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PNY CS2241 4TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen4 SSD (5100R/4200W) $299 (Was $399) + Delivery ($0 MEL C&C) @ Scorptec

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p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 09:46 scorptec.com.au (1121 clicks)
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Brand new SSD release, 5100R/4200W, QLC with 900TBW, Phison E21T (has HMB support, "End-to-End Data Protection", Thermal Monitoring).

It's DRAMless but has HMB, will make an excellent main drive for a low/mid mainstream system, or secondary storage for a premium system. Should suit PS5 too, while it's just short of recommended specs; it's much cheaper than those that hit specs and should not be noticeably different. Drives also slow when filled, so more space is generally good for stability.

Another discussion about this unit (same price, JW computers): https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/pny-cs2241

Review - (one benchmark shows 5230R): https://www.impulsegamer.com/pny-cs2241-m-2-2280-nvme-gen-4x…

WizTree: https://diskanalyzer.com/ (cleaning up: even cheaper than buying an SSD)

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  • The Value on 24/04/2023 - 10:01
    +9

    Xbox 1tb expansion is still $349 lol.

    • gromit on 24/04/2023 - 10:19

      Those prices should be about to drop significantly now there is competition for seagate for those.

      • FireRunner on 24/04/2023 - 16:59

        Aren't they all made by Seagate?

        • gromit on 24/04/2023 - 18:03
          +1

          At the moment yes. Western digital just launched one undercutting them in price.

    • BLAIL on 24/04/2023 - 11:07

      might as well get 2TB - cheapest i could fine was $575 or $525 with Ebay Plus

  • Skramit on 24/04/2023 - 10:34
    +5

    Awesome as a Steam folder drive.

  • flypig on 24/04/2023 - 10:38
    +1

    Due to China's Yangtze Memory Technologies catching up with the world's most advanced level in the field of flash memory, the price of SSDs has been plummeting. That's why the United States wants to suppress China's chip industry, because it would cause the U.S. and its allies to lose excessive profits.

    • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 10:43
      +11

      Haha. Yes. I am a big fan of their rejected silicon wafer product on AliExpress. They are very funny. One day they may even make functioning chips! 🌟

      This is a low range product made in Taiwan, and PNY is US owned. The reality is that prices are dropping due to the whiplash effect, which is also the effect destroying Chinas economy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTtK3kHyv7s

      • Sleepycat3 on 24/04/2023 - 11:44
        +2

        Many years ago I bought one of those cheap SATA SSDs off Aliexpress. When left unpowered for 6 months, my test data was lost. In comparison, I have had Intel, Samsung and even an old G.Skill SATA drive from 2009 still retain data after not being powered for 5 years.

        Not going to take the risk on lower tier drives.

        • ColonialBoy on 24/04/2023 - 23:01
          +1

          Crucial makes cheap "low tier" drives that have never failed me. I world not buy a Chinese brand ssd.

      • greatlamp on 24/04/2023 - 18:18
        +1

        *bullwhip effect

        • p3rsonally on 03/05/2023 - 14:48

          Yep. That's the one, thanks!

          Also note: I have un-expired this deal as it seems to be back on.

    • mdlp on 24/04/2023 - 10:43

      Thats true. Shall we support China or U.S.?

      • EightImmortals on 24/04/2023 - 12:17
        -7

        Or Labor or Liberal?

        Same thing.

        • ihfree on 24/04/2023 - 13:21
          +10

          No. People who parrot this line have had their mind captured by media pushing for an apathetic uneducated public. There is a clear difference between the parties.

          • EightImmortals on 24/04/2023 - 14:16
            -3

            @ihfree: lols, since when?
            They are simply 2 heads on the same snake and thought the rhetoric might be different, the main trajectory downwards seems to be moving along regardless of which of them is at the helm at the time. The only reason we have 2 parties is to maintain the illusion of choice.

            • ihfree on 24/04/2023 - 15:49
              +4

              @EightImmortals:

              The only reason we have 2 parties is to maintain the illusion of choice.

              There are more than 2 political parties in Australia.

