Has Anyone Try These Smart Wall Sockets?

duluxe2000 on 10/06/2023 - 15:47
Last edited 11/06/2023 - 16:22 by 1 other user

Hi,

I'm looking at these smart sockets on AliExpress, for example.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004918131171.html

And might order dozens of them to replace the traditional sockets in my house. Wonder if anyone did this before and has any recommendation or anticipate any problems in the future ?

I'm also aware that Bunnings has Delta smart wall sockets however one of the comments stating that they don't have energy consumption monitor which is what I want the most.

Update 1: Since comment does not allow link, hows about this one which list the certificate (from SAA) https://a.aliexpress.com/_mK2YlEy

Update 2: Although it's not in DETA website nor Bunnings, after a quick trip to Bunnings I learnt that they have a product which has power meter (~80$) called Double PowerPoint With USB and Energy Meter. I will get this one instead. Thanks for everyone's inputs

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  • Lord Fart Bucket on 10/06/2023 - 15:50
    +4

    any problems in the future ?

    If the certificates aren't real (and it's ali express), they are technically not allowed to be used in Australia. If your house burns down to an electrical fire, you may find your insurance is void.

    Edit, looked in detail: there's no certification on these devices.

    • duluxe2000 on 10/06/2023 - 16:03

      Hi I just updated the post to list one seller which has the certificate. Guess I call SAA to see if it's real or not

      • Lord Fart Bucket on 11/06/2023 - 07:53

        The model you posted is ZGS001. Looking at the (poorly) scanned/pictures of the certificates, that model doesn't show on it. I will not use AliExpress for my in built electricals.

        As others have mentioned. Use at your own risk.

  • SBOB on 10/06/2023 - 16:02
    +1

    has any recommendation or anticipate any problems in the future ?

    getting an electrician to install them might be a challenge.
    Any future electrical issues and the lack of compliance certification could also be a problem

    • duluxe2000 on 10/06/2023 - 16:06

      See my updated post, one seller has the cer. Assume it's real (I will check), I guess sparkies won't have problem installing them ?

      • SBOB on 10/06/2023 - 17:17
        +1

        I guess sparkies won't have problem installing them ?

        depends if electrician wants the liability/issues/hassle of potentially dodgy certification imported electrical items.

        talk of similar items over here
        https://community.home-assistant.io/t/australia-electrically…

        SAA certificate doesnt necessarily mean much

  • c64 on 10/06/2023 - 16:16

    you would be better off with just the plug-in smart switches for ~$10 each?

    • duluxe2000 on 10/06/2023 - 16:24

      It's a bit ugly imho 😅

      • websterp on 10/06/2023 - 18:22

        Smart Switches, I get it. But why do you need to upgrade all double sockets to smart? How do you control a Kettle, Toaster. fan, Tv, etc, etc, etc. or anything with it's own built-in mechanical or electronic switching? If you really want them just go for touch only double GPOs from the same design and maybe one or two smart t(i.e. hard to reach places, behind TV, etc) for applications that makes sense and go crazy with smart light switches but from AliExpress? FK NO! Also if you plan to add that many wifi devices, your router will also need an upgrade as some cheap wifi routers (specially freebie ones from ISPs) have wifi client limits.

      • Protractor on 10/06/2023 - 20:03

        If you are seeking advice and then you reject it for aesthetics, then just buy the junk. I'm already smelling the rancid melting plastic just thinking about it.

  • shxhshzhz on 10/06/2023 - 17:46
    +3

    might be a good idea to look for something with AS/NZS standards certification such as AS/NZS 3112. Although there's no way of knowing if it is real or not on Aliexpress.

  • Protractor on 10/06/2023 - 20:02

    "or anticipate any problems in the future ?" I consulted my Acme crystal ball .

    The plastic they are made of it's likely to be crap, that is likely to fade,crumble,crack,discolour,honeycomb etc.The moving parts are likely to have a short life and be random in reliability. Apart from that use the basic senses you were born with to decide.

    Does it 'seem' to good to be true'?
    Do your REALLY need it?
    What do legit Australian reviews say?
    What is the companies history & reputation?
    . Will you gain physical exercise by NOT getting them?
    Will it require more brain work (exercise to beat off future dementia) to live without them?
    And here's the thing I was encouraged to never utter aloud at OZB (Jebus forgive me)
    Could the money be better spent? Or better saved?

    You're welcome.

    • duluxe2000 on 12/06/2023 - 00:44

      I think it's well-worth the money. For example, I can set my portable heater to turn off at 2am.

      • Lord Fart Bucket on 12/06/2023 - 08:36

        Or buy a heater with a timer switch. Or buy a timer switch.

  • JIMB0 on 10/06/2023 - 20:25
    +1

    They can't even get the pictures the right way up. The box on the back won't fit into a lot of wall boxes if you're replacing existing power points.

    • c64 on 11/06/2023 - 12:54

      they're chinese plugs, so the pictures are correct and the earth pin is on the top. possibly they could be installed upside down. however, i have a feeling the box is going to interfere with plaster c-clips

  • Euphemistic on 11/06/2023 - 08:01

    Aloexpress plus installed 240v gear don’t sit well with me. I’d rather pay more and buy quality locally for warranty purposes. I’d imagine they’d be hard to setup and unreliable.

    At least with the plug in smart thing you can easily pull it out and replace it when fails.

    But then, I don’t see the benefit of adding complexity to a mechanical switch either.

    • duluxe2000 on 12/06/2023 - 00:40

      You can, for example, enforce screen time/bedtime for kids and set it on a schedule 😁. You can't do that with a plug

      • Euphemistic on 12/06/2023 - 06:40

        Well, you could get off your ass and tell them it’s bedtime. Or give them enforces consequences for not turning off the device whe requested.

      • JIMB0 on 12/06/2023 - 08:56

        How's that going to stop them playing on a device with a battery?

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