Not ATL price but still a decent price.
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 8-Core/16 Threads, Max Freq 4.5GHz, 100MB Cache Socket AM4 105W, without cooler
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So you're saying I can't put this in my AM5 board?
You can’t, physically
Goes down to $467.40 for me. Am I doing it wrong?
Thats the total price, the 5800X3D should be around $460 and $7ish for the book
Am I crazy or does this seem overpriced?
It's specifically aimed for gaming. If you don't play fancy games, don't bother with it
way overpriced considering its age. tech is not wine/whisky.
However taking to account its performance not really still pretty good.
It has tremendous value due to being the fastest gaming CPU for AM4/DDR4 platform, and still keeps up with current gen GPUs. So I guess as long as there are still people on AM4 platform, this CPU price will unfortunately not drop much further.
The problem is, if this drops in price, AMD knows most people will not upgrade to next gen which are more expensive and fetches them chipset price as well with sale of new mobo.
While it matches the 7700 on aggregate, it's generally better in most games, so you need to know your specific use case, though it may age better depending on the DDR5 RAM the 7000 series chip is paired with.
They should be far more concerned with the price of a 13600K DDR5 build in any scenario.
It is, because gamers are often not as smart as they like to think they are.
It's only a 33% premium for the Ryzen 7800X3D, and the 7700/7700X are $50 cheaper, and yet this stays the same price as DDR5 and AM5 prices continue to drop.
It's also a 75% premium over the 5700X, which it only outperforms in specific games. Can only hope that there's going to be a price cut for mid-year sales.
It is overpriced, but not because gamers aren't smart. It's because it's the smart choice for people with existing AM4/DDR4 hardware and mid-high GPU like RX 6800/ RTX 4070 and up. If you need this level of CPU performance, do you pay ~$475 for a drop in upgrade which takes 10 mins to do, or do you go for a new build looking at ~$800?
Anyway outside of the above use case, I agree it doesn't make sense to buy this CPU for a new build. Budget build should go for 5600 pairing with a low-mid range GPU. High-end GPU should pair with 7600 and up.
It doesn't even make sense for most gamers, nor does the addition of the cache on the process cost 60% more in parts and R&D.
It stays at this price because people are blindly buying it based on 3 second recommendations.
So much Zen 3 run off from server orders, and yet people refuse to sit back 3 or 4 weeks and let global inventory build so AMD's hand is forced.
By the way it would be starting at $700 for the upgrade you're hinting at, probably down to $600 in a month. Gamers are not smart.
@jasswolf: Totally agree on the price gouging part. If it performs like a 7600 it should have been priced similar, but AMD can price gouging because AM4 owners faced with either do a full platform upgrade, or pay a bit overprice for the best CPU they can do a quick drop-in.
But performance wise 5800X3D has been proven multiple times on popular review channels like Hardware Unboxed or Gamer Nexus that it is way ahead of the rest of 5000 series, on a large number of games, especially 1% low number on all resolution from 1080 to 4k. So it does benefit vast majority of gamers even those not on highest end GPUs.
on a large number of games, especially 1% low number on all resolution from 1080 to 4k
On a subset of games, most of which receive little to no benefit, but there are some significant titles out there.
There is little to no difference at 4K, save for some edge cases. People should check the performance for their games before purchase, as the 5700X is sitting there at $270.
@jasswolf: I think you got it reversed, only a small subset of games that doesn't benefit from the 5800x3d, even on 4K.
Ryzen 7 5800X or 5800X3D? 41 Game Benchmark 1080p, 1440p & 4K and this is just last year data. All games release this year are a lot more CPU restricted and the gap grows even more. There are various smaller channels that does these kind of comparisons on different GPUs, but the results are almost always heavily in favor of the X3D part especially 1% low.
If you have a $1000+ GPU, no reason to settle for less than 5800x3d or 7600. Also not sure how you can get 7600 combo for $700
* CPU 7600 $350
* Board B650 $200 (I'd personally go for a bit more quality board ~$250)
* 32GB RAM 6000mhz CL32 $200 (cheapest available for this spec, but may not be compatible with all boards so most likely have to fork out a bit more for compatible kits)
@Kingduytan: You need to review your own source, which shows a 3% average benefit at 4K, largely the result of 3 games, and that 70% of games tested at QHD had single digit percentage improvements, or less.
That was on a 3090 Ti, so I'm failing to see benefit unless you have a 4080 or 4090, you're operating at 1080p and pushing for high frame rates, or you have specific games in mind for heavy use.
Also not sure how you can get 7600 combo for $700
* CPU 7600 $350
* Board B650 $200 (I'd personally go for a bit more quality board ~$250)
* 32GB RAM 6000mhz CL32 $200
That's because I was targeting a 7700 with an entry level AM5 board with 16GB RAM, which would in fact land at $670 in today's market. I added padding to account for decent VRMs for an 8-core with mild memory tweaks and PCIE 5.0 slots.
It's also a 75% premium over the 5700X
Now a 90% premium as of today's sales. This CPU should be sub-$400.
It's cheaper on shopping express by a couple of $$
nope.. needs to be sub $300 now…
AMD are just price gouging at this point…
say what?
edit: oh i see…
I don't think so, AM5 is still "better" than AM4; people that want the best will go 7800x3d and pay for the pleasure.
And overcharging for the 5800x3d to force people to upgrade to AM5 is not a great way to conduct business.
How is the Amazon US Warranty?
Does the 3 year AMD warranty not apply?
I would like to know as well. I noticed this "Manufacturer warranty may not apply but you may have other rights under law." in their terms.
Using 3600 right now, mostly for gaming and coding. Should I upgrade to this? Tempting but no idea if it’s worthy or not
Mostly depends on your GPU. If you have equivalent of RX 6800/RTX 4070 and higher, then go for this. Otherwise a 5600 will do just fine for your gaming needs (still a massive improvement over 3600), or 5700x if your coding workflow requires lots of processing power.
Edit: CA running a sales on ebay for even lower price across the board.
This is good upgrade only if you already have compatible motherboard and ddr 4 memory, go for 7600/7600x/7700/7700x for new build.