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How are these any better than Ikea Ladda's (HR06 2400mah, $12 for 4)
These are AAA, so I wouldn't say they're directly comparable with Ladda AA.
IKEA have the Ladda HR03 AAA 750mAh, which are more comparable to the regular eneloop AAAs.
Oops! Yes, thanks, I meant those. (HR03 AAA 1.2V, 750mAh, $8 for 4)
Rechargeable, so capacity not super important, and usually overstated on the higher capacity ones anyway
But taken at face value $10.67Ah vs $17.05Ah(s&s), or 37% less for ikea cells (Ah for Ah) - plus twice as many recharge cycles (theoretically) for Laddas
I'm just sad I didn't stock up on LADDA AAA 950mAh back when IKEA still sold them.
I think there is always premium to be paid for top of the market. But hard to pull the trigger on this when I got aforementioned LADDA for $10
@ripprind: I think there's some info out there basically saying there's only one factory in Japan that can make the specific low discharge cell or something that the LADDA/Eneloops are
https://www.slrlounge.com/panasonic-eneloop-vs-ikea-ladda-ar…
I would get the Laddas if they weren't $15 postage to where I am
Exactly this. People keep recommending the ladda (I see it on every deal) but there are no Ikea's anywhere near me and shipping kills it.
would have preferred the non-pro version but been waiting so long
Non pro version are similar price.
Why the non pro - these perform better in everyway.
For those of you downvoting me - check the Ikea 2450(eneloop pro) vs eneloop whies - https://youtu.be/-jXQNY6rve8?t=382
im of the believe non-pro last longer due to their ability to be recharged significantly more times than pro? or is that wrong?
That is true, but for most people, if they charge the battery once in 2 weeks, the PROs offer atleast 500 charge cycles. Thats 20 years worth of life. You get better discharge capacity and longer shelf life capacity.
@OP. Could not resist. ChatGPT with some subtle prompting. 5-7-5 structure for the Haiku aficionado's on OzB. ;)
Gentle whispers hum,
Eneloop, everlasting,
Blossom of power.
What charger is good for these?
Nitecore Digicharger D4
Xtar VC4 is what I use.
Great charger for Eneloops.
Are these any good in my sony tv remote
You'd be better off with the regular eneloop's or Ladda's. The Pro's have higher capacity, but also higher self discharge rates and are better suited to higher current draw devices.
Damn, I never knew this, I always thought the higher number the better. Been meaning to get some Laddas, now I won't know which ones to get.. I just want them for 'general use', I guess it's mainly powering kids toys and our electronic door handle.
I need to know what people recommend too.
Re: "won't know which ones to get.."
As the old English proverb goes:
A pack of 4 batteries in hand, is better than 2 at the shops.
Just grab a pack of whichever is cheaper including delivery or pick up costs. Either will be fine. If not you'll find another device to stick them in.
It really makes no difference in real life.
I've got a mix of pros and whites scatterers across lots of devices, some in remotes. Remotes are so low power, and LSDs are so long lasting, that they will last so long that it doesn't matter.
In fact, running LSDs in remotes doesn't really make financial sense anyway. Only reason I'm doing it is that I ran out of alkaline cells at home and couldn't be arsed running out to buy more cheap primaries.
Cheap primaries should last years in a remote.
@bleeder: Ah. LSD = Low Self Discharge (i.e. rechargable AA/AAAs that don't go flat on the shelf). Primary = single use battery (like the Duracells that you buy in packs at the supermarket).
Powering kids toys with motors that get used a lot (RC cars) use rechargables. For kids toys that are just beepy noises, remote controls, or for smart door locks, use disposable Duracells as they last for years anyway and cost less.
@rumblytangara: Ideally, just keep using rechargeables only regardless of use, so you're not contributing to landfill.
That is what the specs say, but the benchmarks on youtube says otherwise. Buy the PROS.
Ladda - Eneloop Pro.
only Panasonic TVs, I am afraid
Just the reply I was looking for.
