$200 off iphones.
Looks like low prices keep coming, all sizes and all colours of both iPhone 14 and 14 plus all having $200 off, even lower than David Jones deal 2 days ago. HODL or wait till next month EOFY even cheaper? Time to go OW for price match? or wait, they react quick already and adjusted their prices too!
Ok
Must be going for this months most negged comment award.
jv won't be happy about that.
Finally I beat him/her
That's a very good deal. Why was the seller so desperate? I hope for you it wasn't solen.
It might have been an exclusive PayID deal. It's probably coming via Fedex today.
lol
Picked up from a very dodgy Maccas car park actually
@Wiadro: nor did they know any of the recovery emails, two-factor auth or the phone number of the very phone they sold you, heh
@Wiadro: Nice, nothing like a carpark pickup.
My only memorable Gumtree pickup was a computer case. We met at 9pm in a poorly lit car park.
@Wiadro: Sounds like a 7/7 experience. Worth doing just for the story.
Though, not all car park meets go to plan.
Lol, there’s definitely something wrong with it. If it was in good condition, they could have gotten $400 through Mobile Monster. You didn’t get a bargain, you got scammed, you just don’t realise it yet.
OZB is not an airport apron. You don't need to announce intention or completion of activities.
But how else is he supposed to announce he got scammed, and then post on the OzB forums how to turn off the "This iPhone has been locked because it has been reported stolen" notification on his lock screen?
"The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone."
Why would I defend someone gloating/bragging about a bargain no-one else can get? This is commonly regarded as a faux-pas in the OzBargain community
Things that never happened!
no love for the Pro?
Pro price $100 discount removed.
Seriously overpriced. Should boycott apple products.
Some people's cars cost less than this.
Don’t know what you’re getting in the used car market these days for under a grand. Can near guarantee it won’t be running and/or registered.
Rust covered with duct tape seems to be reasonably common in that price range.
A relative who sold their car for approximately 1 iPhone had a cracked windshield from rust, but was OK mechanically otherwise. Still, I can't imagine it passing the next rego check.
Bought a 2002 lancer with 55xxx kms (genuine) for 1000 with 3 months registration and roadworthy 8 months ago. The car also has a complete service history from
New too.
Not sure what you are talking about.
@boydbino: Sure champ, nice work. Not sure why you felt the need to dig up a six week old comment to post this haha
@NedStark102: Thanks! It was a very good deal, unsure as to why you would neg my comment though.
Probably because you live in the world of make believe
And their cars are shit. What's your point?
You can get few bicycles for the family & run for decades :) Mine is ~20y & hardly any maintenance - superior to Apple obsolescence strategy :(
Show me a phone that lasts longer than an iPhone. They last a long time if you’re not clumsy or enticed by the latest release. The Nokia 3310 might have been bulletproof but it’s only a phone and won’t connect to 3-5G networks.
@akerr: All my Samsung S series phones have lasted me 5 years easily, 6 years if I treated them well.
@try2bhelpful: 4 major OS updates for 4 years and 5 years security updates. Given I can buy 2 S devices with the price of 1 iPhone, it's fair to double those numbers to have a fair comparison :)
@Rimas: Still nowhere near what Apple does in relation to updates. Me, I’ve currently got an XS and will hold onto it until the iOS updates runout, which should be another couple of years. However, my phone is, mainly, a hotspot and a camera. The devices that get the daily workout are the Apple Watch and the iPad. It is the total ecosystem that is the reason I stay with Apple. I, also, but the previous years phone when they drop in price.
@try2bhelpful: The earliest iPhone that can be upgraded to iOS 16 (released in 2022) is iPhone 8 which was released in 2017, so 5 years of OS updates for iPhone. Very impressive but Samsung is not too much behind with 4 years on the table and 5 years of minor OS updates. I trade in my old S device and get the latest model for circa 850 bucks out of pocket and rinse and repeat this every 5 years. The apple ecosystem I applaud and give you that one but updates wise, apple is no longer the king give how much it charges for its iPhones.
@Rimas: We pay, roughly, $1,000 for the phone and sell the old one for $250 so not much different to the Samsung. I trade them off just before the iOS change runs out. I could go much lower if I got the SE. As I said the phone is probably the thing I use least. I’ve waited over 50 years to get my Dick Tracey watch and the iPad means I barely get out my PC. The iPADs are brilliant when travelling. The biggest decision on what phone to get is the Camera, otherwise the phone is mostly what I need to use my other devices. Most of the day my phone sits in my bag.
