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Seiko Presage SRPF39J Cocktail Time Automatic Watch $399 Delivered ($20 off with sign up) @ Watch Depot

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Looking for a $500+ watch because of this, and found this, did a search and here we are. I had the Frozen Margarita version of this when they first came out a couple years ago and were selling for about $600 on sale. I think they were supposed to be limited edtitions. I flipped mine because it's not for me. This is a great price if you like this style, and it's actually really nice in person, especially the dial and hardlex dome (hard to get a sapphire dome like that at this price). More pics here: http://web.archive.org/web/20210920032717/https://timeandtid… (link was broken and had to use the Wayback Machine to get a working link. Shout-out to @Muzeeb)… shit, I might buy one, I don't have many brown dials. Going for $560-750 elsewhere

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time 'Margarita' Automatic Watch SRPF39J
-Chocolate Brown Mocha Dial
-Hardlex Glass
-Water resistance
50m / 5ATM / 160ft
-Stainless Steel Milanese Bracelet
-Automatic Movement
4R35
-Clasp Type-Tang Buckle
-Case Diameter: 38.5mm
-Case Thickness: 11.79mm
-Case Material: Stainless Steel
-Hand Winding Capability
-Exhibition Case Back
-Pull-Out Crown

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  • Nooooice! 👍👍

  • +5

    Like the dial, but the rest of the watch doesn't do it justice.

    • +2

      Just ditch the shitty bracelet and get a nice shell cordovan strap

    • Yeah those mesh bands are poxy..

      Btw have a look at the Irish coffee one, probably my favourite and quality strap with clasp.

      • I've been thinking about a "coffee watch" for days because it sounded familiar and I have a SSA345J Espresso Martini. I totally forgot about it lol. I'm still looking for shit to buy with my Shiels vouchers, and they texted me more vouchers which are different to the ones they emailed me so they might not be tied to my account. Let me know if you want them, $150 off $500 is the big one

  • heaps nice

  • +5

    I like the band, but much prefer the blue and green dial versions

    • I had a teal dial, maybe should've kept it

      • +1

        The mojito isn’t much more than this of anyone is interested.

        • I can't do green and gold, but that's just me

          • @rosebank: If you can pull off brown and silver you can easily pull off green and gold! In person it looks so subtle and great

            • @onlinepred: I can do most colour combos, but not green and gold. Green and yellow, sure, but gold? I just can't. It's also weird that the case is stainless and only the hands are gold

              • @rosebank: I know! I tell you, in person, it looks fantastic. I’ve had two friends get into watches after seeing it. Ask my black/white/steel watches never did that. Personally I think the Margarita is the worst colour combo of all presage, but each to their own! There is always the blue with silver numerals if you prefer standard colours. Then again, not really what presage is about.

                I was going to buy the blue and silver one while in Japan, but seeing the green and gold blew them all away!

  • +1

    Nice watch for the price. Personally I find them a bit basic, but would suit as an evening dress watch etc.

    • +6

      Well, it is a dress watch

    • +3

      Yah nothing will ever compare to the Invicta Joker watch :’)

      • +1

        GOAT watch

  • +13

    Bracelet is meh but wonder how it would look with a brown leather strap. Here is the answer.

    Now that's much nicer to me. Very tempting. Maybe a similar strap, half padded with white stitching. Ooooh!

    • +1

      I'm thinking the same. Bourbon cordovan strap that will never get any patina because I barely wear any of my watches.

    • +1

      Damn that looks good!

    • +2

      That is class.

    • +2

      Wow that is so nice!

    • +1

      Swag written all over it. Nice one

    • How/where do you buy that strap ? Can I replace it myself or it has to be in a shop ?

  • Wish they offered a no date option.

    • I own a lot of Seikos, modern and vintage, and the only no date I think I have is the SUT403P

    • +11

      My wife ensures the no date option.

  • -3

    Sapphire or no deal

    • +5

      Go away. You just had to be that guy. "Oh no, not a non-sapphire watch! I must let everyone know I only buy sapphire!"

      • +2

        I agree with you re this comment, though, in this particular case with a timepiece featuring boxed protruding glass, I'd prefer sapphire too.

