Speeding Fine Waiver if Less than 10 km/h over & A Single Occurrence

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With the current cost of living being a challenge for many, I thought I would post this again as it hasn't been posted for quite some time. I do not condone this as a way to purposely speed and use this to evade a fine, it is a PSI for those that may have been pinged due to a lack of concentration or some other distracting reason.

If you are pinged for speeding and this is a one off type of scenario (have a look at the link for full details), you can request for your infringement to be reviewed and the outcome is that it will highly likely be revoked. This only occurs in scenarios where the alleged speed is less than 10k/h over the stated limit and that you generally have a good driving record (no other infringements within the last two years is what they usually look at).

What you need to do is to write to the relevant authority that is stated on the infringement notice and:

  1. Admit the offence
  2. Show remorse for the offence
  3. Explain that it was a momentary lack of judgement, not how you typically drive, distracted by kids or something along those lines

This is usually just a small 3 or 4 sentence paragraph. If you meet the criteria then you would likely have the fine waived and the demerit points removed.

Again, this is not a condonement to hoon around, it's purely there to try and keep ~$200 in your pocket.

Then you can spend more money on streaming services from Turkey.

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Comments

  • +1

    On Chatgpt right now. Thanks.

    • I tried this recently and they didnā€™t let me off for 10kmh over.

  • lol

  • +2

    Dam, wish I knew about this earlier. Although I am in NSW, was busted a few years back driving <5kmh over in a 60 zone.
    Fine actually wasn't that much, but the pain from the wife.. now that's another matter.

    • And yet you are still alive to post.
      I thought that "speed kills".

      • +3

        In this case wife kills šŸ˜‚

      • +1

        I thought that "speed kills".

        Would you rather be hit at 50kmph or 60kmph?

        • -6

          I would rather the motorist at 70 be paying attention rather than watching his mobile phone at 50.
          I would also like the pot head pedestrian to be paying attention, rather than texting on his phone.
          Not everything is the drivers fault.
          50 is childish.

          • +4

            @Leadfoot6: Name checks out.

          • +3

            @Leadfoot6: I would also rather be a billionaire who commutes via a helicopter.

            So you wouldn't mind being hit at 50 vs 60, maybe even at 70kmph. OK.

            What about the guy going 70 who thinks he's super skilled and is paying (enough) attention?

            • -4

              @Ughhh: How about ZERO?
              Would you be happy with that?
              That is, by implication, your only satisfactory solution.

              • @Leadfoot6: It's concerning that you don't think speed contributes to the consequences of a collision. If I didn't do a bit of physics at school, I would probably believe you.

                I probably know a few guys who consider themselves super skilled drivers, perhaps they could drive 80kmph down your street?

                • -3

                  @Ughhh: I am reasonably well versed in basic physics, acquired at high school level and in studying for my PPL(private pilot's licence).
                  What is important to understand is that there needs to be an IMPACT for there to be consequences of a collision.
                  That is what my rationale is all about…..AVOIDING COLLISIONS…..at which I have done very well for almost 40 years.
                  And as for anyone traveling along my street @80kmph I have no problem with that, as it is reasonably long and part of it is zoned 80.
                  Other parts of it are zoned at 40, 50, 60 and the aforementioned 80.
                  LUDICROUS.
                  I just ignore these stupid speed zone changes and keep safe regardless.
                  These speed zones are set with the involvement of the Local Council.
                  For more than 40 years, since the road that I am living on was widened by the Council, my family have been fighting it to have them recognise that they have compromised significantly my/our ability to enter and exit safely due to a specific modification that they have imposed on me and my family.
                  It has caused a documented accident for a former neighbour, who shares the driveway path.
                  Despite years of arguments, and my repeated calls for the Council employed Road Safety Officer to attend without success, I have had to launch action in Court 18 months ago.
                  Thankfully, the Council just in the last few months have made some concessions(including actually agreeing to pay for the modifications sought for) which go most of the way to alleviating my concerns, but it is a disgrace that I have had to drag them kicking and screaming via court action, with me risking huge legal fees if I lost.
                  Fortunately, they have just conceded in writing their willingness to now alter their position with only minor details to be tidied up.
                  Repeated again, not once has the Road Safety Officer conceded a problem or visit before Court action alerted Council to the seriousness of ignoring the report prepared by my own civil engineer, and that I could not be ignored any longer.
                  Councils love to set stupid speed limits as it is easy to do and looks like they are doing something, but do not want to address more valid road safety concerns unless an electric cattle prod is inserted up their jacksie.
                  I just hope that the modifications will be completed before my mum's impending 100th birthday, who had to resort to exposing the Council on the front page of the local regional newspaper 9 years ago alerting the community that we could not get an ambulance into the property, about which the Council showed extreme reluctance to address until I "lawyered up" recently.