              • EightImmortals on 24/04/2023 - 16:41

                @ihfree: OK getting off topic so I'll keep it brief, anything other than the main two parties are simply to provide you more false choices/illusion of 'democracy'. Don't believe me? When was the last time someone other than liblab held state or federal power? IIRC it was many decades ago but since that time the rules have been tweeked as has the propaganda techniques employed around election time. Next time an (s)electon is announced watch the scripts in the media, they will immediately start talking about who, out of those two parties will win, as if it's a forgone conclusion. The only time other parties or independents who might possibly be a threat to the status quo get a mention is to subject them to lies and ridicule to make sure people don't look into their policies and might actually vote for them. (anyway I'll leave it there cos as I said, way off topic. PM me if you want to continue the discussion. But I've been around way too long and seen too many elections and their results (or lack thereof) to be convinced by beliefs and theories. :) )

                • ihfree on 24/04/2023 - 16:59

                  @EightImmortals: That's on the people.

                  The media have their own issues and agenda to steer policy in a direction beneficial to them, their owners, sponsors, etc. They have also captured political parties or are closely entwinned with them(eg: Channel 9 fundraiser). Some papers are more blatant, for example the Newscorp tabloids. One of the tactics used is pushing the whole "They're both the same" narrative or "better the devil you know."

                  There is a push in the same direction in certain areas as some issues become political suicide - for example, housing.

                  To a degree, we're already starting to see a shift away from the major parties with the teals and greens. More independents forcing the government to negotiate or even minority governments would likely be closer to what democracy should be.

                  I don't really care to continue the conversation - but if you are interested in the topic, you should have a look into what party introduced what policy and the impact that it had rather than making statements like "Same thing". Newscorp's history is also quite an interesting read.

                • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 17:03

                  @EightImmortals: Mate have you even looked at the composition of the parliament? The idea we have a 2 party system in 2023 is wrong. We have a big party, and then a bunch of smaller parties, a coalition of 2 of the smaller parties may one day be able to go up against Labor but it seems unlikely. For the liberals to elect a PM, they need a nationals deputy, and a bunch of cross-benchers including the new teal independants. Also, Australia has historically changed parties and party names all the damn time, so what you're saying is not only completely inaccurate now, but it's been inaccurate for a while.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_House_of_Representa…

                  • EightImmortals on 24/04/2023 - 17:08

                    @p3rsonally: I guess I can't argue with that but all you've shown is that the situation is even more worse and more farcical than even I have portrayed. :)

                • Micsmit on 24/04/2023 - 18:59

                  @EightImmortals: Representational democracy is the closest thing humans have had to true freedom in history. It is becoming corrupted by major flaws in education and corporate manipulation .But it's the best
                  We've got. Stay off of 4chan

                  • EightImmortals on 24/04/2023 - 19:43
                    -1

                    @Micsmit: Lols, OK mate. :)
                    I think it was Churchill who said 'democracy' (not that we have ever one) is the worst form of government ever..apart from all the rest. There is no representation and no democracy. I would like to see such a system for real though. Just to see how it would work, it might fail but at least it would have the virtue of never having been done before.

                    If you think I am wrong then please point me to the formal mechanism whereby 'we the people' can direct government in what we do or do not want them do.

                    • Micsmit on 29/04/2023 - 12:26

                      @EightImmortals: Have you ever talked to or written to your local member?

                    • Micsmit on 29/04/2023 - 12:39

                      @EightImmortals: No representation and no democracy? That's China mate. You've got your countries confused.

                      Our democracy isn't perfect. And your rhetoric sounds like this post-truth/trumpist , anti-vax/flat earth/Russian bot farm rubbish that is choking our actual democracy. It dilutes and confuses like radio static next to a microwave oven.

              • Micsmit on 24/04/2023 - 18:57

                @ihfree: Learnt political philosophy in the matrix

      • Jstrrrr on 24/04/2023 - 12:35
        +5

        Neither side is more virtuous than the other. Both put out propaganda that self serves. Given we are an ally of the USA, we are actually more exposed to US propaganda than Chinese. At the end, as Aussies, clearly we should vote with Aussie interest in mind - which, may well include switching sides to support the Chinese if that's what benefits us.

        • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 14:10

          If we switch to any side it should be ASEAN, not China. It would never make sense for us to align with them. The world is not bilateral, Asia is diverse and dislikes any bullies; just like Australia. Unlike ASEAN, Australia has a habit of frank communication, whereas ASEAN has a habit of acting without saying a word. The net effect is the same, but at least with us you know why it's happening.

