Who can receive the household electricity credit?
The WA Government is delivering a minimum $400 Household Electricity Credit to every household across the State as part of the 2023-24 Budget, helping to ease cost of living pressures.
How do I get the electricity credit?
The credit will be automatically applied to your Synergy or Horizon Power account, split over two equal payments in the July/August and November/December billing cycles.
Haven't you Victorians gotten $500 just to compare your electricity providers? Gotten it twice i think.
*$250 for comparing each time
250 x 2 = $500
No he will complain that Dan is wasting money
There's jobs everywhere, let's encourage people to be productive and make money rather than hold their hands out shall we?
can afford it after capping public servant annual wage increases to $1000 per year for 4 years while cost of living sky rockets.. only just started getting % increases last year.. good work McClown
Imagine getting handed free $400 and you're still crying in the comments
Anything from the government isn't free if you're a tax payer.
Yeah ikr? So many upvotes for this ridiculous logic.
@pharcyde: In other countries people pay taxes too, they dont get no $400
Someone knows better than you, open your mind, dont ridicule.
It's like a sadistic form of cashback.
In countries people pay taxes too but they get no free $400 mate
Get a good job /s - Joe Hockey (former liberal pollie)
“Go get a job” - Paul Keating (Thus showing true bipartisanship)
technically only the last 2 years saw inflation - it was minus % the year before
This changed last year,
But yes, we did have a decade of almost zero wage growth.
Yes it is slightly unusual for a Labor government to not look after its traditional voter base in the public service in the normal, partizan way and instead pursue an egalitarian policy that looks after the interests of wider society, agnostic of people's wealth or income. This move basically assumes that people like you will keep voting Labor regardless, so that Labor can hold onto the people it has won over solely due to Covid measures and a bit of state-based parochialism. Now that he's resigned, I reckon the shine will fade fast on that government and things will return to normality in terms of WA being a conservative, Liberal state - particularly in the regions. WA's best option is to revive the call for secession and set itself up more like the UAE or Norway with a sovereign fund to guarantee its long term prosperity that is funded by the retention of taxes that overwhelmingly head east at present.
VIC has already given $500 for people for comparing their energy providers, and you could spend it on anything.
Username checks out.
In WA we’ve already been credited with $1000 on our electricity bills during covid.
This is what happens when the state still owns the utilities. You get what you vote for.
Dumb ass Liberals selling it off in Vic. Probably to mates.
There's democracy in Aust? Where? 🤔
Western Australia I guess. 😉
@soda-pop: See how good voting is. The democracy of Oz bargains shows is how no one here agrees with you. Neg’d into oblivion.
@soda-pop: No idea what that means. But my grandfather is full blood Noongar which makes me 1/4 indigenous. But I’m happy just to identify as Australian and honour all my ancestors.
Only just used up the last of my credit on last cycle's bill, so good timing on this one,
We just went around doing business as usual here. Think our longest lockdown was 2 weeks. We really enjoyed those two weeks as we felt like we got to “experience” the covid we saw the eastern states have.
Went up and did Broome and some of the Kimberly. Then the next year went to Christmas Island. Finally saw some of our own WA backyard.
Yep. We went to Exmouth and Coral Bay for the first time - and what a trip it was.
I didn't particularly agree with a lot of what went on with all the lockdowns but that was out of my control (and I didn't vote for McGowan anyway), so we made the most of what we had to put up with. I love where I live as well so being stuck at home was no real downside for me.
Sounds like a wonderful time - good
geography and time not your strong suit i see
jabroni.. ""geography"" if you are talking about christmas island not being located in the land mass W.A you are right
BUT christmas island is a Shire of Western Australia.
If you are not talking about that then what do you mean?
Thank you
@grog: umm the original poster [MyWifeHasThe Wallet] said "Was being locked down for 2 years a great experience for you?"
we in WA were never locked down for 2 years so hes clearly got WA mixed up with some other part of the world
capiche?
@jabroni: Ah yes i remember the very short lockdowns clearly.
Working from home is a great idea….
thank you
@grog: I remember the 2 weeks where I still had to go in to work and the commute was an absolute dream with no-one on the roads, and then when actually at work just get paid to sit around doing nothing because 99% of the public were at home. And I got paid an extra $1000/wk 'danger pay' for it. It was awesome.
Working from home is a great idea….
Sure, workers win; but, egomaniacs, yearning to micro-manage them, lose. Common sense be damned, we'll return to bad old days soon enough.
This neg IS PERSONALLY FROM ALL MELBOURNRIANS
I wonder if we will get a 500 Yuan handout in SA…
No mate. This what happens when you have ~$100bn worth of iron ore leaving the state at higher than expected prices. Same as the last round of electricity credits.
The actual price of energy inastructure and power generation costs are skyrocketing in WA, same as everywhere else.
So glad most of the $$$ is lining the pockets of mining magnates rather than going into some Norway-esque wealth fund to help the state ride out the busts of being a mining economy.
There is no mining magnate at the two largest miners. BHP and Rio Tinto are owned by shareholders. That's most Australians (supperannuation).
