One of the best lower mid range gaming monitors is on sale again, this time a bit closer to ATL of $497.
rtings review: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b
LG 27GP850-B 27" 165Hz QHD UltraGear Gaming Monitor $524 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ JB Hi-Fi
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S2721DGF is cheaper and maybe not as good, depending on what you need - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2721dgf
Seems expensive for a "lower mid range gaming monitor"
Yup, when spending $130 or so more can get you a good QHD 240Hz monitor, it's a hard ask.
Just another reminder that manufacturers and retailers need to stop dicking consumers around.
I haven't seen them around for a while, but I bought my Samsung G5 with identical specs to this (and rated the same by rtings for gaming) for $300 mid last year
This is a lot better than the G5, which I would argue is worth $250 at best. I would want to pay around $380 for this updated LG.
@jasswolf: People always say "oh this dell/LG is so much better than G5", but again, the specs are literally identical (1440p, 165hz, IPS, 27"), and the rtings ratings vary by +/- 0.1 apart from hdr where this lg has a +0.3 advantage.
What makes these dell/LG monitors so much better?
@OZKap: I'm curious, too. Skimming the specs and reviews they look similar enough that a decision would be made on price, I reckon.
@OZKap: Putting aside that the LG also clocks to 180Hz, the problem is you're gauging it based on RTings measurements, which are flawed. The real data in their review is the motion pursuit capture image comparison.
Notice that while both images are heavily blurred (text and logos are a lot wider than the test image), you can see very clearly the spaces inside the letters are a lot narrower on the Dell due to slower response times.
Here's a comparison between a pretty fast TN panel and the LG: now you're actually starting to see clearly that the logo has a black outline to it, which is seemingly missing from the IPS images.
Here's review data using more modern testing methods that better represent how we see blur, and you can see that LG is distinctly faster than the Dell.
Finally, here's the Dell against your Samsung, where you can see that edges are a lot less defined.
@Diji: If you can see there difference here, you can see the difference in use, that's the point of motion pursuit photography.
In that same vein, you can see the difference between something being thrown across your vision and track it better than an identical video experience captured at 1000 FPS and shown on current display technology.
$500ish FHD 360Hz TN should be in the mix over the next 6 months, and that represents the value oriented expression of this push.
@jasswolf: I guess it's a moot point since I don't think you can even buy the G5 but if it was a choice between a G5 for $250 and the Dell for 399 I'm not sure I'd stretch to the Dell judging by charts and images. It helps that I use an ancient monitor and I've come to realise that I'd usually rather save money at the expense of visual quality. But I'm not big into the blur buster thing. Paying $500 for a 24" monitor seems wacky and if it's 27" at that res then it seems like you may as well not bother with crisp motion when the lower pixel density is extremely noticeable but I'm not a competitive gamer by any means.
@Diji: I mean, that's exactly what I wrote at the start of this chain: $250 for the G5, which I don't rate at all for gaming, $380 for the LG, which puts the Dell around $320ish.
$500 for 360Hz, it's image clarity like you've never seen before. 24" FHD pixel density is usable for gaming… the bigger concern is any visible banding on the colour gradient.
I mean, that's exactly what I wrote at the start of this chain
Sorry, brain don't work good and I didn't see it.
$500 for 360Hz, it's image clarity like you've never seen before. 24" FHD pixel density is usable for gaming… the bigger concern is any visible banding on the colour gradient.
For some reason I thought high refresh rate TNs would be much cheaper by now but I don't monitor that class of monitor (pun very much intended :P) since I'm pretty sure my PC would struggle to maintain anywhere near 360 FPS outside of moving the cursor around the desktop lol. My interest is currently console-compatible 4K monitors because a console switch might be on the horizon for me if it gets to a point where there's a AAA game that I can't play on my computer before graphics cards become more affordable.
@Diji: The mature stuff is, when it's in stock. I've seen $330ish 240Hz, $150ish 144Hz. The order volumes just tend to suck because the blogosphere and google destroy niche markets for goods in Australia, and the 'IpS iS tHe GrEaTesT EvEr tHinG iN tHe WoRLd' argument kids scream destroys any other logic (though I use the term lightly in the original context).
@jasswolf: IPS is just the ideal middle ground for me because I slouch and recline like crazy. Personally I'd prefer that fast VA from Samsung because contrast in IPS panels seems to be going nowhere but I haven't seen it in any cheaper models yet.
750$ for 1440p 240Hz? What monitor?
Samsung G7/G6, but your money will get an OLED equivalent soon enough.
@[Deactivated]: Wrong conclusion about the G6 & G7 give you're probably buying it for multimedia rather than colour work or productivity, and wrong historical data on OLED technology and product price cycles, including OLED monitors using LG and Samsung panels, even models using that very panel.
If you're going to ask for my advice then immediately tell me it's all wrong, I'm going to leave you to do your own reading instead of doing it for you.
I fail to see how pointing out the panel is VA is a wrong conclusion? It's a tradeoff
If you knew anything about response time measurements, you'd realise it's one of the fastest LCD monitors on the market: faster than 360Hz IPS, virtually up to speed with 360Hz TN and 240Hz OLED. It's also got more contrast than TN or IPS. If you're viewing front on, there's no real problems, only advantages.
So yes, you do fail to see some things.
It's painfully obvious there is no historical data on the OLED 240hz QHD as the LG is the first to market, followed (soonTM) by the Asus and Acer Predator models.
There have been OLED TVs and monitors before, this uses the same manufacturting process as those. Samsung is there for price pressure as well via QD-OLED (no, not QLED), and then you'll have all of these models competing with each other, with smaller TVs that are very competitively priced, and with miniLED monitors which have less issues with lifespan and burn-in.
I'm going to again encourage you to actually read some information that isn't off the top of a google search. Good luck!
@[Deactivated]: To be fair, your comment didn't rule out VA panels as suggestions so your saying "but VA panel" does come off as a bit dismissive. :P
Lower mid range??
High end gaming monitors is a fair description.
I pref the dell for the fact that it’s $150 cheaper and no external power brick. Everything else is nit picky coz if you were this anal on 1440p monitors you would just go for 4k
sorry but S2721DGF for ~$360?