          At the moment I don't see the USA bullying China, if anything, it simply trusted them without justification, and is now swinging back in the other direction of not trusting them without justification. In US public business discussions there is no nuance, just uneducated bullshit and herd mentalities. This also applies to China, India, Brazil, Russia, and any other large country. Their real business happens in private and we have no idea what goes on. Europe ASEAN and smaller nations are forced to be steady, nuanced, and honest. This is the best outcome for the people. Larger countries are erratic and two-faced because of the amount of money involved in them. It would be better for the world if they were all smaller and we had more integrity and diversity in trade and diplomacy.

          Realistically China might be more interesting to talk to when they stop punching themselves in the face, so to speak. For a country that cares so much about face they should probably try harder not to be so laughable. Their economic situation has made them smaller, which is good. It has also made the US larger, which is bad… but we have no control over that, and you know, if the US wants to trust us, India, and ASEAN; like they used to trust China, that's a good deal. We should be careful just as China wasn't, but for now it's a good deal…

          All of this has no place in a discussion on the price of a PNY CS 2241 4TB M.2 NVMe SSD at Scorptec.

        • Micsmit on 29/04/2023 - 12:27
          -1

          Pretty clear one side wants to take away social services to pay for corporate and and millionaire tax cuts.

    • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 11:24
      +3

      Yangtze Memory Technologies' market share isn't that large and the main issue is that we are not seeing any real bargain deals with SSDs using Yangtze Memory Technologies (the proper grade ones).

      Yangtze Memory are not selling their more advanced NAND at a dirt cheap price and their so called most advanced level NAND chips are not available in bulk (and won't be cheap). Then, there is the controller issue.

      The reality is YMTC isn't competitive in PCIe gen 4 offerings and it is too little too late to compete in that market. Sure, their 232L NAND is announced, but until YMTC is willing to sell them at bargain price for PCIe gen 4 SSDs, it is pretty useless to OZBers. The current issue is YMTC NANDs are too expensive in low cost / cost effective grade SSDs. The fact that YMTC has 128L QLC shows they too cannot keep the cost down way above other makers (otherwise, why not flood the market with their TLC NAND chips at QLC prices).

      • ugulgif on 24/04/2023 - 16:11

        As mentioned in your other comment, the purchase volume is a vital factor that prevents cheap Chinese SSDs coming to Australia.

        There are brands in China using YMTC NAND selling 2TB PCIe4.0 for $120 AUD and PCIe3.0 for less than $100, I haven't seen any other brands using inferior Crucial NAND beat that price.

        Some 2TB SSDs using YMTC 232L TLC NAND are currently sold at $130 AUD. Sure, these brands use mixed NANDs of different grades and reliability is definitely not something to brag about.
        The more proper brands are constantly selling 2TB with 232L TLC NAND for $220, that's not a bad price either.

        • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 20:06

          Why don't you provide links to those deals here? Post them here so we can have a look. Inferior Crucial NAND based SSDs are available on AliExpress. One OZBer mentioned he is getting one just for fun. Right now, the cheapest PCIe gen 3 x4 2TB with 5 year warranty was $108.

          There are comments from a YMTC supporters indicating certain batches of YMTC NANDs have issues and mixed NAND means it is not certain you can get the right batch.

          The more proper brands are constantly selling 2TB with 232L TLC NAND for $220, that's not a bad price either.

          List them, though honestly, that's not really that great. SN850X was $252, so unless you really love YMTC, I don't really see it being that big of a deal. Saving money on SSD currently is something we use to numb our brain. SN850X is an overkill for most of us, so is YMTC 2TB 232L.

          • ugulgif on 24/04/2023 - 22:56

            @netsurfer:

            There are brands in China using YMTC NAND selling 2TB PCIe4.0 for $120 AUD and PCIe3.0 for less than $100

            Like I said, these are available in China (from the official store of these brands, e.g., Fanxiang, the $120 PCIe4.0 model I talked about is sold on aliexpress for $158 delivered). I know it means nothing for consumers in Australia, but again, that's not due to YMTC not being able to make cheap ass NAND, but more of a import/market volume problem.

            The more proper brands are constantly selling 2TB with 232L TLC NAND for $220

            Yes YMTC is kinda known for selling inferior/minorly defective batches to third party brands at low prices (hence the dirt cheap SSDs), but this one is actually from their subsidiary brand ZhiTai, which is not known for using mixed NAND (they once had some controller problem on their old 4.0 model but that's no longer the case).

