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Lenovo ThinkPad T16 Gen 1 AMD (Ryzen7 6850U, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 16.0" 1920x1200 Touch) $1,375 Delivered @ Lenovo

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This seems like a great deal for under $1.4k. AMD version is better than Intel in terms of performance and efficiency, but you lose USB4 which I don't think is an issue for most people as USB 3.2 Gen 2 is still plenty fast for most use cases including docking stations.
Other cons include no sd card slot and soldered RAM and wifi module.

RAM could be an issue here as it's not upgradeable and the GPU reserves around 1-2GB so you will have less than 15GB usable. But at least it's not 8GB…

It's worth mentioning that it comes with 3 years on site warranty as well.

There's also the exact same model with WWAN for $60 more: https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadt/thinkpad-t16-(16''-amd)/21CH001SAU

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    • ozbargain-pashim on 29/04/2023 - 11:51
      +7

      16 is the new 8 now? Lol

    • dosada on 29/04/2023 - 11:52

      And your reason for the neg is?

      • bbcw1980 on 29/04/2023 - 12:09
        +2

        He thinks 16GB is not enough for minesweeper …………………………

        • xoom on 29/04/2023 - 13:10
          +1

          Its not enough for notepad. 64GB ram or nothing. 🤣

      • spriggan43 on 29/04/2023 - 15:13
        -1

        The negative aspect is clearly a more complex point of contention as this laptop, which is stuck with 16GB of soldered memory, will soon be replaced by a newer Ryzen offering. While you or others may see it as saving, I can see this laptop ending up on eBay in 1-2 years because the 16gb of memory is limiting and nonupgradable.

        • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 30/04/2023 - 07:29
          +2

          What are you anticipating will happen in 1-2 years that makes 24-32G essentially mandatory?

    • ChadHominem on 29/04/2023 - 13:24
      +2

      Just close some of your browser tabs lol

  • Classo on 29/04/2023 - 11:48
    -2

    Anyone knows how it compares to this deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/756801? In terms of value, seems like this expired deal is better?

    • dosada on 29/04/2023 - 11:50
      +1

      Different target group, different models. Different everything but brand.

    • ozbargain-pashim on 29/04/2023 - 12:05
      +3

      Well that one is $500 more and has a smaller non touch screen with only 1 year warranty, but with double the RAM and storage.

      The Z series is supposed to be more "premium" with glass trackpad and aluminum body vs plastic on the T16.

      Up to you to decide which one is better value.

  • sudodeal on 29/04/2023 - 12:02
    -1

    That's a good option for kid school laptop. 16", light weight, and touch screen.

    • ozbargain-pashim on 29/04/2023 - 12:45
      +4

      School kid will never make use of the R7 chip.
      There are much better options than this.

      • sudodeal on 29/04/2023 - 16:58
        +1

        My bad. I misread that 1.4k in the description as the weight.

  • Classo on 29/04/2023 - 12:05
    +9

    Posting incase this helps anyone else.

    Both are/have:
    - AMD Ryzen™ 7 PRO 6850U
    - Integrated AMD Radeon™ 680M & IPS
    - Windows 11 Pro 64
    - AC Adapter: 65W USB-C
    - Fingerprint Reader
    - Qualcomm Wi-Fi 6E NFA725A 2x2 AX & Bluetooth® 5.1 or above

    The $ difference after cashback is $277.31 and specs differences are:
    - T: 16 GB LPDDR5-6400MHz (Soldered) Z: 32 GB LPDDR5-6400MHz (Soldered)
    - T: 512 GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC Opal Z: 1 TB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4 TLC Opal
    - T: 4 Cell Li-Polymer 52.5Wh Z: 3-cell (51.5Wh), integrated
    - T: 16inch Z: 13inch
    - T: 1080P FHD IR with Dual Array Integrated Digital Microphone and ThinkShutter Z: IR & FHD 1080p hybrid, with E-camera shutter, fixed focus
    - T: Anti-Glare, Touch Z: Anti-Reflective/Anti-Smudge
    - T: 1.769kg (touch) Z: 1.19kg (non-Touch) 1.26 (touch)

    • scotty on 29/04/2023 - 14:14
      +2

      One important omission is that Z13 has extremely poor port selections (only 3.5mm audio out + 2x USB-C ports) — making them unusable as business laptops unless you also want to lug a docking station around.

      • ChickenDinner123 on 29/04/2023 - 15:01
        +2

        docking station? You can take a super portable usb-c hub and get hdmi output.

