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*Fits most 22" to 35" displays
*Supports monitor weights from 2-12 kg
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I made the mistake of getting a single dual :(. It's just so restrictive in how you can place them together without a giant gap in the middle zzzz.
same same… and its hard to explain to friends unless they come to visit us, they will be like "why?? dual is cheaper blah blah"
anyway, the best setup is actually one as main and one as support, so put one directly in middle of your eyesight, and one at side at an certain degree.
instead of 2 flats side by side
oh yeah, ive got main straight on and side angled. but it was a pain to line them up with the dual. Had to keep moving/adjusting the actual clamp position on the desk! Even then its' not QUITE exactly what I want but it's fine enough. XD
Not only positioning. But another issue is you are putting the weight of 2x monitors plus 2x arms on a single clamp. If your desk isn't solid wood this can cause the clamp to "cave in" and sink/bite into the desk causing your monitors to fall as well. It might not happen straight away, but it can happen at any moment (so while you are not sitting at the desk) and it's not worth damaging your monitors.
Many people these days don't know much about the materials of desks and it's common for many cheaper desks these days to either be hollow or particle board inside which makes them much weaker than solid wood.
IKEA is notorious for providing hollow table tops with their desks even their most expensive ones such as Idasen comes with a hollow "cardboard core" table top.
@harshbdmmaster718: yeah im lucky the wood is solid, and my dual looks strong as well but now you make me worry, as i have 32 and 23 monitors on that. will check the spec later (not NB brand)
@CyberMurning: To be honest particleboard (basically like wood powder mixed with glue which is compressed) with a laminate (thin wood top layer) is pretty strong, so should be fine with single monitor arm.
I have a laminate table top and I have a single large 32 inch monitor but I also have a Ergotron arm which has a big clamp (about 10cm x 16cm) and it is fine for years now.
A budget monitor arm with smaller clamp would probably be fine too. Or a dual monitor arm holding 2x 22 inch. But I wanted to be extra safe because my monitor is quite big.
If you putting more than that maybe 2x 24 inch I would definitely get two separate single monitor arms.
This is from the "Materials" spec for the IKEA Idasen $949 "Table top Particle- and fibreboard with honeycomb paper filling (100% recycled paper),". The honeycomb paper filling is basically just a hollow area with criss cross of cardboard. The hollow gaps are really large it's kind of like if you look at cardboard from the side, how it has that hollow pattern, but "larger" and inside the table top.
Found a picture, horrible https://www.btod.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ikea-id…
If you have a solid wood table top there should be no worry.
@harshbdmmaster718: Should have mentioned. On hollow core desk which is the worst I would avoid using all monitor arms.
@harshbdmmaster718: This concern is what has kept me from buying a monitor arm. My desk (second hand - origin unknown) is 5cm thick and I can only assume it's some kind of hollow construction as it doesn't weigh a ton. It must have some solid chipboard sections along the edges etc for the leg joints. Presumably there may also be some solid strips spaced out along the length inside?
The back edge is not accessible so I'd need to use the "grommet mounting" I guess. Maybe a stud finder device could locate them? Or would placing a book - sized chunk of plywood or a steel plate under the clamp spread the load enough to prevent the tabletop caving in?
@CyberMurning: Yep I can tell it is hollow, I am wondering how to make it work.. am going to try find an internal brace with a studfinder, hoping it's not hollow the whole width/length..
@Horacio: hmm how about get 2 pieces of solid wood not too thick not too thin as wide as possible to spread the pressure, but them at the back of the desk, and clamp the arm into it.
Presumably there may also be some solid strips spaced out along the length inside?
Possibly, but there will still be the risk of caving in IMO. The way it happens is, firstly the user will tighten the clamp too much because the desk is hollow it compresses more easily leading the user to believe it's not tight enough and when you over tighten the clamp it already starts damaging and weakening the hollow desk from the moment you put the arm on.
Yes there are steel plates such as this one https://www.amazon.com.au/VIVO-Reinforcement-Compatible-Inst…
But I have seen a number of photos where the steel plate caved in the hollow desk as well because of the amount of forward hanging weight of a dual monitor arm.
