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SHUOER S12 Planar Magnetic in-Ear Earphone 14.8mm Silver Plated Copper Cable $138.20 Shipped @ Aoshida Hifi via Amazon AU

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SHUOER S12 Planar Magnetic in-Ear Earphone 14.8mm Silver Plated Copper Cable $138.20 Shipped @ Aoshida Hifi via Amazon AUAffiliate
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Apply $45 coupon before adding to cart. Discount shows at checkout. This is the 3.5mm cable version in Nebula Grey (Dark silver).

Waiting has paid off. Lowest price it has ever been. Previous best deal was $171.75 Shipped.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/717497

Keep in mind copper oxidizes so the transparent cable may turn slightly blue after a year of use. This is completely normal with IEM's there is nothing wrong with your cable it works perfectly fine.

About this item

★ All-inclusive sound: 14.8mm custom planar magnetic driver. An extraordinary auditory feast.
★ 3.5mm single ended jack. Braided silver plated monocrystalline.
★ 0.78mm qual pin connector, refined reproduction low distortion.
★ Minimalistic industrial design: Aluminum alloy chassis. Complicated CNC process. Small package that is smooth to the touch.
★ Sound well-suited for electronics pop and other genre.
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  • MEGASERVE on 04/03/2023 - 12:50
    +1

    Waiting for a good deal on 3.4mm, 3.5mm stanks

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 12:54
      +1

      You mean 4.4mm Balanced? Just so you know you need a player/output that supports Balanced 4.4mm if you buy that version. If you wait around I am sure they will have the same sale for the 4.4mm version.

      The most common connection is 3.5mm and Shuoer says they made the design of the drivers very efficient so you should have no problems powering the S12 from a smartphone's dongles 3.5mm output.

      At least my plan is to use the S12 with normal 3.5mm outputs. I don't have any fancy amps or DAC's or anything since they cost too much so I definitely don't have any 4.4mm balanced socket to plug into.

      How long did I wait for 3.5mm version to go on sale since the last deal? Around 6 months.

      • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 15:26

        Also forgot to mention. Everything that has 4.4mm Balanced socket in my experience researching costs an arm and a leg.

    • whyisave on 04/03/2023 - 18:56

      These IEMs have the 0.78mm dual-pin connector,
      so look for the interchangeable modular multi-plug cables
      (2.5mm, 3.5mm, 4.4mm), and you'll be fine

  • xrailgun on 04/03/2023 - 12:54

    aren't PR1 Pro/Hexa better choices around this budget now?

    • jasswolf on 04/03/2023 - 15:41

      Their technical performance would be better. The KZ PR1 Pro would be similarly shouty with a notably less technical driver, while the Hexa has the best tuning and timbre, along with probably a lot of the technical performance most people would be seeking in an IEM, just not quite in the same category as the Timeless and the S12.

      This isn't worth getting if you've already got the Timeless or the Hook-X, though people who love v-shaped sound seemed to love the S12 more. S12 Pro apparently shaves a tiny bit of the treble and pinna off.

      Honestly I'd probably just go with the Hexa and wait for another shift with the driver tech, whether that be that higher tier planar driver getting cheaper and better housed, or something like a MEMS-based driver.

      • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 15:46

        Hi. Could you answer a question for me?

        Initially I thought the S12 were a more "balanced" sound. But now I am seeing comments saying they are "bass heavy" and you also say they are loved by those who like V shaped sound.

        When looking at this graph https://item-shopping.c.yimg.jp/i/n/trudge-store_20220411113…, I understood it as very close to "neutral target" (with a slight bass boost), in other words close to how the human ear would perceive a flat line neutral response.
        I understand that this neutral target often looks like this graph (but with a more straight line for bass) with that slight elevation from 1k frequency and above am I wrong about this?

        Edit: in other words compensating for this graph of human hearing perception https://williamssoundstudio.com/mixing/images/read-fletcher-…

        • jasswolf on 04/03/2023 - 18:02
          +1

          Technically neutral target varies from person to person based on earshape (HRTF), hearing ability, preferred loudness levels (which is where the Fletcher Munson curves come in), music library/use cases, the technology involved, and ability for the device to seal/couple.

          Most people are generally comfortable with a pinna-relaxed take on Harman (though Harman itself is become more relaxed as audio technology advances), with people happily rotating through flat bass, mildly boosted bass, or a sub-bass shelf depending on their use case/library. The technical strengths of a driver implementation - the speaker driver(s), the crossover, the housing, open vs closed - can see slight variations in tuning make for a better overall experience despite not being strictly neutral, i.e. it can mask flaws and tastefully enhance strengths.

          While a lot of this can be measured, not all of it can be measured accurately enough to demonstrate how different two devices with the same frequency response measurements can in fact sound.

          Using tonality as a guideline rather than an outright indication of quality, a good view on neutral IEM tuning is offered by well-regarded reviewer Crinacle, who has an enormous databse of frequency response measurements, and the Timeless, S12 and Hexa are compared there.