@akerr: Almost 9 year old Galaxy Note 4 has more features than iPhones (S-pen, SO2 sensor, Infrared remote, microSD card, replaceable battery & still used by my 88y old father for FB, photos, browser (he stopped using the laptop), etc.
My almost 6y old Galaxy Note 8 has 77% battery health (they replaced the battery for free when they replaced the minor screen crack with the preorder free 1y screen warranty :). My wife just stopped using it after she took my old NOte 10+ & I got the S23 Ultra with 8K 30fps camera.
Tell me which iPhone can hold the battery for more than ~2y with intensive use (FB, YT, browse, WiFi, …;)
@akerr: Literally any other phone lasts longer 😂😂 enjoy your easily shatter prone screens and bludging batteries.
Let us see you play Angry Birds on your bicycle…
So, something is overpriced so it should be boycotted? Boycott Ferraris or Lambos?
I agree that Apple can get quite overpriced, and this $200 off sale bring it back into line with more 'normal' prices, but that's no reason too just boycott them.
Peak entitlement reached in one post.
Which cars fall into the "iPhone" segment of the car market? Surely, there's something between a Camry and Ferrari which is an overpriced "ordinary necessity."
@ihfree: I'm gonna say it's Tesla cars…lol
Yes it falls between Camry and Ferrari, it's an ordinary necessity now becos of climate change
Twittling thumbs…just waiting for the ICE v EV debate to be tied in
You can go buy a cheap used iPhone or even a new iPhone SE for less than most android flagships. Also consider Samsung make more expensive phone, and so will google. Your comment makes zero sense.
@onlinepred: Samsung Galaxy is superior with S-Pen, USB-C 3.2 vs archaic/slow usb2, Fold for laptop experience, etc. You have been fooled ;)
@taki: Yeah, but not things consumers care about. Depending on how often you use them, it is perhaps you that has been fooled.
There are a lot of features I like in my Android Phone. Take Dex as an example. The general public barely know it exists.
@ihfree: I'm IT pro & visionary. I use most of the features & do not leave home without the S-pen. I analyse wsell before I buy & keep things for long time. Typing this on 8y old PC with 2x 4K monitors & 12y old Logitech G110 keyboard (wireless Logi MX keys for standup typing).
Apple is too restrictive for me & I prefer more features with some imperfections for IT.
With cars it's the opposite - practical & reliable is better as it's not my priority (public transport is the backup).
@taki: Fair enough. I think I get where you're coming from even if we do disagree.
I'm similar - I generally research and expect a long life from my electronics purchases and used to upgrade due to end of life or wanting more features. Now that line is a bit more blurred with some purchases purely for wanting an upgrade.
My home environment is a mix of Apple, windows, Android, Linux. I also, generally, like flexibility. That said, I have come to appreciate good out of box experiences. To solve my Chromecast issues would have required Merlin, a DNS block, etc. In the end, with time considered, it was easier just to go Apple TV.
I still don't think I'd get on with an iPhone based on my iPad usage, though I have come to appreciate certain aspects. I do appreciate the openness and features in Android/OneUI. I do like some of the features that are available on Android. I do also get the appeal of the iPhone.
I used to have a Note 3 with S-Pen which likely would have lasted 5+ years. I was running a custom ROM, in part to get access to PIP. In the end, there was a deal on a p20 pro which was to good to pass on. While that life is impressive, I don't think the average user would be able to stretch a devices life span like that. Though, newer Samsung devices, iirc, have 5 years of upgrades now. My next upgrade will likely be to get a device with ESIM.
@taki: You sound insufferable. Does "IT pro & visionary" mean you look at features list without considering UX?
I'm a Software Engineer who uses an iPhone and a MacBook.
@BruvMeister: Visionary probably just means early adopter in this case. Personally, I wouldn't call someone a visionary without some sort of creative output - be it products or innovative ways of putting things together.
We are probably just as much visionaries, perhaps even more so.
If they're stretching the term, visionary, they're likely stretching the term pro as well.
Haha by no means is a phone like an iphone, i've done well in my life using a $50 woolies phone for 8 years
The sad thing is they’re actually good value vs android flagships, which have been lagging behind iPhones for so long it’s cringey at this point
Plus used iPhones are flooding the market now and giving great value for entry level
Apple's upgrade cycle works differently to Android. New older models just become lower tier devices. For example, the iPhone 11 is still sold.
For example, the iPhone 11 is still sold.
iPhone 11 discontinued when 14 was released. 12 is now the base model.
