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30% off Proton Mail Plus 2-Year US$78.96 (~A$119), 40% off Proton Unlimited 2-Year US$186.96 (~A$282) @ Proton Mail

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Was just poking around the Protonmail site and noticed this deal.

30% off the Mail plus account, 2 year plan, comes to around $129 aud and includes 15gb shared storage and the Proton Calendar. Includes support for 1 custom email domain, 10 email addresses, 10 hide-my-email aliases, calendar sharing, and more.

Or 40% off the Proton Unlimited account ( around $306 for 2 years) which gives you 500gb shared storage, Proton Calendar, Proton Mail, Proton Drive (Secure cloud storage with sync across devices, encrypted file sharing, and more), Proton VPN (Access blocked content and browse privately. Includes 2750+ servers in 65+ countries, connect up to 10 devices, access worldwide streaming services, malware and ad-blocker, and more. I haven't tried their VPN so can't comment on local speeds). and Proton Pass

Further details at the link. Plus you can pay in Bitcoin!

(edit: I initially had 'new subscribers only' in the title but on reading this email from ProtonMail that may have been incorrect. "We’re celebrating the ninth anniversary of our crowdfunding campaign by offering you exclusive discounts. For a limited time, get up to a 40% discount on our Proton Mail Plus and Proton Unlimited plans, whether you have been with us since the beginning or recently joined Proton." )

If you ever wanted to support independent private email companies then now is your chance…or wait 12 months for their 10 year anniversary deal!

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  • +2

    New subs only is disappointing

    • Corrected my post above, It may be for everyone else if I understood their email properly. Sorry for the confusion.

  • +1

    When I subscribed to the Proton Pass launch event, the Proton Unlimited was only $7.99 if I recall correctly.
    Not much of a discount on Proton Unlimited

  • +3

    I like Proton, but this sale is super misleading. They say it's 34% and 40% off, but considering the regular 24 month costs are $3.49 and $7.99 per month, this really is only a 20c per month discount (freaking $4.80 saving). Technically a deal, but barely…

  • +2

    How is the Protonmail better than free Gmail/Outlook?

    • +10

      If a product is free, you are the product.

      • -1

        @j1nx - are you implying that we shouldn't use Gmail & Outlook?

        • +10

          I've moved away from both.

          They basically give no privacy and scan your emails to target you with advertising and potentially various other things.

          There's nothing in their terms for example to provide your data to health insurers which could increase your premiums or count against you in a claim.

          Proton are entirely privacy focused and offer full end to end encryption so your data can't be harvested and sold/used.

          It all depends on how much you care about your data being harvested, which in my opinion, most people should care a lot more than they currently do.

          • +1

            @pauly85: Thanks for the insights.

          • @pauly85: This comes up all the time, but Google stopped scanning mail for advertising purposes something like 5 or 6 years ago. They have enough info from you from elsewhere to target advertising.

            Mail still gets scanned so they can do things like search and recommendations for calendar integration, and the like.

            Protons a good service but do look at what you give up by using it, such as not being able to use your own mail client on a mobile device, not being able to use your own calendar on both desktop or mobile, and lack of OS contacts integration. If that’s fine then it’s a good service, but it may be too much if a walled garden for some who want mail/calendar/contacts to integrate with their device or third party apps. There’s a definite trade off.

            • +1

              @Smigit: Oh it's definitely a trade off and not for everyone, I agree.

              I trust Google as far as I can throw them though so I'll never go back to Gmail.

            • @Smigit: Do you have any links about how Google stopped marketing based on email? I’m interested because it implies that Google are offering the service for free when it has a large cost to them (developers working on Gmail, hosting, data, etc). It’s free to use because they use the data we provide for marketing purposes.

              I have Protonmail accounts and I am not a big fan of their email client on iOS. It works well, it just has delays opening, etc. But I am a big fan of what they are doing.

              I also use Posteo (posteo.de), which costs EUR1/mo, and you can use your own email client (IMAPS/SMTPS). Encrypted inbox, etc. Based in Germany. It’s great, highly recommend.

