Car Accident - Who's at Fault

Lphoenixi0n on 29/04/2023 - 16:09
Last edited 29/04/2023 - 18:23 by 1 other user

Hi guys, can I have some of your wisdom please for my first accident. I've attached diagram for your reference:

-Car A, turning right from T intersection. Indicated.

-Car B, going straight from right side to left, similar to car C, trying to do U-turn, no line marking on street. Went to kerb, waited for car C. Indicated

Both car was waiting for car C to pass, collision between A and B happened after car C passed.

Thank you in advance.

Update: Damage was on Car B's front right (minor), Car A's front wheel area, affecting little part of front passenger door

Damage: https://imgur.com/a/ANJTG54

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    Car A fault
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    Car B fault
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    Both
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Comments

  • barge-in hunter on 29/04/2023 - 16:13
    +6

    Uturns have to give way to everyone - in Vic at least

    • jjjaar on 30/04/2023 - 09:31
      +1

      Everyone means everyone. The one most people don’t realise: pedestrians crossing the road.

  • Hellfire on 29/04/2023 - 16:13
    +1

    Not enough information. Where did the accident occur? Were both vehicles moving? Where is the damage located?

    • GordonD on 29/04/2023 - 16:22
      +3

      Where did the accident occur?

      Doyle Rd Padstow.

  • Ghost47 on 29/04/2023 - 16:14
    +1

    What part of the cars were damaged? Did A t-bone B?

    I am inclined to say that both A and B are morons.

  • Pelicannn on 29/04/2023 - 16:16
    +1

    I still don't know which two cars were involved…

  • GordonD on 29/04/2023 - 16:20
    +3

    If you are doing a U-turn you have to give way to everyone, repeat, everyone, else.

  • bmxr on 29/04/2023 - 16:24
    +10

    B at fault, especially given there is a roundabout 50m further down Doyle Road they could have used to turnaround safely!

    Dropped pin
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/8k78N63zyeg9qkUL6

  • pegaxs on 29/04/2023 - 16:32
    -5

    B: because "road rules"…

    38 Giving way when making a U-turn
    (1) A driver making a U-turn must give way to all vehicles and pedestrians.

    Come on, could have made it harder than that…

    I'm just going to wait here for the inevitable dunce to turn up claiming B had "RiGhT oF wAy" over A and citing no road rule, just "That's what I was taught when I got my license back in 1968…"

    Damage was on Car B's front left (minor), Car A's front wheel area, affecting little part of front passenger door

    But, hold on… how was the "front left" of Car B damaged?? Had it already completed the turn? The left side of the car would have been away from Car A the whole time unless Car B had completed the turn and was going back past the intersection Car A was leaving… And how the (fropanity) did the off side of Car B hit the passenger door of car A? Do you have the cars arse about? Car A has front left damage and Car B has passenger door damage, because that makes sense in a U-turn collision.

    Something sounds like bullshit here…

    • phoenixi0n on 29/04/2023 - 16:46
      -1

      Car B barely left the kerb following car C, while A was in the middle of road as well following car C.

      • Settero on 29/04/2023 - 16:49
        +2

        Without a picture of where the collision was , sounds like car a pulled out in front of b when b had finished the u turn

        • phoenixi0n on 29/04/2023 - 16:58

          added pic of damage: Car A silver, Car B yellow

          • pegaxs on 29/04/2023 - 17:03
            +4

            @phoenixi0n: Well, that isnt the "front left" on car B for a start… That is "Front RIGHT"

            And if the front RIGHT of Car B (the yellow Toyota) hit the passenger side of Car A (the silver BMW), then B is 100% at fault.

    • rufus001 on 30/04/2023 - 12:14
      -1

      I know a u-turning car has to give way to all traffic BUT when does the u-turn stop and he becomes just another car driving along the road? If both cars were going thru an intersection then it would be clear but if you see someone doing a u-turn a couple of hundred metres up the road can you just pull out in front of him because he did a u-turn?

      • Euphemistic on 30/04/2023 - 17:02

        No you can’t just hit them because they are u-turning. At some point all drivers have a responsibility to give way to avoid a crash. There is however a hierarchy, and a u-turner is at the bottom of the list.

        • rufus001 on 30/04/2023 - 23:18

          I understand but for how long? If I do a U-turn and then continue on down the road how long do I stay at the bottom of the hierarchy? That's what I'm wondering. But no-one ever seems to know.

          • Euphemistic on 01/05/2023 - 05:26

            @rufus001: You when you have completed the turn? You stop, give way, make the turn and at some point you will have returned to the normal travel lane in the opposite direction. Maybe it’s wen you clear the initial lane, maybe it’s when you’ve accelerated to the speed limit or somewhere in between.

            If another vehicle is unable to avoid you before you are at the speed limit in the other direction I’d imagine you haven’t given way but it’s all conjecture and really dependant on the actuality of the collision.

  • phoenixi0n on 29/04/2023 - 16:33
    -2

    Thanks for the clarification guys.

    • mapax on 29/04/2023 - 16:34

      Which car were you driving?

      • pegaxs on 29/04/2023 - 16:35
        +8

        Like you really need to ask… :D

      • Gunnar on 29/04/2023 - 17:35
        +2

        Car B

  • Godric on 29/04/2023 - 16:37
    +2

    Assuming you're car B?

  • Protractor on 29/04/2023 - 17:00
    +1

    Person responsible for accident asks Ozbargain community to rewrite law and physics, so they can convince the other drivers, they have 'legal advice ' supporting their case.
    Famous CornishTV chef in car A, lawyers up.

  • AustriaBargain on 29/04/2023 - 17:07
    +2

    You drove into oncoming traffic bud.

  • bazingaa on 29/04/2023 - 17:08

    Went to kerb,

    more like a parked car entering the street

  • Ghost47 on 29/04/2023 - 17:08

    You can prevent this sort of thing if you head check. You know what that is, right?

  • 7ekn00 on 29/04/2023 - 17:46
    +2

    Round about 50m down the road, stupid to do a u-turn there, but I doubt the driver of Car B will learn anything from this ;)

  • cashless on 29/04/2023 - 18:24
    +1

    So the guy making the right hand turn was supposed to guess you were about to perform a u-turn?
    Sure thing.

  • Marcsie on 29/04/2023 - 18:31
    +1

    Let’s talk the most important issues
    Which cars have insurances ?

  • Ryanek on 29/04/2023 - 19:11
    +7

    I dont know which one is the BMW driver but itll definitly be their fault

  • jjjaar on 30/04/2023 - 09:56
    +2

    This is not an accident, it’s a crash. It could have been avoided VERY easily.

    • doctordv8 on 30/04/2023 - 11:08

      Finally… and exactly. Thank you.

  • Davo1111 on 30/04/2023 - 12:23

    Go on OP tell us which car you were

    • Euphemistic on 30/04/2023 - 17:04
      +2

      “It was my friend”

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