        • +1

          You cannot get this sort of domed, boxed whatever sapphire at this price. I have many watches that cost way more than this with acrylic crystals and I don't care because they look cool. I have the older Junghans Max Bill Chrono with domed acrylic. They now make it in domed sapphire with almost edgeless glass to case design, but they're still a tiny bit off. Here , check it out your self: https://www.junghans.de/en/collection/watches/junghans-max-b…

          • +1

            @rosebank: My point was merely that exposed crystal beyond the bezel is a good reason for sapphire over hardlex. Acrylic + polywatch is my preference also.

        • +1

          The hardlex crystal on my SARB031 has survived just fine over the years, and I'm pretty sure it's got a higher crystal than this. It's a dress watch. You're not going to be out and jumping around wearing this. Or maybe you are, more power to you.

          Plus they just look sexy.

          • +2

            @MonkDog: I've banged my wrists on door jams enough to prove my own clumsiness and justify my wants 😅

            Edit- Btw I should mention I actually have a cocktail time so I'm not in the slightest saying it's not good value. I'm just well aware Long Island Watch sells the sapphire crystal for it for $69us every black friday and will go that route if and when I need to

      • Yeah you have a protruding glass, it better be sapphire. Enjoy your scratches otherwise.

        • or acrylic and a tube of polyglass for the vintage watches.

        • +1

          I have protuding acrylic on many watches and rarely have to polish them. This is hardlex which is harder. The only crystal I've ever had to replace was a flat sapphire. We can debate crystal types all day.

          Show me a domed sapphire watch for $400. A proper dome like this one, not a slight curve.

          • +1

            @rosebank: yeah depends on the styles - That's why i mentioned vintage as most are polyglass.

            Generally sapphire crystal is the best but some don't want to pay for it. Evening dress watches with an RRP over $750 should definitely be sapphire, it's just Seiko being cheap again and underspec'ing their watches.

            Just don't knock around your stuff or scratch it!.

            • @G-rig: 100%. Hardlex is fine for most people and most use cases, even preferred for diving.

              Then are people who insist everything MUST be sapphire, which is fine, just pay for it.

              • @rosebank: Yes, up to the individual but just depends on the style and price really..
                Seiko are known for not provding sapphire when they should.
                The whole smash vs scratch isn't really selling hardlex though.

          • @rosebank: The fan-favourite San Martin 6200 Water Ghost sports a Seiko movement + domed sapphire for AU $250. If they can do it, surely vertically integrated high-volume Seiko can

            • @Unotifoso: That just looks like a raised box dome, not a seamless dome to case. And your link shows $370 for me

              Either, not the same

              • @rosebank: I didn't link, and AUD$257 but probably +gst.

                I really don't get why you're so unwilling to at least say it could be done, for not much more money, and the community has members like me who would appreciate it.

                After all Marc at Long Island Watch can make profit off sapphire dome 1:1 replacements for $69USD and there are $30 1:1 from less reputable brands. Go watch his video on it.

    • +1

      I also prefer sapphire, worthwhile and keeps your watch looking like new for years.

      Just replace and upgrade it yourself when/if it gets scratched. Not too difficult with some basic tools.

      Don't think any of these will ever see water.

      • In this case it is sort of difficult actually, compared to a dive watch like skx. The boxed crystal is glued in, not pressed, so it's a job involving heat and patience getting it out. Also requires a steady hand and even application of clear crystal cement to reattach the replacement. You can literally see the base of the crystal from the top so if you screw up the application uniformity in the slightest, you're stuck with it.

        I'm sure it's easy for some but it ain't no walk in the park.

        • True, probably a lot harder for this models compared to other Seikos like the tuna, was just a general comment.

          Anyway should be ok if careful and being an evening dress watch it won't be going anywhere too rough hopefully.

  • +1

    sexy

  • +1

    Just looked at the specs, it's got a good short lug to lug. Damn, it does look good in brown.

  • Better than Daniel Wellington?