Huh?
Googles Pixel line is great value compared to these and the performance is just as good as what Apple is offering with generally higher specs.
And they do go on sale well under the RRP (Check Ozbargain)
Google Pixel 7 Pro RRP:
128GB = $1299
256GB = $1449
Google Pixel 7 RRP:
128GB = $999
256G = $1199
but how fast is the pixel 7?
https://browser.geekbench.com/mobile-benchmarks
slower in single core than my $250 iPhone SE 2020
@abctoz: Kind of irrelevant. You'd be looking at other factors like build quality, reliability, ecosystem. The average consumer certainly doesn't think about CPU.
Besides, phones passed good enough a long time ago. It's reasonably safe to assume that any flagship falls into the good enough category.
@ihfree: I’m just pointing out the performance is not the same
What you said doesn’t seem relevant to what I said
And I hope you can see that a phone 4x less the price whilst being faster might appeal to some consumers
@abctoz: Fair point - worth calling out in the context.
However, I still think real world impact is much more important than benchmarks.
@taki: You can’t do split screen on iPhone iOS yet. The best you can do is watch video and have an app open like safari at the same time. I find despite the extra cpu performance that in real world usage my old Samsung was better for multitasking. There’s certain aspects that iPhones and iOS that still is miles behind Android and there’s lots of other things they do better.
Isnt battery life bad?
Through 5 generations of pixels and 2 nexus, I’ve never owned one that could last more than 2 years without major issues. Not sure I’d call that good value.
@onlinepred: I'm a long time Pixel/Google fan. From Galaxy S (1!), Nexus S, Nexus 5, Nexus 6P, Pixel 2, Pixel 5… I was always an Android user. Pixels absolutely offer the best bang for buck when you look at capital expenditure, especially where the camera is concerned. But every single one of those phones were really hard to live with for over 18 months. Slowdowns, bugs, battery life degradation… the experience degradation was pretty significant.
Not to mention that Google only (!) officially support 2 years of software updates from release date and 3 years of security. That's abysmal. So this year I switched both my wife and I over to iPhones and while I miss the cameras and certain aspects of Android, I'm hopeful that we can at least hold onto these things for a bit longer without feeling like we're fighting with them everyday to make them do our bidding
Also iphones are far less overpriced when you factor in the resale value after 2-3 years. Iphones depreciate at a slow and orderly pace. Androids (even samsung and google flagships) are worth very little after 3 years.
but the repair price is significantly higher, if possible at all.
@quog: contents insurance and consumer law can cover you for all scenarios. But I do hate that apple products are not easily repairable, from a sustainability and choice of repairer perspective.
@eggboi: Can cover you, but not necessarily. You’d need to check your insurance. And fight Apple if any more than two years old for consumer protection.
@WhyAmICommenting: If you ever need to, quote Apple’s own claims back to them:
“For the purposes of our assessment, years of use, which are based on first owners, are modelled to be four years for macOS and tvOS devices, and three years for iOS, iPadOS and watchOS devices. Most Apple products last longer and are often passed along, resold or returned to Apple by the first owner for others to use. More information on our product energy use is provided in our Product Environmental Reports.”
Therefore, one can easily argue that iphones can reasonably be expected to be free of defects for AT LEAST 4-5 years, if not longer. And that’s according to Apple’s own claims - never mind anecdotal evidence of 10+ year old iphones still in use.
@quog: not always, I got my old man a $400 Samsung, he cracked the screen, when to few places and they all told him its not worth fixing as they can only get Samsung screen for that phone, and repair is more then what the phone is worth now. He has been through 3 andriod phones and my mother still rocking iPhone 8
Its a cult
You should buy in and try it out. Resale is decent so, there's always a cultist to sell to if you don't like it. In addition, some of the people I know who spend the least money on phones are Apple users who either buy refurbs or own their devices for much longer time periods.
I think much of the market is people who don't have time to mess around with tech. I've previously stated that Android largely just works and I still think that is the case. I probably won't be giving up an Android phone anytime soon. That said, the Apple stuff I have takes just works to the next level.
As an example, I replaced my Chomecast with Google TV with a Apple TV. One driver was to get rid of ads especially for Australian commercial TV. There were also a few quirks as well which were annoying. I picked up my iPad, and there's a notification to just use it as a remote. You can even use the iPad to enter text on the Apple TV. Not amazing in itself, but using an Android phone as a remote for a Chromecast is much less obvious and doesn't have some quality of life features like text entry.