      • number5 on 29/04/2023 - 21:03

        That's standard Macbook Pro port setup (and you need one of usb-c ports for power) so you have plenty of usb-c hubs to choose from :)

  • boisterous bill on 29/04/2023 - 12:11
    +5

    Lenovo's naming schemes are so messed up. T16 Gen 1 uses the same CPU as T14 Gen 3. It's not so bad for lines like X1 Carbon that are their own thing, but when comparing 2 models where the only difference is (supposed to be) screen size, Gen 1 being on par with Gen 3 is needlessly confusing.

    • OpayuOnam on 29/04/2023 - 13:20
      +1

      used to be T15, when they moved to 16:10 from 16:9 ratio the 15.3" screen got increased to 16". Do based on that they had to either call it T16 gen3 and cause confusion since there's no gen 1/2 or just call it T15? There's no way around it 😅 it's a lose lose either way. This way at least denotes it's the first Gen of T16 series.

      • greatlamp on 29/04/2023 - 18:08

        They don't have to consecutively name each product line separately. They could have simply called every product released in 2022 a g3 for example. The way it is now, you need to have a relatively detailed understanding of pc components to know what you are buying

        • OpayuOnam on 29/04/2023 - 18:11
          +1

          Meh, let's agree to disagree. The naming scheme on both HP and Dell business model range is even more confusing.
          For any laptop just check the CPU model to know what year it's from, not a big deal really.

          • greatlamp on 29/04/2023 - 20:53
            +2

            @OpayuOnam: I'm not disagreeing with you!

            It's not a hassle for you and me, but for the average person its as if I asked you to determine how old a mobile phone is based on what processor it has. I think it's evidence that PC builders don't understand their customer, hence why the average person would rather spend hundreds of dollars more on an apple product for instance.

            The worst are monitor model numbers. They may as well use secure password generators to name their products.

            • OpayuOnam on 30/04/2023 - 05:27
              +1

              @greatlamp: Well said.

              Come to think of it many products suffer from this, how can you tell what generation a Mazda 3 or Corolla is from? the year is not enough and knowing the exact model numbers just gives you a soup of random letters and numbers…

  • crazynic on 29/04/2023 - 12:21
    +4

    These seem like a good deal for someone looking for a more budget laptop:

    Ryzen 5:

    https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpade/thinkpad--e15-gen-4-(15-inch-amd)/21ed000aau

    Ryzen 7:

    https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpade/thinkpad-e14-gen-4-(14%E2%80%B3-amd)/21eb000hau

  • berry580 on 29/04/2023 - 12:26

    Is usb 3.2 gen 2 fast enough for 2 x 2k external monitors + laptop's own screen

    • Wonderfool on 29/04/2023 - 12:40
      +2

      I never realised how confusing usb have gotten over the last 5 years. Gen 2? 2x2? Jesus, at this point, just say its speed and whether or not it's dp compatible.

      Well, for what it's worth, I know that there are hubs that support dual 2k screen through usb 10gbs (gen 2), and the igpu is good enough for it. Plus, it does have an innate hdmi even if it doesn't.

    • scotty on 29/04/2023 - 13:45

      According to the spec sheet, T16 Gen 1 AMD is capable of driving 3 external monitors (HDMI + 2x USB C), all at 4k @ 60Hz.

    • OpayuOnam on 30/04/2023 - 05:20

      I have a ThinkPad dock with this laptop and can do 1x 4k@60hz + 1x 1080p@60hz plus a bunch of other peripherals.

  • TurnipHead on 29/04/2023 - 12:28
    +3

    Was actually looking into this last week but didn't buy (or post it) because the screen is rather average.

    16.0" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, Anti-Glare, Touch, 45%CG, 300 nits, 60Hz, LED Backlight, Low Cost, Low Weight

    The Yoga 7 Gen 8 has a much better screen - OLED that is brighter and much more accurate but costs $200 more (and is 14" v 16")

    • ozbargain-pashim on 29/04/2023 - 12:47

      If screen is very important to you, don't get the T16.

      Otherwise, ThinkPad aims for an entirely different segment compared to the Yoga line.

  • TonySop on 29/04/2023 - 12:57
    -1

    Can we upgrade the Ram and memory on this one ?

    • OpayuOnam on 29/04/2023 - 13:21
      +1

      RAM is soldered, SSD is upgradable.

  • Yo1111 on 29/04/2023 - 13:28

    Advice please,
    I've been looking a laptop since few months and still can't decide which one do i need.
    Actually I'm using a dell inspiron n5010 bought in 2011. I cleared everything and update only the ram to 8gb and still use the 256gb.
    It's been running good but lately, quite a few time it's just switch off. I use it without the battery and plugged directly as i leave it on for long hours for work purpose.
    I need a laptop that can open approx 20 tabs, run photoshop, canva, listen to music on YT, at the same time.
    Budget is around $1k but can go a bit over if the laptop have future proof specs.
    Thanks for your help in advance

    • Wonderfool on 29/04/2023 - 13:48

      For the most part, your needs is pretty much fulfilled by most 6xxx ryzen laptops, or a 12th gen intel laptop as well. Even the i3-1215u is actually sufficient.