    • +9

      Nah, you can get two DWs for $400, so already you're up one whole watch even though they look exactly the same. Also, consider the pros of 2x DWs:

      • you can rock them both AT THE SAME TIME for +100 drip
      • 2 different timezones. lol what's the point of GMT/UTC watches? just wear 2 watches
      • cheap workhorse quartz movements, so if one stops, just take it to a key-cutter or cobbler at your local shopping centre and pay $30 for a new battery
      • admiration from teenage girls. Like, "O M G (not 'oh my god', 'oh em gee') is that TWO Daniel Wellingtons with different coloured straps? Can we take a photo to post on insta? I'm an influencer with 200 followers"
      • NATOs are cheap, and that's essentially the only differentiator, so new NATO = new watch

      Yeah, you're probably taking the piss but I'm feeling a bit snarky because I missed my regular afternoon nap.

    • +1

      Daniel Wellington have an auto now(a real watch) - the "Iconic" Link. Unlike this watch it has sapphire. Not just one piece of sapphire, but two!

      You can see that beautiful, undecorated(coz minimalist, duh) Miyota 8215(once again, coz minimalist) movement through a piece of sapphire.

      It may cost more than this with a nice shell cordovan strap… but Sapphire!

      • +1

        oh shit, you should post it as a deal with the 10% off. That ᗡW shit gets me everytime, it's just so quirky and unique.

  • +2

    Upvote because i enjoyed going through the same existential crisis OP did about whether i need this

    • +7

      Mate, I've already said "no more blue, black or green dials!", then I bought a pink dial, and f-ing shiels sends me a bunch of very good vouchers, then I start looking and find this and the more look at it the more I want it even though I already had one and flipped it because I thought it wasn't my jam, but I look at it more and think, "this is kinda nice, I think I'll wear this" but I'll have to buy a $200 cordovan strap, and I'm like, "maybe it's not worth it" and now I'm looking at sneakers.

      • lol i'm looking at a $1000 titanium fountain pen right now after having just bought an $800 titanium watch this morning..

        and i'm trying to save for a trip

        • +1

          I have some nice pens but luckily my handwriting is worse than my GP's, so never really got into it. I was supposed to do SE Asia only, which would have been a relatively cheap trip (minus watch buying in JP and HK), but now it has become an around-the-world trip.

          Show us you G-Shock

          • @rosebank: i have a nifty little bolt-action olight pen i got for free that i use for any rare writing i have to do. otherwise i'd be looking at a $1000 paperweight that's nice to stroke occasionally.

            oh no..budget creep haha. might as well do it. you never know when another pandemic will come along

            would you be shocked that it wasn't a g-shock, but rather this chungus?

            • +1

              @tdw: Jesus, 46mm but at least the lugs are short, and it's titanium so woudn't weight half a kilo. Very industrial and rugged, like the props dept had to make a watch for a post-apocalyptic movie. I dig it.

              • @rosebank: look how thicccc it is lol. how do you think it'd look with those old-school g-shock bull bars?

                • +1

                  @tdw: 15.3mm is like the old 1000m quartz tunas, even beats my thickest watch the Sinn U1 by half a mil

                  You buy weird shit; make my purchases look a little less weird

                  • @rosebank: i'm in the thick of a chunky watch phase i suppose.

                    yeah i've always bought weird shit. almost bought the lume dial aquanerd that was $399 sometime last week. i had a weird feeling something good was coming up this weekend past. Deepak must be tracking my every move lol

                    • +1

                      @tdw: Wait, the full lume Aquanerd was on sale?

                      • @rosebank: Yeah it was either Thursday or Friday last week.

  • +1

    SRPE19J for $400 is also a great deal. Such a spectacular dial!

    • That just a plain old Cocktail Time. That's like regular price. I had one (on leather) given to me as a gift and I sold it for $400

      • +1

        What do you mean by regular price? I’ve been eyeing off a cocktail time and it seems like it’s difficult to source under $500 for brand new.

        • I dunno, they've alway hovered around that price (the plain dial ones). There are currently 4 retailers selling SRPE19J for $400

          • @rosebank: I believe they are all price matching one another.

            Saw it was down to $330 on Starbuy last year. I wonder if its worth it to HODL….

            • @WowBargain: Def HODL, it's not like it's an LE. I remember buying a Citizen, looked almost the same, darker blue sunburst dial, titanium and sapphire for $300. Should've kept it but I sold it.