As Chimot said you can try two pieces of wood on top and bottom of the clamp, but that still does not prevent you from over tightening due to the fragile hollow desk which is more easily done than you think because when turning the clamp handle the tightening is very easily done but also very powerful so you don't realize you are over tightening.
One thing to note and I had forgetten about is on my laminate particleboard desk top, I did put a brick shaped piece of wood in the bottom side of the clamp. This must have also helped it a lot in terms of stability and preserving the desk. I forgot about it because I only did it on the bottom and that part is hidden from view.
Even on my laminate desk, the bottom side is just pure particleboard. So I used the block of wood but I was also careful not to overtighten and stop as soon as decent effort was required to turn the clamp.
In terms of grommet mounting. I imagine with a hollow desk this would make things even worse because you are going to be putting all that pressure and tightening the clamp in an area of the hollow desk away from the walls which would be some sort of structure.
Honestly I advise against it with a hollow desk. Most likely you will end up with just a bigger hole and possibly a broken monitor.
@harshbdmmaster718: Yes good point about the grommet mount hole away from the edge. I have some large pieces of scrap plywood so I will just have to make an ugly hack and have them sitting both above & below to spread the load over a very wide area. I need some sort of monitor arm to enable me to swap between seated & standing desk configurations. That's about 40cm height difference between sitting & standing.. I see the F100A has the greatest height adjustment so it will have to be that model I guess.
@harshbdmmaster718: Wow the IKEA Idasen is a pos for so much money! Would want solid timber and stainless legs for that price… Or electric lift.
@Schniz2: $949 is the price for the largest electric sit stand model by the way. But before the price jacks came a year ago it was $749 or $799.
There is a way around the hollow table top though.
Just buy the large Idasen electric frame only which uses a Linak motor system (the best). And buy a separate solid wood table top on top.
https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/idasen-underframe-sit-stand-f-t…
Still expensive though, frame only price also used to be lower. A year ago around $649 I think. Also the width of the legs is limited to a 160cm table top. If you put anything longer the legs can get in the way when you sit down.
@harshbdmmaster718: Ah, didn't realise it actually was electric. Read the bit that says "using the handle" and didn't see anything else suggesting it was powered. Just saw the smart control function in the "good to know" section… Pretty fancy.
I'm a fan of buying old solid desks off marketplace that last forever, not helpful if you want sit/stand, or portability though :P
Just saw the smart control function in the "good to know" section… Pretty fancy.
The App control is one thing that had a lot of customers confused about the Idasen and with some leaving negative reviews. So I will explain it below.
The main purpose of the app is to set the height for the "memory 1/2" functions, this is so you can set two heights and the desk will go to those automatically when triggered. The manual "control" of the desk through the App is optional.
Here is the part many people misunderstand. They think making the desk go to the preset "memory" height can only be done with the App, and that the lever on the desk can only do manual adjustment. This is not 100% correct.
Once you set the 2 memory settings in the App, you just have to double tap the lever on the desk in the direction you want and the desk will go to the preset memory height.
In other words the App is only necessary for programming the heights.
Problem with these is too low. How do you go with vertical setup? My 1st monitor is 32" and as it is, its ceiling is at 57cm and 2nd monitor is a 30".
for vertical stacking you want wall mounts, a dual arm with independent height arms, or extra tall monitor arms. Most single arms are made shorter in height and do not reach as high as a dual arm that allows for vertical stacking, so you'll be restricted to much smaller monitors
H180 can stack 2x 27" monitors, otherwise you might want to look at other options
Too low how? I got this specifically because it goes higher than anything else with a gas lift arm.
OK but how is this better than F100A?
The H100s don't require as much clearance behind them as the arm can be folded flat against the post, so they can be positioned closer against a wall or hard surface behind your desk to maximise space utilisation on your desktop.
The F100s/F80s can really only be used in a narrow range of positions for most kinds of setups and require more clearance the further back you position your monitors, though the F100s do have more vertical height adjustment than the H100s.
Ok thank you. I ordered one of these
Depends on the set up really. I have the dual arm version and works perfectly
This is the way.
where's the hoop ring?
Exactly what I thought I was looking at in the thumbnail!
Does anyone have one of these? I got a Heymix version which is supposed to handle 9kg and it's pure trash that cant handle my 24" ultrasharp.