      The most important spec for Photoshop is probably ram, but considering that you're fine with what you're using, you probably don't use that much layer anyways, so 16gb is fine. Still, I'll look for 24gb to 32 gb ram, to be on the safe side.

      Maybe something like this and replace the non soldered ram stick for 16gb ram?

  • downunderblue on 29/04/2023 - 15:32
    +3

    Alright. I'm normally ok with tech but assessing laptops is not a linear process apparently.

    I've mostly used refurbed Dell and Lenovo laptops but the more I use them as a mobile form factor the more frustrated I get with some of their limitations. Case in point is I refurbed my son's old Lenovo ThinkPad L380 but still found the battery performance to be really poor just on email/ web viewing-based usage. I was barely getting an hour out of it and had to constantly plug the 100w power bank into it. I replaced the 45Wh battery with a genuine product thinking all would be rosy but the bugger still has poor performance, which lead me to look at these recent Lenovo deals.

    I saw the OzB Lenovo Education listed store deal for the IdeaPad Pro 5 (16'', Gen 8) AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS @ $1249 and for me this seems quite impressive however I'm not sure why only 17 people upvoted for it. It seems an impressive processor with reasonable ad hoc gaming performance as an APU. Again, I'm apprehensive of the battery claims but Lenovo states the 4-cell (75Wh) battery is tested up to 14 hours via at MobileMark® 2018? Is this realistic for most use cases?

    I started researching whether i should purchase it and I ran into some interesting criticism on Windows 11 for Laptops in general (hibernation power issues etc), and that the Apple M1 and M2 chip laptops were just so much better on battery life and performance. Now I am loathed to get back into their ecosystem, but the comparison reviews on the MacBook Air M2 and M1 chip laptops seem impressive. Bar the impressive nature of the CPU's, the specs seem crap compared to the above Windows 11 devices but these buggers just seem to fit the use case very well and just work?

    Can I get anyone’s thoughts on the logic above (please pick a hole in it)? Again, I don’t know why the Education site deal is so lowly up upvoted, and again whether I'd be better to just bite the bullet and my pride and buy a MacBook?

    Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

    • ozbargain-pashim on 29/04/2023 - 15:52
      +2

      IdeaPads are consumer laptops, while thinkpads are business laptops. This is your biggest difference.

      Thinkpads have a much better reputation and a very loyal userbase (check /r/ThinkPad on Reddit). They will typically last a lot longer as they are built with high standards. They are also supported for much longer, and are much more repairable due to availability of parts. They also officially support Linux operating system.

      As you said comparing laptops is definitely not a linear process, partly because of the overwhelming options that exist even within the same product line of the same company, let alone the entire windows laptop market as a whole. Laptop manufacturers could learn a thing or two from how apple markets their products.

      And regarding your point about M1/M2 MacBook I definitely agree.
      I was very close to take a bullet in my pride and get a MacBook because of how incredibly compelling it is. There is simply no alternative that has the same battery life, form factor, and price in the windows space, but on the other hand I never want to lock myself in the apple ecosystem.

    • Wonderfool on 29/04/2023 - 16:30

      The 14 hours screen on time are usually for when you don't use wifi. 75w would usually mean around 5 to 6 hours real SoT. If you limit its tdp, I think you can squeeze 7 hours.

      Yes, the m1 and m2 would last much longer, I think base m1 last 10 hours sot even with wifi. If you don't need windows only software, and you don't game, and you don't need to plug in 2 extra monitors, the m1 is incredible device.

    • GeneralSkunk on 29/04/2023 - 20:26

      Thanks, I’m in the same boat. I need a new laptop for work (contracting). That Verge article is a good read. Some options there I hadn’t considered yet. I had a Zenbook a decade ago such was awesome and lasted years through travel abuse. Plus they are very price competitive. But I’m considering a MacBook 😬 Though I need to run Altium (Windows); some people have had it going in Parallels, however I am not convinced on the long term usability going forward. Good thing is you can try for two weeks and return it if you don’t like it.

    • ChadHominem on 29/04/2023 - 23:01

      If a MacBook Air M1/M2 meets your use case, get it. I personally wouldn’t trade mine for another laptop because of how light and convenient it is, and the long battery life means I don’t worry about keeping it charged all the time (which is also great for the battery’s longevity). I would however consider getting a separate desktop for gaming, but I’d probably still use the MBA for everything else

    • downunderblue on 30/04/2023 - 18:42

      Thx all for the feedback.