            I'm using SN850X and 980Pro as my system drives so I don't consider myself a YMTC supporter. The point I'm trying to make is that they are making cheap NAND in bulk in China and an important reason they're rarely seen in the market is that no local retailer is importing them, no matter it's due to reliability concerns, politics, lack of consumer confidence or whatever.

            Just in case we're talking past each other, I'm not only replying to your comment above (about how it matters for OZBers), but to your other comments (e.g., they can't even match price in China) as well.

            • netsurfer on 25/04/2023 - 14:39

              @ugulgif: Can you just provide links to those deals? How hard is that?

              ZhiTai, YMTC, the main issue is their past records and that other company helping them sell the inferior / rejected NAND are checkered at best. ZhiTai, YMTC made no real effort solving those past issues. It's too easy to go the new batches don't have this issue. They are too new to tell.

              There are SSDs with YMTC NAND being sold here. They are just no popular enough and no retailers are willing to sell them in bulk to lower the price. AliExpress, there is only a limited window where AliE will help you. Furthermore, if it is shipped via AliE, you have very little chance winning item not delivered case. Really need to see links to the deals because I know there are items on AliE with unreal prices that I want but the seller has ZERO stock to sell it. Such deals are clickbaits. It's like I list SN850X 2TB for $89 but has zero item available for sell.

                • p3rsonally on 25/04/2023 - 14:53

                  @ugulgif: It's the same price here, once you add GST.

                  e.g. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/766251
                  https://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=2tb+nvme

                  • ugulgif on 25/04/2023 - 15:04

                    @p3rsonally: The prices on jd include tax, and they offer free delivery.

                    Again, I'm not arguing YMTC is better or that the global SSD price drop is mainly due to them entering the competition, just saying they are actually making cheap NAND (and SSDs, with plenty stock) and hence are gradually taking up market share of Micron, WD, etc. in China.

                • netsurfer on 25/04/2023 - 15:38

                  @ugulgif: Thanks for the link. Questions, how do you buy from JD using AUD? Is there an English version of the Web site or Google Translate is the only way? Do they support PayPal or only credit card payments?

                  Fanxiang 2TB SSD, someone mentioned the NAND happened to be an older YMTC batch and he wouldn't actually recommend that one. Also, I don't actually feel mid tier PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs are worth it for the following reasons:

                  • The cost cutting means they are limited to 4 channels (controller cost cutting) - so still crippled.
                  • No DRAM. If I am after cheap SSD, I might as well go PCIe gen 3 x4 DRAMless.

                  I don't quite get the appeal of mid range PCIe gen 4 x4, other than they do well in benchmarks for low workload situation. Also, to me, getting SSDs with proper warranty here is important, especially for SSDs which cost more than $100. I cannot complain about Samsung gave me a better SSD as warranty replacement or the full refund after 4 years from a local retailer for my failed Kingston SSD. Even the junk OCZ years ago, I got a full refund.

                  ZhiTai, newest batch of SSDs, I am somewhat interested, but I need to figure out the warranty side of things. Other Chinese brands with YMTC (with dodgy Web site), sorry, there is no need to cheap out that much. My current view with AliE purchases, if I care about long term warranty of an item, then I wouldn't buy it from AliE.

    • RedHab on 24/04/2023 - 11:53
      +2

      Prices are dropping mainly due to a huge oversupply of NAND flash and chips in general. Mostly due to people putting off buying new PCs and phones post Covid and increased production capacity at Samsung, Micron and Microchip.

    • spc12go on 24/04/2023 - 12:25
      +1

      Every country slap tariffs and ban on each other. China ban coal, wine, seafood and others from Australia for no valid reason except Australia asked WHO to investigate the origin of COVID.

      • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 13:08

        No, that's not the issue. It's about purchase volume. Amazon purchased so many units from WD, Samsung etc… Amazon can bargain on price.

        The store I went to get cheap PNY SSDs, that store has a big box of PNY SSDs. AU distributors don't import enough YMTC based SSDs.

        There is another factor, reliability. I saw a Chinese YouTuber indicating his store would much prefer to sell WD or Samsung SSDs. There is another brand (which I won't mention) which uses YMTC based NAND. It may not be the NAND itself, but when makers cut cost, they use cheaper components throughout and could be other inferior grade components causing high failure rate.

        That youTuber said: if you believed Chinese NAND chips and SSDs are so great, you should use them yourself in your systems.

