Advice on This Build for 1440p/120+ FPS High Settings Gaming?

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  Hybroid on 27/07/2023 - 18:35

  +4

  That's easily a 4K gaming rig, especially with DLSS enabled.

  If you're spending that much, make the most of it and get a gorgeous large 4K display with VRR to eliminate any screen tear from fluctuating framerate. The bigger the better for visual immersivity in those games.

  120Hz in singleplayer games isn't going to make as huge a difference, unlike if it was for fast action split-second competitive multiplayer ones.

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    [Deactivated] on 27/07/2023 - 18:40

    ^^^ This

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    Johnse on 27/07/2023 - 18:47

    Awesome, good to know. I'll look into 4K monitors then. Currently have a 1440p/165hz monitor but if this build is too overkill for that then I think I'll just upgrade the monitor than downgrade the build.

    Thanks for the advice!

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      jk82 on 28/07/2023 - 11:34

      +1

      I'd stick with 1440p if you want buttery frame rates.

      I've got a 4080 with an i512600k and I run a 175hz 3440x1440 monitor. I easily hit 144+ in most games at max settings. But when I plug it into my tv at 4k/120hz - I'm able to hit 120 most of the time - but some games will struggle and dip under that 120 mark so I need to adjust settings to get it stable. And of course releases like TLOU defo tank at 4k, where as at 1440p I can still hit over 100 easily

      If you want 4k 120+ then a 4090 is the way to go, otherwise I'd say 4080 is perfect for 1440 at high refresh rates

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        Johnse on 28/07/2023 - 15:09

        Awesome, thanks for sharing! Definitely would want it be overkill for 1440p than not strong enough haha. Should hopefully last longer before needing to upgrade again too

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      smoothymcmellow on 28/07/2023 - 14:31

      +1

      I built a new PC at the end of the year, similar specs

      Can confirm it'll run at 4k, it'll be cruising at 1440p.

      I had a 34"ultrawide 1440p monitor and then decided to jump on the ~$1k LG 42" OLED C2 deals, hands down it was an amazing investment. Just made such a difference and since I'd spent the coin on a top end 4k machine, may as well utilise it! So agree with above

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  spackbace on 27/07/2023 - 18:39

  +1

  GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1699.00 @ JW Computers)

  Seems overkill for 1440p Apparently not!

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  Sage222 on 27/07/2023 - 18:44

  Yeah don't need 4080 that's way too much for 1440

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  bobvegas on 27/07/2023 - 18:48

  +1

  If you were into VR the 4080 would make more sense, maybe you have vram anxiety and don't want stuttering from a 12GB card due not to performance issues but a lack of Vram, I could see that, but the price difference is huge

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    Johnse on 27/07/2023 - 18:57

    Spot on with the Vram anxiety lol. I put the 4070 Ti at first but saw so many people complaining about the Vram amount that it put me off. Now I'm feeling like it's overkill with the 4080 based on everyone's comments.

    But I'm not toooo bothered by the price, the 4070 Ti I was looking at was $1300 compared to $1700 for the 4080. Kind of feels like a wash with how inflated the prices are. Miss when I got my 1080 for $900…

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  [Deactivated] on 27/07/2023 - 19:50

  +1

  I got a 3070 on a high end rig running at 1440p and sometimes 4k depending on the game, i haven't seen any issues, Unless your specifically playing those very few games reviewers focus on to make vram seem like a big issue, think you'll be fine with 4070 ti for a few years.

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  RowanLucas on 27/07/2023 - 22:47

  +1

  Your ram is not listed under the compatible memory list on MSIs website. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-X670-P-WIFI/support#mem

  You may have trouble running them at full speed

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    Johnse on 28/07/2023 - 01:22

    Damn, thank you for the heads-up. Never knew about this list. I saw a comment in another thread that said that MSI motherboards are not as optimized as Gigabyte/Asus motherboards for DDR5 ram. I'm wondering if it's something to worry about?

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      RowanLucas on 28/07/2023 - 10:35

      +1

      I recently built a am5 system, and used an supposedly optimised asus motherboard, but still couldn’t get the ram to run at full speed just because it wasn’t listed under the supported list. It crashed for any speeds higher than 5200. Ymmv tho. If you don’t mind potentially having to run them at lower speeds, then I’d say go for it, as price is decent.

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        Johnse on 28/07/2023 - 14:58

        +1

        Thanks for the insight! Another commenter mentioned that'd only be superficial differences but considering the motherboard is already quite expensive I would expect it to work full speed.

        I've changed the motherboard to the Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX ATX AM5 Motherboard, which is compatible with the G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (for anyone who finds this thread, I had to check the G.Skill site rather than Gigabyte's site for this).

        Thanks again for pointing this out, I never would have noticed it myself.

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      jk82 on 28/07/2023 - 11:30

      +1

      It's more a DDR5 thing. DDR5 is still relatively new so you need compatibility with mobos. DDR4 has been around long enough it's pretty much a non-issue as all mobo manufacturers support all DDR4 brands.

      whatever board you get, check that the specific RAM sticks you get are compatible.

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  [Deactivated] on 28/07/2023 - 07:50

  +1

  Well you don't need a $450 X670 board for one. The entire chipset is basically just for high end enthusiast overclocking. RAM optimization is also a high end niche overclocker thing, even if there's performance loss its going to be marginal and only really noticeable in your synthetic benchmark score, I wouldn't worry about that too much either.

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    Johnse on 28/07/2023 - 15:01

    Thank you! Changed it to the Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX ATX AM5 Motherboard which is cheaper. Seems to have better reviews too - that MSI one was apparently a pain to install.

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  Rob-4x4 on 28/07/2023 - 08:40

  +1

  I am sort of in the same boat.

  I have recently purchased a I9-13900K K build, Western Digital Black NVME storage etc. So a powerful basic rig. It gets mostly used for work stuff, running VMs and containers for skills development etc but some weekend gaming, hence the high end cpu.

  But at the moment still running old 1080ti and wondering what Video card that will be usable a decent long time. Currently running 3440×1440 monitor but always want to keep options open for the future .

  GPUs I have considered are 4070ti, RX 7900 XTX and 4080.

  Given the pricing difference of cheaper 4080s around 1700 and the other 2 cards around 1300-1400 the answer for me it is save a bit longer, pay the Nvidia tax and get the 4080 as I think it will give best longer term usability especially as we see more games with ray tracing etc.

  I do monitor prices with camelcamel , ozbargin etc and if any super deals on a 4070ti or 7900 came up I could be tempted if it was substantially less than getting reamed on 4080 pricing …

  What do others think ?

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  jk82 on 28/07/2023 - 10:08

  +1

  That's a great build. You'll be blitzing past 120fps at 1440p.

  The good thing is that it should last you a while, and for the un-optimised games that come out you'll be able to brute force them and still play them on release at high settings and solid frame rates!