                  • @Leadfoot6:

                    What is important to understand is that there needs to be an IMPACT for there to be consequences of a collision.
                    That is what my rationale is all aboutā€¦..AVOIDING COLLISIONSā€¦..at which I have done very well for almost 40 years.

                    This is the problem. You have to be naive to think everyone has the same skill and good judgement as you. No one wants an impact/collision.

                    And as for anyone traveling along my street @80kmph I have no problem with that, as it is reasonably long and part of it is zoned 80.

                    In regular suburban area, it's usually 50kmph, are you able to put your self in the shoes of someone living in That area?
                    How about some guy going 150kmph on your driveway near your mother?

                    As for you other rambling, I'll forward that to the clouds.

  • +1

    OzB is becoming a notices board.

    • +2

      Saving ~$240 is better than 99% of the ā€˜bargainsā€™ posted here.

      • +3

        I've saved thousands and thousands of $$$ by not committing murder or other crimes and ending up in jail.

      • 10kmh over is $124 I recently had one and appealed and didnā€™t get off.

    • Oh bugger. I thought the purpose of the site was for people to save money. My mistake, I should have posted this on www.nosavingsever.com.au.

      Thanks for highlighting my error.

      • +1

        broken link
        (i know i know i know , just sarcasm)

  • +1

    I used this last year, saved me a cool $250 I think it was for doing 68 in a 60 zone.. my template was very basic just said I admit doing this, it was my mistake and I was distracted momentarily by the (insert distraction) and that I feel very bad for breaking the law in Dangahanstan and I will never do it again.
    Fine waved.

    • +1

      Can I use "I was distracted momentarily by an SMS that I read and replied too"?

      • +1

        I didnā€™t use that one, but give it a try!

      • +1

        I would say no as that would possibly make one a silly salmon.

    • Distracted by an OF pic.

      • Thatā€™s the excuse I used!

        • Did you attach the OF pic? That might have swayed their decision.

  • +10

    Save Minimum $200 on Driving Infringement Notices by Driving within The Speed Limit @ Australian Roads

    • +2

      Protect Your Wallet With This One Hack! Fixed Speeding Cameras Hate It!

      • +2

        How a 72 year old Grandmother almost brought down the State Revenue Office with one simple trick!!

  • And if all goes wrong don't forget to send an apology note to the innocent person you cleaned up because of your hooning.

  • -4

    If speeding is a priority ,over eating or paying rent,power,water then brains gone AWOL (is this acronym approved?) . '

    "Sorry your honour, I thought going faster saved fuel"

    • -2

      It actually does.
      The most efficient speed is at the peak torque point in the highest gear possible.

      • -2

        Never a more appropriate username & kudos to you and that personal science you have discovered . I don't think I have ever seen such dedication & commitment to speeding, under any and every circumstance. ( School crossing guards and school kids,look out.)
        Really looking fwd to the next disciple who uses your defence tenet in a real court situation.Keep me in the loop

        PS you do know you can change down and slow down?

        I'm curious though. Do you actually speed as much as you infer, and what sort of radar detector are you using?

    • It does save fuel. Hanging on a low gear because some idiot wont go more than 46 in a 60 zone.

      • So are you pro speeding or pro the speed limit?
        Got a radar detector?

        Going 46kph on someone else's bumper isn't speeding by the way

        • -1

          Is reading your specialty?

  • -2

    I haven't discovered anything.
    It is pure physics.
    Those knowledgeable about vehicle dynamics know what I am talking about.
    Possibly, you should not be commenting on things that you know little about.