According to annual reports collectively those two also paid ~A$31 billion in taxes and royalties in 2022, just in Australia. Mining isn't Energy or Big Tech (they don't funnel profits offshore). Hence why WA and the eastern states are constantly fighting over just the royalty component: it's huge.
@Viper8: Mike Henry earns US7.5M, Jakob Stausholm earns US5.2M p/a both include stock and options - that's magnates in my book.
@AlexF: True. But I doubt these companies would be anywhere near as successful as they are if they paid peanuts to the individuals calling the shots. Their total pay is less than 0.1% of total profits, and less than 0.1% of the taxes and royalties. They're also paid significantly less compared to people in similar positions at equivalently sized and performing companies in the US and Europe. Depends on your perspective I guess.
@Cheapskate Paul: Yep. And most of the iron ore $$$ does not line their pockets or run through their businesses, as per OP/ Gdsamp's comment.
From the ABC just now:
"Underpinning WA's latest windfall has been the continued strength of the iron ore price, which the government assumed would only average $US77 a tonne in 2022-23 but has rarely traded below $US90/t.
Every $US1 increase in the value of the iron ore price adds an extra $81 million to the state's coffers over a year, according to budget papers."
Why can't they all agree and invest this money to build green energy plants, so it'll bring the electricity prices down for everyone in the long run?
Coz they’re dogs
But I agree 100%
It not enough money.
Do you mean covering the surface of entire Australia with scenic solar panels and bird-attracting wind turbines?
Ahm go back to your aus_cookers Facebook group
Reddit is that way, Chatbot >>>
Oh, absolutely! Who needs cleaner, renewable solar energy when we have such beautiful, untouched scenery in Australia's interior. After all, we wouldn't want to spoil the picturesque view of the barren desert and red dirt with some pesky solar panels. Won't someone please think of the dingos and lizards?
C'mon cakez, that Great Barrier Reef isn't bleached enough for renewables yet. I want it to blind the fish
@SpainKing: https://www.aims.gov.au/information-centre/news-and-stories/…
The northern and central Great Barrier Reef have recorded their highest amount of coral cover since the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) began monitoring 36 years ago.
I'm 100% for renewables that don't include Lithium batteries.
Who is going to clean the red dirt off the Solar panels to keep them effective?????
@fishing: Hmm dunno actually, maybe we could re-direct a portion of the generated current to an array of air jets to periodically clean the surfaces off.
Not enough roof space on all the buildings in the CBD's apparently…
The irony is that so-called green energy is anything but. Many commercial greenhouses use propane CO2 generators to boost production or you wouldn't have tomatos in Coles or they would be much more expensive.
In primary school, I learned that tree rings prove trees grow faster in high CO2 environments. Plants use the carbon (C) in CO2 to build their structure and release the oxygen (O2), allowing us to oxidize and generate fuel for functioning. Nature stores solar energy in hydrocarbons, which act as perfect natural batteries. CO2 is heavier than nitrogen (N) and oxygen (O2), and consequently, it exists as a very thin layer @ concentrations of ~0.04%, usually only about 1 meter off the ground with no wind, making it perfect for plants to absorb.
At 1 atmosphere pressure and 25c, the specific heat capacity of CO2 gas is approximately 0.846 J/g°C or 37.11 J/mol°C, reducing with pressure.
Lithium is medically used to reduce cognitive function. The polymers used as electrolytes is extremely toxic and the primary reason your are requested not to dispose of batteries in general waste. Separators are different types of polymers, ie plastic sheets. The galvanized steel, not too bad, but the galvanic process is toxic.
Sorry folks ran out of Brawndo (it has electrolytes) and my Soma, pls ignore my ignorant rants I also need a booster.
Let me turn on the ABC and refill… I'm back, CO2 has infinite heat coefficient and Lithium is good… obey!
Do you always start your sentences talking about how green energy isn't green? Because the rest of it doesn't do anything to address/support that point. It just seems like the insane ramblings of someone who recently watched Idiocracy and thinks they're smarter than society (and all the doctors and scientists within it)
@SpainKing: My apologies for any confusion, let me attempt to elucidate the concepts in a more mundane manner… Carbon dioxide, commonly referred to as CO2, plays an integral role in the process of photosynthesis, is the primary building molecule for all vegetation and releases oxygen so it can be consumed by all animals, thereby fostering the verdant lushness of our planet.
On the other hand, Lithium, a key component in the contemporary renewable energy industry, is obtained through strip mining, a practice that is inherently deleterious to the environment. This process is antithetical to the concept of being 'green', as it leads to the obliteration of natural verdancy.
Additionally, solar panels, despite being instrumental in harnessing renewable energy, exhibit a physical coloration that is black, hence, they do not literally embody the color 'green'.
Please let me know if you are still failing to comprehend any of the above concepts, I will attempt to dumb it down further for you.
@raybies: help me understand this - because plants use carbon dioxide, the current amount of carbon dioxide emissions are good and considered green. By the same logic, since humans need water to survive.. you drinking 20 gallons of water a day should beneficial to your health?