In addition, when you compare Apple products to the ones they are actually meant to compete with the value proposition is often is tilted in favour of Apple(though obviously this is subjective to a degree and use case dependent).
Cult following is a testimony to the product quality. Does not necessarily justify the price point. Its a cult because to sell a product twice the cost and maybe 20% better than competition, it has to be a cult following
@ihfree: “It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain
Peer pressure, System Justification (if you have it you defend it as you overspent your money ;)
Scientifically proven
@ihfree: Yes. I bought samsung 21 ultra 2 years ago for 900$ including trade up price cost. S21 ultra is better phone than iphone 12 pro max in my view. Quick search on ozbargain cheapest i saw iphone 12 pro max was 1545$. So yes nearly double the cost and lesser phone in many aspects and better in some
@Notacommie: You've used promotional offers to purchase an item which is subjectivly better. Not exactly a valid comparison. I've bought plenty of items on Ozbargain that i've later sold(or could have) for more than what I paid - sales/deals aren't really reflective of price.
There are a number of reasons why Samsung are doing offers like that - for example, retention around iPhone launches. I'd be seriously complaining about Samsung's Kathmandu style pricing if they never sold near RRP.
Agreed iphone is great value, sure i paid top dollar for my iphone 6s+ 128gb in 2012 but it's still going strong 11 years later it can still handle most apps without issue and the OS still gets updates. Is it a Cult…NO it just works really well consistently and is simply the best phone money can buy. Almost time for me to update…maybe the 15.
@Abraxsas: How are you using iPhone 6s+ for 11 years? It was released in September 2015, and not even 8 years have passed since today.
Its a cult
Android sheep's go-to. Cringe.
Its a cult! You wouldn't know if you are in it?
@Notacommie: Look at me, the cultist, having owned a whopping two iPhones over a 8 year period.
Total cult.
I've only had to own two iPhones because they actually last the couple of years required, because they receive meaningful OS updates and have unparalleled build quality.
Have had my current iPhone 12 mini for almost three years, at this rate it will easily last it's entire lifecycle.
Stay happy with your (realistically speaking) lousy 2-year support window m8
@ThithLord: I replaced my note 9 (phone approaching 5 years old) with an iPhone this year and to be honest it seems more like a side grade. With the exception of camera and 5g support it doesn’t really do anything much better. Some things I’ve noticed Apple still are doing wrong and some things they have right. Their core map app is still inferior to google maps for instance, which surprised me. iOS 16 is also quite buggy, worse experience in my usage than Android 13. Phones used to offer massive upgrades every 2nd generation. I was happy to upgrade every 2nd generation 8 years ago, because flagships used to be had a few months after release for ~$400. I remember picking up the iPhone 5s just after release for ~$400. I’ve never really replaced my smartphone because they stopped working or lack of support.
One thing I do notice is that cheap phones are so damn good now. I’d say my father $200 Motorola isn’t that much different to my iPhone pro. It really impresses me how great cheap phones are now.
@Ronnnie: The feeling of a big upgrade has gone, IMO. Hardware and software have reached a good enough point.
My Samsung Note 3 would have had a much longer life if it had not been for bargains. That phone hardware wise was still good when support ended. I extended the live by installing a third party rom and still had all important features such as NFC payments available. This also added on features like PIP. On the custom ROM, it felt snappier than the stock rom.
Stacking specials, bonus cashback, salary sacrifice made for an extremely cheap upgrade to a P20 Pro.
The P20 Pro was a good upgrade, in particular with camera but definitely not a needed one. This phone unfortunately died, otherwise, I would have used it until some time after the end of support. Even now, it is a capable phone held back by software.
Coming to a S20 FE, is a much snappier phone, but functionality is largely the same. I don't feel it's slowed down compared to older Android devices. This phone is fortunately supported longer and will make it to at least the three year mark.
Agreed regarding cheap Android phones, I've had one or two as spares including a G82 which was an amazingly capable device at the price point. Downside though is a shorter support period.
On the plus side for Android, more recently, support has been extended to 5 years for certain phones. In general, this will covers most users and leave some time with support if sold second hand. The situation for Android has improved significantly but probably not to the level of Apple.
The way I see it - always buy a phone with the best camera you can. You will be looking back at those memories forever, and will forget the phone price tag far quicker than the potato quality pictures.
Overpriced, how so?
It’s basically an old iPhone 13 cpu with the extra SOS/ Crash detection add on.
Wiadro on 07/05/2023 - 10:10 Comment score below threshold.