              • +1

                @Corgsta: Articles such as https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html

                I’m not saying they don’t advertise or that they offer the service for free, they have ads placed in gmail which are targeted from your other data, but not from scanning emails for advertising purpose. Advertisers pay per an adclick, so they’re making money. To use Gmail you need to be logged in to your account, at which point they have access to a stack of information from Google search results, Youtube traffic, and the like, so they don’t need your emails to build up a personalised profile.

                The above article links to this https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in…

                G Suite’s Gmail is already not used as input for ads personalization, and Google has decided to follow suit later this year in our free consumer Gmail service. Consumer Gmail content will not be used or scanned for any ads personalization after this change. This decision brings Gmail ads in line with how we personalize ads for other Google products. Ads shown are based on users’ settings. Users can change those settings at any time, including disabling ads personalization. G Suite will continue to be ad free.

                Note this is from 2017

              • +1

                @Corgsta: They still include ads in Gmail, they just stopped using the data in your emails for it.
                https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603
                https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/technology/gmail-ads.html
                https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/23/15862492/google-gmail-adv…

                They sell enough Gmail to corporates to pay for the dev these days though I’m pretty sure they now use it mainly as a hook to keep you logged into your account.

                They may not scan your emails but they sure as hell know what prompts you to check them and where your eyes go on the page.

                • @danlibbo: Thanks, and to @Smigit.

                  Yeah I feel that they might have some shady ways to still peer into emails, such as when they pass through their email gateways, or when it’s displayed on the screen. Maybe not though.

                  As far as I also remember, any content hosted by them (uploaded by people), or that pass through their system becomes owned by them.

    • +3

      From the link:

      No ads. Privacy by default.
      We use zero-access and end-to-end encryption so that no one can decrypt, access, share or monetize your data.

      Security through transparency
      Our products are open source: they have been independently audited for security by thousands of experts around the world.

      Heaps more info here: https://proton.me/mail

    • +6
      1. Enhanced Data Privacy: Unlike mainstream email providers like Gmail or Outlook, privacy-focused providers like ProtonMail do not scan your emails for advertising purposes or other data harvesting techniques. This greatly increases your privacy and ensures that the content of your emails is only visible to you and your correspondents.

      2. End-to-End Encryption: ProtonMail provides end-to-end encryption, meaning that your emails are encrypted on your device before they reach ProtonMail servers. Therefore, even if someone manages to intercept your emails, they won't be able to read them because they're encrypted.

      3. Server Location: ProtonMail's servers are located in Switzerland, a country known for its strong privacy laws. This means that your data is protected by Swiss law, which has more robust privacy protections compared to many other countries.

      4. No IP Logging: Unlike many other email providers, ProtonMail does not keep IP logs that could be used to identify you. This is especially beneficial for those who are particularly concerned about maintaining their online anonymity.

      5. Open Source Transparency: ProtonMail's software is open source, meaning that its code can be audited by anyone. This transparency gives users more confidence in the platform's security and privacy practices. Unlike proprietary software, open source software can be reviewed and inspected by the global community for any hidden vulnerabilities or intentional backdoors.

      It's important to remember that no system can offer 100% security or privacy, but using a privacy-focused email provider like ProtonMail significantly reduces the amount of personal data that is at risk of exposure compared to mainstream email providers.

      • chatGPT?

        • yes for sure, ChatGPT FTW

          prompt "Please outline the top 5 reasons while using a privacy focused provider for email such as protonmail is better than gmail or outlook"

    • +1

      Basically the way gmail etc. work is they 'sell' your profile to serve you adds.

      Also part of the 5 eyes, so your data/emails etc. can be searched by governments

      Proton mail is EU based, fully encrypted, no adds, so actually has privacy

      • Im skeptical that it is not collected by the 5 eyes network though. Do you have any sources for that?

        • Reasonable question and good to be sceptical. My understanding is that with functioning end-to-end encryption, the content of your data is not accessible to spies. TOR takes this to an extreme but if Protonmail is hosted in Switzerland and they don't respond to intelligence requests from Five Eyes countries, the content of your emails are inaccessible to them, unlike Apple, Google, Microsoft et al who willingly comply and share your sensitive data without your consent or knowledge.