I have 2 on my desk for 2 x 27" Dell monitors and it works very well.
I've used this for a 34" ultrawide and a 32" Dell for a couple of years now.
This is a lot better. Use mine to hold an 8kg monitor and works great.
Lol @ taking Heymix seriously
Thanks guys - sounds like it's worth a shot. Anything to not give Systema more money.
Did you adjust the tension of the arm?
The arm is fine, it’s the joint that holds it to the arm/controls monitor tilt.
I have one, best monitor arm I have ever owned. A steal at this price, and I've just ordered a second for whenever it is I upgrade to a dual setup.
I have 2 of these for my dual monitor set up. Awesome
Is there a work around for LG monitor where it says vesa compliant (but it couldnt work)
just search for vesa adapters
Anyone compared this to the H80? They look the same and the spec is so close I'm thinking they're probably the same product? 9KG vs 12KG?
No definitely not the same product. H100 is a lot heavier itself but also holds a lot more.
I have both. Wish I just got H100s for all of my monitors.
One of my monitors is 8kg and while the H80 did hold it in one fixed position it wasn't fully movable without sometimes dropping. H100 it's completely fine on.
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I also went with 2xH80
I've got the H80 which was fine for my Dell U2711. Assuming this H100 is going to be fine for a U3011? The back is slightly recessed (like the U2711), so would my assumptions be right that this should be fine also?
Will this be strong enough to hold a Dell 49inch ultra wide (11.4kg)?
I planning to use that with a 38 ultrawide
I've got a Philips 49" Ultrawide on this, works fine so long as you adjust the tensioner but it holds and ive had mine probably 8 or 9 months so far.
Thanks, I will give it a shot!
It might have more to do with the height of that monitor,
Thanks, planning on using it with the Dell ultrawide deal posted last week
What the heck, the logo looks very much like New Balance lol
you can easily remove those stickers
Anyone tried one of these with a 42” OLED?
Should be okay with weight limit but need an adapter for the VESA mount
curious about this too +1
I am using the F100A version with my C2 42" OLED.
I needed to buy this VESA adaptor off eBay that was recommended by another OzBargainer in another thread. It comes with screws and spacers that are needed for the slightly irregular rear of the C2.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/274969688729?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…
The monitor can be a little jiggly if you bump your desk, but otherwise fine. No issues after 3 months.
Cheers, thanks mate
Guys, does any one know if this will work with the xiaomi mi 34" ultrawide? I would love to purchase it. Thanks.
Using it now, no issue at all.
Go for it mate, I am using it now and it works great on my xiaomi 34"
I've got an F80 from these guys holding up a 27" monitor (portrait orientation). Works well for the price.
In comparison to the loctek arm for my 32", there's not a lot in it - mostly a bit of mounting convenience. And the loctek was 3x the price.
I'm ordering one of these H100 units for my 34" UW.
Now, to find a bargain on a bigger desk…
For people who have this model for dual setup were you able to set it up so one monitor is on-top of the other (not side by side setup)
if you have 24" monitors it seems possible (havent tried it) but for 27"s, definitely no
2 34" Xaiomi with one of the lowest setting and put 2
damn - got one of these last week…
Buy a new one and return it using the same order # as the old one?
too much effort for 5 bucks…
Sir, your OzBargain Badge please.
Not height adjustable? I have a dual gas arm which works alright. I want to add a third monitor above one of the current monitors though, so it needs to be pretty high.
Is anyone able to comment on the practical difference between the H100 and the F100? I can see how the H series has a rigid post for moving the arm up & down on and the F series is just the arm that swivels at the base, but I’m wondering if anyone has tried both and can comment on which one works better. I’m thinking the F mount may be more suited to my desk setup.
I have the F100 and it’s working very well.
Well built and easy to move around.
Yes big difference. You can't have it against a wall without the pole and have the mount is a "nice" spot. It will always be full extended to have it in the centre of you table.
Good point, thanks for sharing.
I'm tempted to change from F to H as it's hard to position my monitors against the wall as neatly as I'd like
Basically:
F80/F100 = for when you have plenty of clearance/space behind your desk.
H80/H100 = ideal for positioning up close against a wall or hard surface.