@yrae: That's a faulty equivalence - 1000ppm CO2 isn't going to kill them like drinking 20L of water is a human. Some greenhouses pump massive amounts of CO2 into the controlled atmosphere to increase plant growth. In earth's past there were orders of magnitude more CO2 and plants thrived on it. Anybody who tells you they know how plant-life or atmospheric greenhousing will react to a return of CO2 levels to those of 100 million years ago is full of shit, their extrapolations are so flimsy. And at our current rate, we won't find out for another 200-300 years, if we keep "polluting" as we are.
@raybies: While it was certainly mundane it still doesn't feel like it was making a point
Carbon dioxide, commonly referred to as CO2, plays an integral role in the process of photosynthesis, is the primary building molecule for all vegetation and releases oxygen so it can be consumed by all animals, thereby fostering the verdant lushness of our planet.
The sun plays another integral role in the process of photosynthesis but you seem upset that we as humans have managed to make use of it too. Carbon dioxide is good for plants to a point but if the atmosphere was 100% CO2 it wouldn't be possible for them to grow because:
A) They need oxygen for their cells to function
B)The planet would be too hot/inhospitable for them (or just about anything) to survive
We've known that an abundance of CO2 is bad for the planet since the 1900s so please get with the times
On the other hand, Lithium, a key component in the contemporary renewable energy industry, is obtained through strip mining, a practice that is inherently deleterious to the environment. This process is antithetical to the concept of being 'green', as it leads to the obliteration of natural verdancy.
Do you know what a key component of non-renewable energy is? Because it seems you've forgotten that all that coal, oil and gas needs to be mined as well. Have a look at an oil rig or open cut mine and see how verdant and green that looks. Alternatively take a look at the majority of Australia and see how naturally the country is a desert and doesn't have this "natural verdancy" that renewables would immediately strip our great red land of
Additionally, solar panels, despite being instrumental in harnessing renewable energy, exhibit a physical coloration that is black, hence, they do not literally embody the color 'green'.
Paint them green then. Alternatively stop being obtuse and make an actual point rather than trying to argue with the fanciest words your thesaurus can help you think of. "Solar panels are black so it's not green energy" sure is an argument but it's a hill I think you'll be quite lonely dying on
Please let me know if you are still failing to comprehend any of the above concepts, I will attempt to dumb it down further for you.
Don't worry mate. Seems like you got enough lithium in you already
Lithium is medically used to reduce cognitive function
Why not selling coal cheap within the country instead of focusing on exporting overseas?
I live in WA and I have to agree. I see this come out and look it up the details and see the Govt. has written an unbelievably enormous cheque to Synergy, just like last time. They're telling me to be grateful, I don't have to pay $400 in power, I should be THANKFUL, as they hand over millions to Synergy at the stroke of a pen :-( All the staff at Synergy receivables must be booking LONG holidays in Lombok.
Honestly put it towards renewables, or a children's hospital, I'll turn the lights off for a month if it helps. Stop handing Millions to huge companies (government owned or not) and telling the general public they should say thank you…
Clive Palmer will cry too much
Miss the big battery news? Two of them SOR.
We should be building nuclear power stations. A reliable, proven and safe form of carbon free electricity. Unlike green power, nuclear is 'dense power' and only occupies a very small amount of land. The output can be controlled. Build them on/next to decomissioned coal power plants and use the existing transmission lines.
I'm sick of this not being on the table because Politian's fear they will lose votes from the loud minority. .
It's not the worst idea but I think the time when nuclear was economically attractive has passed. Renewable energy is and will be cheaper, we just need to develop storage options.
Cash out encourages spending, which then creates inflation, thn higher interest rates, then rent goes up mortgages goes up, thn more cash outs… Never ending cycle… people always find the easy way out rather thn solve the issue…. kudos..
The credit will be automatically applied to your Synergy or Horizon Power account
If everyone gets it and it's done automatically, is it really a deal? Surely a forum post would suffice.
Just posted the same thing…. What counts as a 'deal' is really a very low bar these days.
Love a bonus that isn't means tested, tough going being an average Oz bargainer on $400k never getting a tax break!
Such a hard life on 400k
Ah yes, print more money! That'll fix the inflation issue
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The credit will be automatically applied to your Synergy or Horizon Power account
Not sure why this is even posted as a deal. Its a forum post at best. As you have to do nothing to get it, it happens automatically and open to WA people.
holy potato's! whAaat?!?
15 Free RAT tests per household also with free delivery!
Jobseeker rate was increased too. Quick someone post a deal!!
Job seekers should really be turned into tyres, to use on our cars..
grabs popcorn
Heh two houses $400 X 2. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Should be for synergy accounts longer than 5 years so it is for long term WA residents.
So there are Coal and Gas price caps, coal plant closures and nuclear bans to hinder supply. Then bulk stimmies to boost demand…?
We knew Airbus Albo and the Labor party were economically reckless, but no idea it was this laughable.
Jesus we need to get people off Sky News
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