was told that my front tyres were already worn and needed to be replaced.

    Went to this weird massive Korean tyre warehouse, told them my size and it was $155 ea balanced and fitted. Still looks alright 1.5 years later. Pretty good for no OEM

    • Lord Ra on 01/08/2023 - 08:39

      Next door to me bought chinese tyres for $80 each. He's happy with it.
      Would I? Never.

  • imnotgoingtopayrrp on 01/08/2023 - 20:29

    You can't beat the deals of people selling on FB market place when they swap the OEM wheels and tyres for aftermarket and almost scrap the OEMs. I know I will be getting a set of GWM cannon 265/60R18s and wheels from FB market place when my Paj needs some new shoes.

  • capslock janitor on 11/08/2023 - 03:37

    Thanks everyone. And those who commented about new pics//tread. ☑️
    Had task on the back burner but back on the wagon now. Was sharing another car.
    I liked the ideas of getting a used OE/factory-fitted, then wait for a good sale. unfortunately couldn't find any OE used. So that's out.

    Also the option of buying 2x matching Secondhand until a sale, guess I don't really wanna play around with used quality at this time.

    And realized if I bought >2 tyres as most have suggested , there's no 5th OEM model wheel/rim to go with it… Which couldn't even call it a proper spare wheel.
    So then might have to shop for new set of matching rims… Hmmm

    • Lord Ra on 11/08/2023 - 08:54

      Good luck, let us know what you decided to go with…!

  • capslock janitor on 12/08/2023 - 13:12

    Can anyone tell me why the tread pattern is different if both are same model? wtf

    Current OE
    New OE tyre

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