  • -4

    & To the P.S. by Protractor.
    Username appropriate as you are generally 180 degrees facing the wrong way on all issues.
    Yes, I "speed" most of the time.
    I live in a country area of relatively low population density.
    I avoid driving on "double points" periods, & just "stock up" on supplies appropriately when these periods are in force.
    I drive mainly at night if I get the chance.
    Much less Highway Patrol cars/Bikes.
    The low traffic density means it is not really productive for the revenue raisers to be sitting waiting for not much passing traffic.
    The favourite "hangouts" are well known.
    Police are relatively lazy.
    And they are NEVER about on wet days, when it would be most sensible to enforce speeding laws.
    I get fined about once a year, but I am always on the lookout.
    It keeps me alert, and the main reason why I have almost 40 yrs. no accidents, even with a huge distance driven over those years.
    Keeping a well maintained car helps, as does extensive motorsport experience.
    Not everyone can do it, hence so many jealous sceptical comments, but it has worked for me.

    • +1

      … why I have almost 40 yrs. no accidents, even with a huge distance driven over those years.

      Driving a "huge distance" on roads with low traffic density doesn't necessarily indicate to me that you are a good driver. And being a self-confessed speeder seems to confirm it.

      • -1

        Um, I didn't always live in a country area.
        But for the last 10 years I have been again living in the same country area that I did where my parents were teaching me to drive from when I was 13, yes, 13 years old.
        I drove taxis for many years in Sydney(night shift only - lower traffic density outside of peak hours) when I was younger, and sold cars which involved test driving and moving cars between dealerships, and then purchasing stock from interstate locations and bringing them back to Sydney as quick as possible.
        I made very good money driving taxis because of my ability to get to the next job as quick as possible.
        I was known as the only driver at my regular base never to have put a scratch on any of the taxis I drove, except when someone else did not stop at a stop sign, which was, of course, not my fault.
        You need to know your facts before making a fool of yourself.
        As I said in the earlier post, lots of scepticism & jealousy, but my posts are true & accurate.
        Sorry to burst your balloon.

  • +3

    Going back to the late 90's - going downhill in the old Buladelah pass, with a radar trap at the bottom of the hill. I paid up - sent in my cheque with a short note explaining that this was the day I learned that cruise control didn't work going downhill. My cheque was returned to me, along with a letter advising that a caution had been recorded against my name, but no demerit points awarded. Win!

  • Yes you use to be able to get off if you had a good driving record but didnt they stop this a couple years ago in Victoria?

  • You will still get the points and may be asked to make a "contribution".

    1. I did speed
    2. I am sorry I did speed
    3. I was distracted by playing on my phone
  • They won't accept this method in Queensland.

  • When I last looked I thought NSW was clean record for 10 years, VIC was only two years.

    I got done in January while visiting Canberra for driving through a red arrow ($502!), but the pictures and video (which are pretty neat) show a green light and no arrow at all. I assume the light itself was faulty and have applied to have the infringement withdrawn. 6 months later I'm still waiting for the outcome of the review and their website says:

    Due to the ongoing impacts of COVID-19 we are experiencing extended processing times for infringement withdrawal requests and Statutory Declarations (Infringement Notice Declarations). If you have submitted a request, no further action is required by the due date, as these notices have now been placed on hold. We will contact you once a decision has been made. Thank you for your patience.

    Every now and then I go to the site and have a look, although the only option is to lodge a new withdrawal request which then fails with a message saying "Your infringement is already under review."…

    How can COVID still be having such a huge impact on these? What is the estimated time for review? 6 Months? 12 Months? 2 Years? I suppose I just keep waiting for the (hopefully) inevitable confirmation that it will be withdrawn.

    • +1

      …aaaaaand I got the withdrawal letter this week! Yay :)

  • Speeding fines are a REVENUE COLLECTION tool.
    So NOTHING will stop the collectors greed.

    They issue fines to collect money. Full stop.

    Don't give the a'holes the satisfaction, avoid speeding/phone/sit-belt as if your life depends of it.

    • But THEY forced me to speed and/or touch my phone!!!! 1!2!!2!!

      /s

      Perhaps the only way to disassociate from "revenue raising" is to pay in other ways, like Yubitsume.

  • +1

    Pay your taxes, you drove past the tax man and he wants his money.

  • -1

    Here is evidence of a massive drop of infringements issued, but without any seeming commensurate increase in horrible deaths from speeding.

    "Mobile speed camera fines drop 88 per cent in NSW after warning signs return
    […..]
    In the past two months, about 6650 penalty notices were handed out for mobile speed cameras across the state.
    […..]
    In the same time last year, that number topped 55,000.
    It's a staggering drop of 88 per cent.
    In May and June last year, one in every 311 vehicles passing a mobile speed camera was hit with a fine.
    This year, it was just one in every 1663."

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/speed-camera-fines-fall-inā€¦

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