Coffee Grinder for Milk Based Drinks?

Bought a Breville Barista Touch last year and started making coffee at home, 2-4 lattes a day between me and my partner.
Been watching fair bit of youtube videos from James Hoffman, Lance Hedrick etc. and getting to learn more about coffee making at home.

From what I can tell, the shots I'm getting should be ball-park dialled in. Been experimenting with 18-21g in, 1:2 ratio, over 25-35s.
Puck prep should be largely consistent, weighing the beans, WDT, 25lb self-leveling tamp, precision basket, naked portafilter, shots usually come out nice and slow with no visible channeling.

While slowing falling into the rabbit hole, now I'm wondering if it's worth getting a new grinder for my use case (mainly lattes). Based on reviews/other forums, the Breville built-in grinder is said to be mediocre at best. However, I understand this refers to the pentagonal/5-spoke conical burr that is on most Breville machines. The burr on my Barista Touch and some other models is actually made by Etzinger and is hexagonal/6-spoke ("burr man" Lance said this is a much nicer burr compared to the 5-spoke and is much more similar to the ones on Sette/Baratza grinders).

Am hoping to get some thoughts/first hand experience on whether grinder upgrade is worth it for milk based drinks? Should I just keep using my built-in grinder that might be ok? If not, what are some good upgrade options?

Thanks in advance!

Note:
I enjoy medium/dark roast with milk, understand generally speaking conical will be a better choice than flat burrs.
Open to suggestions but have listed out some popular options based on internet.

Poll Options

  • 10
    Stick with built-in Etzinger grinder
  • 3
    Eureka Mignon Specialita (55mm flat)
  • 2
    Timemore Sculptor 078s (78mm flat)
  • 1
    Lagom Mini (48mm conical)
  • 1
    Niche Zero (63mm conical)
  • 1
    Timemore Sculptor 064s (64mm flat)
  • 0
    DF64/DF64v (64mm flat)

Comments

  • +13

    Regardless of what weights and times and such you are using, if it is already pulling thick and slow like honey and the coffee tastes good then why would you want another grinder? Sounds like you are already getting good coffee. You could spend the money on something else like a Nintendo Switch and play the new Zelda game. Or a big bag of (mod: edited) and expand your mind a bit while reading a pop science book.

    • That’s one big bag of weed for the price of a grinder

    • +1

      Sounds like OP already has a quality grinder for the weed.

  • +6

    Diminishing returns at that point id say

  • +1

    chew_chew: Should I just keep using my built-in grinder
    Why not as it is working as it should and makes good coffee

    I use a cheap electric Sunbeam Grind Fresh and it works perfectly fine. Your getting caught up in all the you tube lies/hype and overspending needing the best when many other cheaper machines perform the same as an expensive one.

    Its just coffee not rocket fuel no masters degree needed

  • +5

    As someone who has fallen fairly deep down the rabbit hole, I think one of the more useful points that Hoffman makes is that new equipment (at the price point you are talking about) should seek to solve some kind of problem. I (reluctantly - given my love of machines) agree. That problem can either be workflow related (something that makes your life easier like dosing by weight as opposed to by time), flavour related (trying to see if you can somehow pull a better shot) or aesthetic (you just really like the look of something). . Also suggest checking out Lance Hedrick's youtube video entitled "MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO I'VE EVER MADE: Ultimate Coffee Grinder Discussion". Has some really good points about the search for the perfect shot and the pitfalls a lot of people fall into (including buying for the sake of buying).

    Another good (but less exciting) option is upgrading what you already have, such as adding a single dose hopper to your built in grinder. This makes it easier to then try out different beans and really explore the full world of coffee and get a really good sense of what you like and dislike. As your palette develops, you will get a better sense of what you are trying to achieve, which then makes it easier to pick any new piece of coffee equipment.

    Hope that helps. Good luck on your coffee journey!

    • Thanks for the detailed reply! Really appreciate it.
      I did watch Lance's video when it came out a few days ago! Definitely insightful and perhaps money could be better spent elsewhere for me at this stage while I develop my palette and to try out different coffee beans!

  • Coffee taste is highly subjective. Once you quit sugar and milk it becomes a whole new treat.
    Taking speed , time wasted for clean up, space used and satisfaction to try new flavours to me nothing beats the huge chouce of capsules.

    • +1

      to me nothing beats the huge chouce of capsules

      For me, nothing beats the café up the road

  • +3

    If you strictly drink milk drinks, I think you'll find very little difference between them and even to your current grinder.

    Going from SGP to P100 I found:
    * very little difference in milk drinks
    * black drinks are far better; can drink espressos when I'm feeling lazy without frowning
    * single dosing is a PITA; we were going through the entire hopper every ~3 days anyway
    * pucks don't come out as clean as before and a lot wetter because of the lack of fines

    What really upgraded my coffee was a change in recipe, try a magic instead of a latte!

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