Pretty sure that was a joke reply (Eneloops are made by Panasonic)
TV remotes use so little power, the 50% charge or so that you manage on (nearly all, but not all) Alkaline batteries is enough to keep them going another year or so.
I'm still on the Original 'Sony' brand Alkalines that came with my remote 6 years ago; I think they're on their 4th 75% recharge cycle.
Wait… what? Are we recharging alkaline batteries???
No real reason not to. It was a huge rage in the 90's with products like the "re-zap" and such; nothings really changed.
They suffer degradation MUCH faster than other chemistry; but so long as you're not greedy and only ask 50-75% of their original capacity, they rarely leak, and work quite well.
My best performing set are some AAA Varta cells which are on their 20th cycle of 60% charge capacity.
@MasterScythe: Also wtf. I didn't know this either.
Before I go look it up I'll ask- any risk of damaging the charger (eg battery leaks?) with this? I don't want to damage my Maha messing around with single use cells.
@rumblytangara: Yes, they have a higher chance of leaking.
Thats the difference wheen you buy Disposable Alakaline, or Rechargable Alkaline; one has a vented seal system.
Battery pressure Is totally reaction based (charge speed), so the slower the charger, the less likely things will go wrong.
I've never had a AA leak at 200mA for 4-6 hours (that'd be 50% capacity, roughly).
And obviously they'll never indicate full (or will indicate full 'instantly'); it's up to you to do that math of when they reach what charge capacity, and therefore to take them off.
If you dont have a hobby charger to set things; ReZap was always the 'king' of this.
https://rezap.com/shop/
Otherwise there's knockoffs on Ebay.
@MasterScythe: Nice, thanks.
I've got a hobby charger which I'll dig out and try. I guess having to try one cell at a time and faff with leads is better than running the risk of a leak in my Maha charger. I've got more Eneloops than I know what to do with, but this sounds fun.
I've been messing around casually with batteries on and off for years, and have somehow managed not to come across the idea of recharging primaries. This has really spun me out.
Best Haiku of the Year
Does Not even Exist
Until This Post
With wit and charm bright,
This post reigns as haiku king,
Laughter bursts in glee.
Good price, it's about 4x the capacity of the Xbox controller pack between two of them.
Need some batteries for last night's eufy Lumi Stick-on Night Light deal. Wonder how these will go.
AA EBL 20 pack HIGHER CAPACITY mA battery is on sale too for $37 ish I think
I bought these last September but they drain really fast, within 2 weeks. That doesn't seem right. I use them for indoor sensor lights (since there don't appear to be any sensor lights that use aa batteries available)
That seems odd. Have you tried some non rechargeable ones to see if they drain just as quick? If they don't, then yours are faulty andissue a return with Amazon. If the non rechargeable ones drain juat as quick then it's your sensor light. Which one do you have?
Yeah, I've tried non rechargeable ones and they drain a bit faster than my aaa pros. I can't remember what the sensor light is called but it's circular with LEDs and uses 3 AAAs per light. It could very well be the sensor light, hmm
Yeah it's definitely your sensor light draining the batteries, nothing wrong with your envelope.
I bought a bunch of these. Commentary suggest they get good battery life, 6 mths or more
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/778389
Then I went looking for batteries for them and found them cheap on Amazon hence I created this post.
Could be OK'ish (but still very fast?) depending on light output and frequency of on/off and time spent on….personally bought some puck lights from an SCA special which output far more lumens than the old Xiaomi/Blitzwolf pucks. Consequently far less (rechargeable) battery life.
I thought they were ok but my eneloop slightly slower than normal batteries.
How many lumens are your lights? Link? I may need to replace mine
Sorry, can't find the old reference, certain it was a one off though.
I have a couple of Ladda batteries but lost the charger for them… Can anyone suggest a good alternative charger?
I don't live near and Ikea anymore
Tempted to grab some more.