      • Jstrrrr on 24/04/2023 - 13:32
        +1

        Every infectious disease that has ever existed originated from somewhere. It's just what happens in nature. Trump asked to investigate China as a political move that benefitted him. Unfortunately Australia decided to join in for no real gain to the Aussies. China didn't like it, so decided to import less products from Australia as a result. This is a perfectly good reason if you are able to think from their perspective. There will be, as always has been, new viruses that has to originate from somewhere. You can bet historically a good amount would have originated from USA, or Australia, or New Zealand, or France, or UK, or whatever country. Should we investigate each virus for their country of origin and then attempt to blame a country for it? It's just the course of nature. We Aussies need to decouple ourselves from blindly following USA, and look out for our own interests in international relations.

        • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 13:43
          +2

          You are going off topic and it's silly you mentioned Covid origin dispute in your argument.

          The whole point about post Covid SSD demand drop is that, people have already purchased their IT gears for working from home purposes. Tech companies benefited from Covid at its peak. You are the one who are fixated on the origin and you've brainwashed by Chinese media. Sure, AU media is biased too, but we know the politicians were playing games here for their political gain.

          Before you assume other people are gullible, you need to prove that when you are talking about tech, you are not gullible to the BS Chinese media trying to feed you. Stop blaming other countries. We get dirt cheap goods from China here. If YMTC really wanted to shock the market, flood the market with half price NAND chips.

          Heaps of dodgy Chinese SSDs (dirt cheap grade) use Crucial inferior grade NAND instead of YMTC, you should tell them to switch to YMTC first. That's one of the actual issues. Other NAND makers are happy to dumb inferior grade NAND at a price YMTC cannot match in China (to those cheap SSD makers, screw country loyalty, just get cheap NAND from the cheapest supplier). 232L NAND at discounted price, please, give me a break, YMTC is there to make profit. YMTC has no interest to crash the market because that hurts YMTC too.

    • greatlamp on 24/04/2023 - 18:15

      Not really, they want to suppress China's access to technology, not profits. The primary concern is China's military gaining technological superiority over the USA.

  • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 10:54
    +2

    Meanwhile in China a brand new 8TB SSD just got released for only $539 AUD and it is PCIE 4.0 with Phison PS5018-E18 Controller + Toshiba BICS 5 TLC + DRAM. Thanks China for the competition :)

    • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 10:57
      +2

      Pretty bad competition, I’m assuming that price excludes GST, shipping, and has no local warranty. So, it would be more expensive than 2 of these. Also notable that it’s never been posted on OzBargain or anywhere with a buy button, there are no reviews… Almost like it doesn’t actually exist.

      Maybe it’s like these https://youtu.be/RCtN6O-vXhE

      • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 11:11

        Well i didn’t mention anything that it’s sold here. I would expect it to be sold in China for a long time until it will enter the oversea market. It’s just a good news for China PC DIY market that they don’t need to stick with all these big boi brands.

        • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 11:21

          Sorry, why would that matter on OzBargain, which is about Australia? Also I would appreciate it if you would stop switching between your sock puppet accounts and just stick to one.

          • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 11:54
            +2

            @p3rsonally: I’m just stating the fact that SSD market is getting more competitive now and we would see more price drop in the future. That’s what matter for ozbargain - more price drop in the future. And I would appreciate it if you would stop assuming I have multiple accounts cuz this is my only one.

            • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 12:06
              +3

              @nelladream: PNY appears to drop YMTC in their cost effective NVMe SSDs. Granted, they opted for cheaper ones from other makers. Furthermore, if the Chinese offerings are so great, why are we still looking at Phison E18?

              I am willing to give Innogrit's IG5236 and YMTC a try, but I am not going to pay extra for them. It's nuts that they cost more here.

              Also, if you really want to show China having great SSDs for much cheaper for their own people, show one that doesn't seem like have a dodgy setup, especially for 8TB.

              As RedHap mentioned earlier, Samsung, WD/Toshiba/Sandisk, Hynix/Intel, Micron made too many NAND chips and the demand for SSDs dropped off sharply after Covid. That's what's pushing the price down. We don't see any fire-sale from YMTC. In fact, a lot of dirt cheap / shocking grade Chinese SSDs use inferior / rejected grade Micron NAND. YMTC is not doing home town discount.

            • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 13:57

              @nelladream: yeah you're good, but there are a bunch of obvious sock-puppets here if you look at their comment histories. Sorry I lumped you in with them.

              • JajaMinx on 26/04/2023 - 16:16

                @p3rsonally: I think you need to chill… I don't understand why you would take this personally. You're getting all agitated and angry just because China is bringing competition which is good for consumers.

      • wtran168 on 24/04/2023 - 11:49
        +3

        No idea about this Chinese brand but 2x 4tb is not the same as 1x 8tb. Try and find a 8tb nvme drive for under $1500.

    • toasty on 24/04/2023 - 11:39
      +1

      Hi @nelladream, if you think it’s better value, why not post it as a deal?

      While I still prefer to use reliable, well established brands for my storage needs, I’m sure there are others here who would be more willing to take a gamble.

      • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 12:03
        +2

        Because it’s just released. I’ll keep an eye on it once it’s available

    • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 11:48
      +2

      That's an odd combination. Furthermore, Phison E18 is manufactured by TSMC, Toshiba NAND, not sure where it is made. Anyway, that combination is a cost cutting setup, which means you cannot look at the benchmark data from other reviews.

      Honestly, if the most cost effective BICS 5 TLC were to be used, then E18 is there mainly to trick people. That's the thing with all these hyped up Chinese "so consumer friendly" products. Corners are cut. If the aim is to show Westerners they've been ripped off, use flagship components and sell at 50% of the price.

      We also know some Chinese people abused WD and Samsung warranty policies which gave WD and Samsung (and Intel) excuses to provide inferior warranty support. If OZBers were to purchase SSDs from China, they will be subject to the same inferior support.

      • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 12:17

        More like Kioxia TLC NAND, I believe the third-party packaging may be Phison packaging, because Phison mostly uses Kioxia. Yes it’s cost cutting setup but with this price there is no complain tho. It’s actually a brand from Taiwan not from Mainland so I’m hoping it could be released in oversea soon so that we can benefit from it as well. I don’t mind using it as a game storage.

        • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 12:24
          +1

          Kioxia is owned by Toshiba anyway. It's just silly to get Phison E18 with Kioxia 112L NAND for example. Care to show a link to that product? Honestly, it feels really dodgy. If NAND got changed, it is likely the DRAM would be reduced.

          It's not good that we are seeing corner cutting on Phison E18 SSDs, but that seems dumb as well, if Kioxia 112L were to be used, just use Phison E21.

          • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 19:02

            @netsurfer: Read it from Chiphell and it’s called Topmore Virgo. No idea why E18 is used I’m still waiting for more review

            • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 20:22
              +1

              @nelladream: Well, 2GB DRAM (another corner cut), subpar NAND. I'd be honest with you:

              • Even at that price, getting a 8TB SSD is for people with deep pocket. If you really have legit reason to use 8TB for work, surely you get your company to pay for it or you own a company that you can expense it.
              • Kioxia 112L NAND on a 8TB SSD, that's a big corner cut. Kioxia 112L NAND is PCIe gen 3 grade NAND.
              • Based on translation, some people are indicating it is bait and switch, the listing is not available for purchase anymore.
              • Warranty, is it through seller? The listing I've seen just looks dodgy.

              Come on, people, if you want to really show Chinese SSDs are so great, you can afford to list a legit deal (and they should still be cheaper).

              • nelladream on 24/04/2023 - 21:26

                @netsurfer: Yes yes yes… all corner cuts and subpar NAND. But can you find me a 8TB SSD that is less than $1500? I’ve already explained that I would mainly use it as game storage. As an itx user I only have 2 slots. So this is the better value option. Base on my research, it’s originally listed on JD and sold for a while until it’s delisted. If it’s sold on JD then warranty is covered by JD. Come on other greedy SSD corporates, if a small company can do 8TB for this price using corner cut method, surely u can do it with even cheaper price to kick the competitors out :)

                • netsurfer on 25/04/2023 - 14:52
                  +1

                  @nelladream: Honestly, you should get one and do a video of the unboxing. From what I read, people are complaining about the seller not able to honor the 8TB deal.

                  I know you are going to enforce Phison E18 8TB rule. However, you are the one who needs to prove it. I have NEVER made any claim about 8TB SSD at a price. Don't put your words into my mouth.

                  Prove you can get one at $539. Better yet, prove at least 10 people from OZ community can get one each. Surely for such a great deal to you, you should have no issue committing and getting one.

