seems good for the price, obviously no monitor but I can pick a decent one up cheap.
i7, 16 gb ram, 4 gig graphics. mainly want it for gaming so seems good at $899
http://www.visiontech.com.au/index.php/computers/desktops/88…
Good Gaming Machine at Vision tech? advice?
spuddy9595 on 29/08/2012 - 12:07
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Yes, the graphics card was a budget one at best when it was released over a year ago. That machine won't be playing the latest games well at all. Seems that all the visiontech "gaming" PCs listed are terrible for the price and the subsequent performance that you would get.
why not try building one, I reckon it will be a lot more fun than just using it.
i7 or i5 may not be that obvious in real-gaming experience.
Try picking parts you like from some pc website and you end up with a cpu that you like inside out, and you will know how it works inside out.
thanks for the info guys. yeh I actually did build my own pc when i was about 18 many years ago now but haven't really thought about doing it again, i guess worried about parts getting "zapped" etc when trying to build it. It's probably a good idea though and would probably save 2-300 on building it myself.
Anyone got suggestions for CPU/Motherboard, Video Card? I have also heard the i5 and i7 there is very little difference for gaming.
Cheers
Also is it really worth spending extra on a SSD instead of a regular HD? or is it just the noice factor and access time?
Buy an anti-static bracelet if you are worried about parts getting zapped. Some stores will also build a PC for you out of the parts you want for under a $100. For gaming the graphics card is the most important part and yes i5 vs i7 is negligible. I think an SSD is worth it, you really notice how zippy everything feels. Place the OS and a few games on it and for everything else get a large conventional HD.
As for parts have a look over this as a guide http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_sg_whirlpoolpcs_gaming_conf…
Take home message from this: even the high end options only have an i5 and 8G ram, but will significantly outperform your first option.
thanks, ideas for a good Video Card? approx cost? I am sort of looking around $1000 total cost
for 1k you can put together a decent box.
try something like this for a mini ITX, you can then start trimming it up / down to your favour. pay attention to power supply and GPU.
bitfenix prodigy
P8H77-I
I5-3570
CX430
16GB 1333
optical drive
Intel SSD 330 180GB
1: Building your own is fine, but if you don't want to lots of shops charge around $50 to put together a system + install OS of your choosing.
2: i7 as mentioned is overkill. Even the i3 is a very solid performer and competes with high end AMD for gaming. The extra cores from the i5 will help you in newer (yet to come out) games I expect. I recommend against the 'K' series, where you pay more for overclocking, unless you are very keen you are better off saving the money or just buying the next CPU up. Also note there are low power versions, avoid these unless it is something you want.
3: SSD is the best things ever.
4: On video cards with your budget I personally would be looking at the 7950 ($300ish).
5: If you go with Intel CPU it is pretty hard to go wrong with motherboard. If you get a 3rd gen CPU (numebr starts with 3) then you probably want the current motherboard chipset too (starts with letter then 7, ie 'B75', 'Z77'). Which one probably makes no difference to you.
My build recommendation:
Intel i5 3570K (leave overclocking as a possibility in the future, if you prefer. I know I'd be kicking myself if I bought a non-K model, and later on down the track decided I wanted to overclock) Price difference between non-K and K is fairly inconsequential in the long run.8GB Corsair Vengeance RAM (8GB should be fine for gaming - I only have 3.5GB DDR2, and I very rarely crash on any game on high settings (if it is, its Skyrim because of mod problems) If you want more, you can always upgrade in the future. (Corsair Vengeance is just a personal preference, but I do know a lot of people use it in gaming systems. Oh, and make sure the RAM is 1600MHz
Asrock Z77 Pro4-M (Overclocking enabled)
Look to WhirlPool about a CPU, a lot of people there are quite knowledgeable on the topic. I would recommend mainly on not cutting corners with the brand - there's some real crap ones out there.
60GB (120GB) SSD - 60GB is enough to store W7 on, so you can use the extra money on other things. 120GB would be good to have, if you want to store some games on there, so they load faster. But if would get pretty full pretty quick, and the load difference wouldn't be that substantial. I'd go for Intel 330 or Samsung 830 if you want price vs brand reliability. Go Crucial if you can't find a discounted Intel or Samsung.
WD Green HDD - if the 5400RPM doesn't bother you too much. They're fairly cheap, so if you're looking for budget storage space…
XFX HD7850 - should be all you need for going, now at least. You can always upgrade later on, quite easily.
As for the case, just pick whatever you like. Only you'll know what you like the look of, and what you don't, so I won't bother suggesting any. (I myself look towards Fractal and Lian Li myself, though I don't have one of either).
All up: I would recommend against cutting corners on the CPU and MB - they're the hardest to upgrade of your system, and they'll (hopefully) last you a long time.
This is just my opinion, but a two points:
1: The cost of an over clocking system is at least a premium for the CPU and motherboard, often plus cooling costs. In most cases people never actually use it. Even if they did, as discussed earlier CPU speed doesn't actually matter.
2: I can't back the idea about not cutting corners on a motherboard. As long as it has an Intel chipset, they are all the same in function and performance. Only differences being when you want to do things like overclock or run 6 video cards (see point 1).
Thanks for all the help and advice guys I have taken note for when I am going to build
Cheers
The graphics on aren't impressive at all, the 1TB is probably WD Green, the psu is most likely generic one that will die out when warranty expires.
I'm no expert by any means, but when it comes to graphics, it's not all about how much memory it has.
Seems like they just got the cheapest parts that make the pc look good on paper. With the details they give, the cpu is the only good thing.
If you'd want a gaming machine you want to spend more on the graphics and less on the cpu.