      Started to look at the M1 & M2 laptops. I found a refurb MacBook 14 Pro with the M2 chip and 16gb ram at $2069 …

      I also checked the based M1 MacBook Air and yes it only has 8gb ram but to upgrade it to total 16gb is $270 (????) … :-(

      Yep, I have that special Apple feeling again, like a rash that originates at the prospect of going back to them.

      That Lenovo IdeaPad Pro 5, 16'' AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS with 16GB or DDR5 ram again @ $1249 is starting to look favourable again. I mean how bad can it be when I can almost buy 1.8 or them for one refurb MacBook Pro model with the M2 chip??? The 7735HS is a good chip, and an APU to boot. What am I not seeing here (???) or is it again I'm triggered by the Apple rash and need to harden up, buy some canesten cream and pay the cash???

  • hamwhisperer on 29/04/2023 - 15:57

    Gotta be honest as a work user with a fancy dock for work laptop.

    Really dying for amd systems to have full thunderbolt 4 and USB 4 (and working dead reliable, please)

  • Sandaz on 29/04/2023 - 23:33

    Wow, I thought I knew computers pretty well but Im so confused. I'm after a new laptop, a huge key for me is I want long battery life for hobby music production in the park, minimum 15.6 inch screen, 16GB ram, need a decent CPU e.g. 12th gen i7 CPU plus nVidia graphics prefarbly (I think nVidia works better with VDJ Stems 2.0) but GPU is not a deal breaker. I need the soundcard to support ASIO drivers too. I see the thinkpads are on sale until the 30th and the recent education portal Ideapad pro 5 deal looks good too. I've researched alot. Still wondering between
    https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpade/thinkpad-e15-gen-4-(15-inch-intel)/21e60067au
    and
    https://www.lenovo.com/au/edu/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-5/ideapad-pro-5-gen-8-(16-inch-amd)/83ascto1wwau2?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.ozbargain.com.au%252F&groupId=education

    if anyone can throw a life raft out…

    • hamwhisperer on 30/04/2023 - 00:14
      +1

      You didn't actually elaborate on your conundrum, an I guessing right it's the sound driver thing?

      • Sandaz on 30/04/2023 - 00:28

        Just which one suits my use case better out of the two laptops. Or happy to have them blown away by other contenders!

        (The ASIO driver thing is a bit of a mystery too still though, have been googling around. I assume the soundcards are integrated on the MOBOs so that might be a lead - i'll kep looking that up).

        • Sandaz on 30/04/2023 - 11:35

          Update: Now im going down the dpc latency rabbit hole

          • ChadHominem on 30/04/2023 - 13:12
            +1

            @Sandaz: I haven’t been in the music production game for a while but don’t you need an external audio interface? Or have the integrated sound cards in laptops improved enough to not need one?

            • Sandaz on 30/04/2023 - 19:34

              @ChadHominem: I think so, if I wanted to drive high impedance speakers decently, but I already have a good desktop setup for that. The laptop is just for hammering away on midi and editing arrangements while I wear low impedance headphones outside.

              The DPC latency thing was a rabbit hole with no real answers for the laptop I ended up buying today (a new model - the Ideapad Pro 5 through the edu portal, so I couldnt find latency measurements for the exact build). Regarding DPC, this was an awesome resource: https://www.reddit.com/r/Reaper/comments/qntm66/little_psa_i…

              Regarding ASIO drivers, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to wrangle somthing taht will work for the new Ideapad.

              FYI ADVICE TO EVERYONE - Lesson learned from Laptop research: the online chat services are generaly pretty woeful. So I recommend asking them for the build number of the laptop you are researching (for example, it's not specified on the main Lenovo website and it's not the part number, that's different) so you can research the EXACT build you're looking at - there are so many variants it's crazy. Lenovo has this site that you can then check for more detailed technical specifications easily yourself e.g. how many SSDs can fit in the laptop or what type of 'integrated graphics' a build has. Here's the link for Lenovo: https://psref.lenovo.com/

              Cheers

              • ChadHominem on 30/04/2023 - 21:22
                +1

                @Sandaz: I think you can use ASIO4ALL drivers but don’t quote me on it

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 30/04/2023 - 07:33

    I used to bullseye womp rats in my T16 back home.

  • beastontheroad on 30/04/2023 - 07:49
    +2

    I like this better for a $1599. No touch screen though. It includes WWAN and 32 GB DRR 5 4800 upgradable to 64 GB

    https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/6g9k7pa-cto-hp-elitebook-…

  • lealvinav on 30/04/2023 - 20:21

    Can anybody comment about their warranty support? Particularly the 1 year battery warranty. How does that work with Australian Consumer Law?

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