              • @rosebank: OFT, damnit, I'm too late. Your link is sold out.. When I read sapphire (and reputable brand) for sub-$300 I couldn't refuse..

                Still tossing up on getting OP's one though.. Soo damn beautiful on that brown strap..

                Edit: If StarBuy could pricematch, I'd probably pull the pin.. 😅

                • @WasBargain: Watch depot is owned by Shiels and are authorised dealers. Don't need Starbuy to pricematch, and you don't get the $20 off

                  • @rosebank: Why no $20? 😪 Also, I wanted StarBuy so I could rack up my purchase VIP miles.. 😅

                    • +1

                      @WasBargain: Do Starbuy match the price minus the $20 off sign up thing? Starbuy VIP isn't that special, just early access to sales and super secret codes like $799 for the new solar gmt sumos.

  • +1

    Thanks OP. Bought for $379 using the sign up/VIP $20 Voucher..

  • How is the SNP165P?

    • Kinetic = pass

      • I don't know much about watches. May I ask why Kinetic = pass?

        • It's a type of movement; like an automatic, quartz, or solar etc

          Automatic - all rotors, springs and cogs and shit. Moving your hand "charges" the watch, and when fully charged you get up to 7 days power reserve, but it's typically about 2 days for most autos. Precision/accuracy is dependent on the movement; this particular watch has a 4R35 which is between +45 / -35 second per day and has a 40 hour power reserve. Autos also have a sweeping second hand, in that it's (mostly) a smooth motion, rather than ticking in between seconds. Autos also need to be serviced every 3-5 years, which can be quite costly depending on the watch and movement.

          Quartz - battery powered, highly accurate, second hand ticks i.e. it's like the hand is taking steps between seconds. However, there are quartz movements that have a sweeping second hand, but are relatively uncommon. Battery life depends on the movement and type of battery, but lets say average is about 2-5 years. Battery dies, change the battery, that's it.

          Solar - the dial acts like a solar panel which charges a battery in a quartz movement, so it is also very accurate. Power reserve is about 6 months when fully charged. However, the battery does eventually die and you'll have to replace it. I've only had to do this once for an old Seiko Solar.

          Kinetic - it's like an auto with a rechargeable battery/capacitor. So hand movement swings the rotor that instead of coiling the mainspring in an auto, it charges the capacitor. I think it has a sweeping hand, and I can't remember the power reserve, but it's no where near a solar where you can put it in a drawer for 6 months and pick it up again and it's only off by a minute or so. You'll have to wear it often, not as much as an auto, but the power reserve is not great, unless they improved it since I owned one about 20 years ago. It's like inbetween an Auto and a Solar. If you wear it daily, just get an auto. If it's a watch you'll only wear once in a while get a solar. Kinetic is just weird to me, and I haven't even considered buying another one since I sold mine 20 years ago. This is just my personal experience, I'm sure there are proponents of Kinetics out there with a completely different opinion.

          There are other movements like hand-wind, spring drive etc

          Sorry, I hope this makes sense because I was typing while watching LAK v MEM in OT

          • @rosebank: Thanks a lot for your explanation. I've just done some googling myself before you replied and found kinetic not that bad in my personal perspective. If you leave it unused for a while (days) and then swing it, it can automatically jump to the current date and time if you set the date right before you stop wearing it. So it looks like quite a convenient feature to me as I don't need to wind it as often as the Seiko Prospex I'm wearing.

            Thanks for telling me what you think anyway!

            • +1

              @shenfantasy: I remember reading somewhere that kenetics have issues if not worn a lot. In other words the battery (capacitor) doesn't last as long.

              This isn't as much of an issue with a solar watch because you can leave it somewhere to get light (charge).

  • +2

    The Seiko Presage are a nice looking watch, my all time favourite is in Honeycomb.

    https://www.seikowatches.com/au-en/products/presage/special/…

    • +1

      wow, that is a nice watch. if i was after an 40.5mm dial auto, you know what i'd say - shut up and take my money!

  • +1

    Am I the only one who sees an Arisaka type 99 bolt knurling on the face plate?

    • +1

      Yes.

      Then I Googled it. Now I also see it and I think somehow I like it more now?

      • +1

        Well if you're going to buy a Japanese watch, you might as well go Full-Japan.

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