Thanks for the detailed description it's really helpful. I thought the F would be suitable but in my case it won't because the back of the desk is near a wall, so it's obvious the H would be a much better fit.
If you line up the F100, It can actually sit a little more flush than the H100 as there isn't a pole to avoid? I Had a dual monitor arm but now have 2 F100's situated so they are essentially flush with the wall.
I think that's only possible if the F100/F80 arm is fully raised vertically, so your monitor height would be quite high relative to the desk which won't suit most desks/setups I'd imagine.
@Miami Mall Alien: Definitely doesn't need to be full height, as the top arm can actually bend back down over the bottom one, lowering the overall height.
If you have a smaller monitor it might mean the arm juts out past the side of the monitor, but on a 32" monitor it doesn't.
I have set up 6 F100's in dual 32" setups and a few more in singles, almost all flush against walls and sitting as far back as possible.
@witheredcouch: Are your monitors arranged vertically or horizontally?
I'd be interested to see how that looks and how much space you have behind your arms.
From what I've seen of most F100/F80 setups, the arm has to stick out quite a bit behind the edge of the desk which to me doesn't seem like it would work in most scenarios where you've got a wall or other obstruction right behind your desk.
@Miami Mall Alien: Horizontal. You can sit it essentially flush against the wall, not jutting out past the back of the desk. This is with a 32 inch monitor.
https://i.imgur.com/mu4CD78.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Q05IMK3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XWLEvun.jpg
EDIT: Can literally even go so low it is flush with the desk whilst still jutting out no further than the back of the desk.
@witheredcouch: Damn, I should have gone for some F100s myself then.
Thanks for clarifying.
I opted for the H100s specifically because everyone kept complaining that the F series arms aren't flexible enough to be used close against a wall.
It seems like no one knows that these arms can actually be rotated to fold flat against the bottom pivot.
Though perhaps for a combined sit-stand arrangement like I've got, the H100s do give you more of a maximum height range given you can mount the arm all the way at the top of the post which gives you 36cm of vertical height range on the post plus another 25cm of vertical height adjustment on the arm as well, whereas the F100 only has 34.5cm of vertical height adjustment on the arm itself.
@Miami Mall Alien: For Sit-Stand then yeah your H100's likely do have an edge. Either are a good choice though, just figured i'd post in case people thought they couldn't be used in their situation.
Ordered one of these for my 34" Xioami display. There are a few bad reviews about tilt resistance and dodgy screws. Hopefully I get a good one. Not too much to loose at this price anyway. Thanks OP.
I just got my return label for a full refund. I appear to have gotten a dodgy tilt mechanism.. tension set to max, still droops - Acer X34 (7.3kg) .. was your word "too much to 'loose'" intentional? :D
Nope, but I'll take it :D
Mine hasn't arrived yet, hope it fairs better than yours did.
Bought 2 thanks OP
FWIW i have two of these, both with 34" monitors, both work well.
I'm using a 34" monitor on F80 mount (which I bought on Amazon for $35 some time back), so far so good.
So it sounds like people are able to use these with the dell 34" ultrawides..what about the alienware 34" and 38" ultrawides?
People asking for double stack mount. Just get an old traditional vertical mounted or wall mount setup this is vital if you hate seeing gaps as it will always move especially with standing desks. I use one of these as a side monitor to pull it out to present to people as its easy to move around.
does it work with OzB's favourite monitor?
Dell 34 Monitor S3422DWG
According to the website - BHP Photo Video, it states 7.7kg. It could be without the stand for the monitor.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1690739-REG/dell_s342…
However official website Dell didn't say for monitor only but weight shipping is 15kg.
https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-34-curved-gaming-monito…
Works great with my S3423. I think it's around 6kg without stand.
Also got one. I hope it's good as people here say
In case anyone missed this:
the size of the whole VESA Plate of this product is 118*118mm, Extra Longer Screw & Screw spacer may be needed in order to make it fit well.
Doesn't It come with screws?
Has anyone used these with an ikea paper core table? Keen to see if there were any issues with figment or the desk holding the weight. Thanks.
said many times, and i say again. anyone looking to get dual monitor setup (or triple). get 2x or 3x of these instead of 1x dual arm and thank me later.