  • also consider Melbourne-based provider Fastmail, with better usability but reduced (though still good) privacy and security features, compared with Proton Mail:

    • +1

      Melbourne-based

      That's not a good thing unless we are talking about manufacturing

    • +1

      I believe this long standing deal still works for 25% off

      https://www.fastmail.com/1password

    • I'm with fastmail but actually thinking of moving away. I just want to be able to easily search for emails by either who its from or what the content of it is, fastmail never returns what I'm looking for and it's infuriating.
      I assume proton is the same and what I'm looking for requires Gmail scanning my email content or something.

      • Unsure how to address the contents based searching, but for mail from a person, do you use the FROM:<name> syntax?

  • I have been just looking today to move away , im tired of the ads

  • I got the Visionary Plan when they last offered it. They have really upped their game on the new services they have been rolling out.

  • uBlock Origin + Privacy Badger = No ads for me.

    • Add Cookie Autodelete, Decentraleyes to those too.

      • Decentraleyes hasn't been updated in 18 months.

  • this is not for email hosting with a custom domain right?

    • Can if you like. The 'plus' plus comes with 1 domain. IIUC

  • Just keep in mind Proton mail are on record as having given logs to governments, and if you pay for something with a credit card it can still be linked to you.

    Privacy from ads/data scraping ≠ privacy from intelligence agencies.

    I don't know how many OzBargainers are trying to sell state secrets, but keep it in mind

    • +4

      Were you referring to this?

      https://www.welivesecurity.com/2021/09/07/protonmail-log-use…

      "“In this case, Proton received a legally binding order from Swiss authorities which we are obligated to comply with. There was no possibility to appeal this particular request. As detailed in our transparency report, our published threat model, and also our privacy policy, under Swiss law, Proton can be forced to collect information on accounts belonging to users under Swiss criminal investigation. This is obviously not done by default, but only if Proton gets a legal order for a specific account,” said Proton CEO Andy Yen in a blog post explaining the details of the incident.

      However, he did highlight that ProtonMail’s encryption cannot be bypassed and that the company doesn’t give data to foreign governments, and it only complies with “legally binding orders from Swiss authorities”. The email provider also maintains that it doesn’t know the identity of its users due to its strict privacy measures.

      Yen acknowledged that development is concerning; however, he emphasized that the company does fight for its users, “Few people know this (it’s in our transparency report), but we actually fought over 700 cases in 2020 alone. Whenever possible, we will fight requests, but it is not always possible.”
      "
      ProtonMail’s public disclosures also log an alarming rise in requests for data by Swiss authorities.

      According to its transparency report, ProtonMail received 13 orders from Swiss authorities back in 2017 — but that had swelled to over three and a half thousand (3,572!) by 2020.

      The number of foreign requests to Swiss authorities which are being approved has also risen, although not as steeply — with ProtonMail reporting receiving 13 such requests in 2017 — rising to 195 in 2020.

      The company says it complies with lawful requests for user data but it also says it contests orders where it does not believe them to be lawful. And its reporting shows an increase in contested orders — with ProtonMail contesting three orders back in 2017 but in 2020 it pushed back against 750 of the data requests it received.

      As an end-to-end encrypted email provider, it cannot decrypt email data so is unable to provide information on the contents of email, even when served with a warrant.

      “If they were using Tor or ProtonVPN, we would have been able to provide an IP, but it would be the IP of the VPN server, or the IP of the Tor exit node,” Yen told TechCrunch when we asked about this.?"

      I'm not aware of any other half decent email providers who can do batter than that (happy to be corrected). But even if they did give the guy's IP address to big bother they wouldn't have got access to his encrypted emails?

      Anyway, I guess that's still better than having our data scraped and monitored routinely. :)

      • +1

        can do batter than that (happy to be corrected)

        *better

        Just kidding, excellent and informative comment mate.

  • +1

    There's never total privacy. Don't do anything illegal on their servers.

    • Exactly. This service should be thought more as a premium alternative to big data where you are just a unit of advertising. It should be more thought about data ownership than privacy.

  • +1

    Can you create disposable email addresses with proton?

  • I'm using icloud with a custom domain for me and my family. Anybody have any insights about icloud as a mail provider and whether I should consider paying more for something like proton? TIA

    • +1

      Being Apple I assume all of your data belongs to them just like with most other cloud services but someone more familiar with that platform might have more info.

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