Saw this ad for hydrogen fuel kits.
Has anyone used them before or know if they even work?
Hydrogen Fuel Systems: Are They Legit or Even Work?
godofpizza on 20/03/2023 - 12:18
Last edited 20/03/2023 - 12:32 by 1 other user
Last edited 20/03/2023 - 12:32 by 1 other user
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This is not a DIY Installation. Warrenty conditions REQUIRE that our Hydrogen Systems Must be fitted by a Qualified Automotive Tradesman/ AUTO ELECTRICIAN
some people have made hydrogen at home but usually they did that to make a bomb of some kind in germany during a certain world war… :D
No it does not work.
Good to see Frontpage alive and well :D
No. They dont work. The law of thermodynamics says so. Plenty of YouTube debunking videos.
Burning Hydrogen is probably the least efficient way of extracting energy from it.
so it is a scam website or some bloke selling snake oil dreams?
Yes.
What mskeggs says…
I mean, come on… $88 for a HHO generator for a large truck… You work out of it is a scam or not…
Correct. What they're claiming the machine can do is against the law.
repacked "car runs on water" scam
Would work well if you had a perpetual motion machine to power it.
In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
Alarm bells:
- email looks dodgy
- phone number not formatted correctly
- fluro bright green colours
- social links are just to the sites not to their actual pages.
- $88
- My mum hasn't called me about this wonder device yet.
I had a read of the "Testing Reports South Australia Department of Transport, Murdoch University" link. It's a project by a student who tried it on a single cylinder diesel engine and references all kinds of whacko websites. My favourite bit though
In all, five hours out of a total 35 hours of test data was deemed valid, after discounting temperature interference, instrument failures, and process modifications. At the 35 hour point the engine began operating too erratically and often failing to operate at all such that no valid data could be derived from it. Unfortunately there was insufficient time for troubleshooting and repair, so testing was halted.
So yay, it broke.
Hydrogen Fuel Systems: Are They Legit or Even Work?
Who cares…
That was yesterday…I'm getting this…
if people want to fill up and line up at petrol station with very little savings, instead of charging from home over night never waiting, having access to FREE charging in alot of shopping centers Australia wide, and not only that having a massive range of charging stations. Then sure go for a Hydrogen car. But to be honest todays generation knows better its only the "older generation" that wants to still fill up at a petrol station. Hydrogen pumps infrastructure are so complicated to build and setup and have alot more potential to go wrong than seting up a charging station, the other reason is charging stations can be setup by companies completly off grid with free energy from solar like Tesla has done in the U.S. Hydrogen is the auto industries last attempt to save the "traditional" car industry, it is not the future. The last thing is Hydrogen when unstable tends to blow up thats why Hydrogen bombs exist. This is similar to whole "natural gas" saga all over again. Hydrogen is now the next to start a new chapter.
Erm Hydrogen bomb is a lot different than a Hydrogen power cell, their mechanic are completely different and their "fuel" are also different. Just because they are both based on Hydrogen don't make them the same thing. Also for off grid clean energy storage, hydrogen makes a lot of sense. In fact it's likely that you will see EV charging station with Hydrogen Fuel cell as storage instead of Lithium battery.
never heard of a electrical bomb before, but I am away there are a few more things you need to do to make a hydrogen bomb, but any one that know how Hydrogen works oxygen is highly flamable in a confined space and can explode with enough pressure.. And I am fully aware how Hydrogen works, and how it "fuels" vehicles alot of parts alot of technology that is involved to make it possiable to function, vs an electical vechical that has minimal parts to contend with and is a less complex technology to manufacture. Hydrogen in cars doesn't make sence, but it is a way to continue to charge you through the roof for servicing costs and create a monopoly on fuel pricing. Hydrogen cars will never be cost effective. If you want Clean "energy" and all that environmental BS people go on about, then maybe you shouldn't use electricity in your home or any where else because it ALL COMES FROM THE SAME POWER STATIONS. if you look at how much carbon is generated from making hygrogen and electric cars its way above that of carbon generated by making a petrol car. So the whole "I buy evs or hygrogen cars to save the environment" is a load of crap, cars dont even make 50% of the cabon emissions world wide.