  • test123123 on 24/04/2023 - 11:46
    +1

    Great price. Need a bit more to pull trigger

  • flyingnoddy on 24/04/2023 - 12:04
    +1

    Anyone actually tried one of these in a PS5? would love some confirmation before grabbing it!

    • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 12:11
      +4

      Phison E21 and PCIe gen 4 x4 enabled so it should work. All Phison E21 based SSDs are technically below recommended specs, but a lot of PS5 owners don't care and PS5 doesn't block SSDs below recommended speed.

      However, since it is QLC, when you transfer files from internal SSD to that, once the SLC cache is depleted, the write speed is slow. It doesn't affect game play (since game play uses read mostly).

      • flyingnoddy on 24/04/2023 - 12:17

        Thanks netsurfer… and yes, fine with some slower write speeds if/when moving things around/installing. Cheers!

        • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 13:59
          +1

          Yep, and it'll only really slow down once it has like 3TB of games on it…

  • edisonAU on 24/04/2023 - 13:38
    +1

    Would this be a good drive as primary boot drive for Windows 11? I have an existing 1TB drive on my laptop, and I am looking to clone to this drive, and have existing 1Tb drive as secondary storage. My Legion 5 Pro supports 2 slots of NVME SSD

    • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 14:03
      +1

      Maybe. What is the P/N of the primary SSD? You can find out with CrystalDiskInfo.

      If you have two slots, and the primary has a DRAM cache or better specs, you can keep the primary you currently have and use this as a secondary drive. You can just move your steam library or documents onto the second disk.

      If you're thinking of doing things like heavy DB/AI tasks, software compilation, CAD, etc, on this disk; then I'd get something better. This will just about handle video editing and gaming pretty well.

      Broadly, I would consider using it as a boot device if your PC/laptop total cost is under $2k.

      • edisonAU on 24/04/2023 - 14:20

        My existing 1Tb drive is SK Hynix HFS001TDE9X084N. However, there is not much info about this SSD drive. Would the PNY one be better?

        • p3rsonally on 24/04/2023 - 14:48
          +1

          I honestly don't know, but I suspect it wouldn't be appreciably different. As you have two slots anyway, I'd just use both slots… No sense in leaving the other slot empty.

    • whats up skip on 24/04/2023 - 15:05
      +2

      Just be careful about HMB SSD as their performance is very dependent on your particular system:

      "First, the host system and OS need to support HMB and NVMe 1.2 specs. This is because the main memory needs to be allocated for these tasks. Second, the SSD itself needs HMB-specific functions in its controller and firmware."

      https://www.servethehome.com/what-are-host-memory-buffer-or-…

    • jmytch on 25/04/2023 - 12:27

      Yes will be fine

  • Jstrrrr on 24/04/2023 - 13:51
    +1

    Thanks OP. Good price. Bought one.

  • Sam816 on 24/04/2023 - 15:36
    +3

    Good thing I came to comment section to get views on the drive 🤦‍♂️

  • adam149 on 24/04/2023 - 16:25
    -2

    Did a quick Amazon search and there are a number of 2tb M.2 NVME drives faster and cheaper than this ($220-$250). They are coming from overseas but you'd still be covered by warranty.
    Not sure what I'm missing and why this is so popular.

    • flyingnoddy on 24/04/2023 - 16:39
      +2

      because this is 4 Gigawatts? not 1.21Gigawatts?

    • Dogsrule on 24/04/2023 - 17:34
      +5

      a number of 2tb M.2 NVME drives

      Not sure what I'm missing and why this is so popular.

      This deal is for a 4tb drive.

      • adam149 on 24/04/2023 - 21:34
        +1

        My bad

  • Micsmit on 24/04/2023 - 19:00

    Pretty crazy getting gen4 down to $75 a tb. Wow

    • netsurfer on 24/04/2023 - 20:23

      Because it is QLC and that's "normal". Kingston NV2, which crippled the performance (but still supports PCIe gen 4) has already been lower than that.

  • Liamhos08 on 25/04/2023 - 11:32

    Shopping is currently free & click & collect is also available in NSW & QLD.

  • JajaMinx on 26/04/2023 - 11:57

    Funny when clowns are turning the choice of SSD into a political issue… dude, talk BS about China all you want but everything is made in China. It's simply ignorant to say Chinese brands are forever crap.

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