Hydrogen car is essentially EV using Fuel Cell. There's as much servicing cost required as a BEV.
Hydrogen bomb is not an electrical bomb, it's a nuclear bomb and highly radioactive. It has nothing to do with how flammable hydrogen is.
Hydrogen using clean energy makes sense because it's a storage medium. It's also much lighter than Lithium battery to store the same amount of energy. A Toyota Mirai is like 400-500kg lighter than a Model S for the same range.
@Bigboomboom: ok clearly you didn't understand what I meant by "electrical bomb" it was sarcasm for they dont' exist… but a hydrogen bomb does, thats what it was in relation to the fact I had to explained that means you didn't see the link, clearnly you haven;t looked at Teslas, which have almost zero servicing, but there is alot of moving parts and parts that can fail in a hydrogen vehicle and there is more servicing required for those kinds of vechicles. not only because its more complex its because dealships would want to profit from servicing like they do now. Hydrogen’s “dirty secret” is that it is produced primarily from fossil fuels. Thus, whether hydrogen is really “clean” depends on the method of production. Inreality there is no such thing is clean fuel or energy. Hydrogen cars right now are pretty useless since there is no infrasture in Australia, and major markets like China want nothing to do with Hydrogen cars. It will be a very hard sell when it comes to hydrogen cars.
@kungfuman: Mate, a FCEV doesn't have a lot more moving part then a BEV. What are you on about? FCEV uses electric motor, it has no combustion engine no gear no transmission shaft required. In fact Hyundai made a prototype 500kW Hydrogen car with Big battery hybrid, where the Hydrogen tank primarily feed to the battery to run the motor. I repeat it again, Hydrogen car like Mirai or Nexo are electric car with fuel cell. The only difference to BEV is where the electricity is stored.
@Bigboomboom: the difference is Hydrogen cars need to generate the electricity to charge the battery where is standard evs just store energy the only thing that you could classify as "generating electricity" on an EV is from regen braking. But there is nothing that fuels the car to generate electricity. There are more parts to contend with in a hydrogen car because not just the battery but the parts that generate the power, and you need to deal with tanks and various parts to generate the power to store in the battery. if you open up both you will see there are more parts to worry about in a hydrogen car than there are in an EV. In a standard EV all you need to worry about is the battery and nothing else. Hydrogen cars don't have a 10th of the market share evs have and China one of the biggest consumers don't even want them, they stick with standard evs. The technology came way too late, and the only ones that want a hydrogen car are people that want to go to a petrol station still (older generation) Unless they have hydrogen at home fillups it's going to be a tough sell for most people.
@kungfuman: Mate, BEV also have inverter DC to AC otherwise how do they run their motor? Also how do they charge with AC? Hydrogen car has similar inverter but instead generating energy to feed into the motor directly and only whatever unneeded to the battery. In BEV you got much bigger battery, 30-100 times larger and more complex than Hydrogen car. In FCEV all you got is the Hydrogen tank and a much smaller battery. They have the same "service" requirement and no "moving parts" difference.
FYI China doesn't make FCEV cars, they make big freaking trains.
https://www.domusweb.it/en/sustainable-cities/gallery/2023/0….They also plan 50,000 FCEV cars by 2025
https://daxueconsulting.com/hydrogen-vehicles-china/#:~:text….They already have 8,000 FCEV cars in 2020.
Not really what this thread is about. It’s about a special unit that attaches to petrol vehicle and magically injects hydrogen to also magically reduce the use of fossil fuels, not remove it.
Cars built solely for hydrogen power are a completely different ball game.
"This is not a DIY Installation" awww. in Hindenburg.