          You'll note some key issues for the S12 straight off the bat, in that the pinna gain around 3kHz is steep ('shouty'), there's a notable 8kHz peak (an issue with this planar driver despite all its strengths), and that the upper treble is quite extended and may be a bit much for some (others will call it airy and remark on the perceived soundstaging for them). Another key issue is that lack of a dip at 10kHz, which often causes issues for people and can reduce the perceived soundstage though this is counterbalanced by the other two treble peaks and the slight dip in the mids.

          The S12 is right on that border of shouty and peaky for most people, but as you're somewhat noting, it can depend on the volume at which you're listening. The louder you go, the more you might prefer something v-shaped, in theory, but I would never personally never suggest a regular listening level above 70 dB, as you're at a strong risk of hearing damage.

          Moving back to the S12 vs the Timeless, you can see that the pinna gain, mid dip, and particularly the upper treble are much more controlled, but this apparently may be mildly blunting some tones to be accomplished. It's a neutral and soft sound, but it's well liked and certainly is very different from what most people would think of planars remotely in this price range for IEMs and headphones (aside from maybe Dan Clark headphones, though those suffer from a lack of dynamic performance).

          The Timeless is also more well known, so you're getting access to a lot of knowledge on tip rolling to adjust or improve the sound.

          The TLDR is that the S12 is excellent value at this price, you're just probably going to find yourself tip rolling to relax things above 2kHz.

          • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 19:14

            @jasswolf: Thanks for the thorough response. I won't be able to respond to all the points you made due to my lack of experience.

            neutral target varies from person to person based on earshape

            But since these are In Ear monitors earshape won't have much effect right? Or does the inside shape of the ear canal count?

            can see slight variations in tuning make for a better overall experience despite not being strictly neutral

            Yes sorry I don't mean it needs to be perfectly neutral. But my assumption was the S12 was more "neutral" than it is V shaped. Or is this technically true, but since it's on the V shaped side of neutral it is referred to as bass heavy/V shaped because those users judging it are comparing it to actual almost dead neutral sound from their headphones collection.

            but as you're somewhat noting, it can depend on the volume at which you're listening.

            Yes I can see the different sound levels on the Fletcher Munson curve graph, but even with the bottom graph I can see the characteristic lack of human hearing volume for the 1.5k to 6k range which is consistent at all levels and is mirrored/reflected in a lot of IEM graphs. Not talking about the minor differences here, just the overall shape of the frequency response. So I just caught onto that commonality as meaning the resulting sound is "close to neutral".

            https://williamssoundstudio.com/mixing/images/read-fletcher-…

            One thing I realized now though is the rising audibility of bass as it gets lower in hz. So that tiny bump in S12's bass must have quite a strong effect.

            The TLDR is that the S12 is excellent value at this price, you're just probably going to find yourself tip rolling to relax things above 2kHz.

            Yeah to be honest I think even at this price it might be a little too good for me, as in I am not an audiophile so the improvements over a $25 set of IEM's might be lost on me. I will ever spend more than this on IEM's, just kinda bought into the hype to be honest. (I first saw the S12's here on ozbargain)

            • jasswolf on 04/03/2023 - 23:20

              @harshbdmmaster718:

              But since these are In Ear monitors earshape won't have much effect right? Or does the inside shape of the ear canal count?

              The goal of headphones and earphones compared to regular speakers is that while speakers will aim to be ruler flat, the wearable options need to simulate some type of room and head interaction that accounts for how the sound of a speaker would physically present at the position of their drivers.

              IEMs dodge some of the ear and head interactions that headphones deal with, but have to deal with others, all while lacking elements that they cannot produce compared to a speaker arrangement (eg. sub-bass rumble that originates from the room itself).

              But my assumption was the S12 was more "neutral" than it is V shaped. Or is this technically true, but since it's on the V shaped side of neutral it is referred to as bass heavy/V shaped because those users judging it are comparing it to actual almost dead neutral sound from their headphones collection.

              These are relative terms, where I would describe it as more v-shaped than every other earphone we've discussed here, bar maybe the KZ, with a pinna gain and upper treble response that most people would find difficult across a wide range of music. Harman 'neutral' itself is somewhat v-shaped, though is seemingly in the process of being corrected in terms of the mids and pinna balance relative to the rest of the frequency response. The bass warmth and sub-bass kick they love to put in is more specific to closed backs, where such bass elevation is possible with less effort on the part of the driver (and thus relateively less distortion).

              Yeah to be honest I think even at this price it might be a little too good for me, as in I am not an audiophile so the improvements over a $25 set of IEM's might be lost on me. I will ever spend more than this on IEM's, just kinda bought into the hype to be honest. (I first saw the S12's here on ozbargain)

              You will absolutely hear and appreciate the difference, it just might take you a little while to figure out why the tonal balance is problematic, and opt to tip roll, for which I suggest the brand thread on Head-Fi for info. Your OzB membership just went up a tier on the back of this bargain find, enjoy your purchase!

  • Hornpub on 04/03/2023 - 13:10

    no thing more but a hype…….

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 13:22

      Really you didn't like it? Can you share any details??

      If it's overhyped and not worth $138 I might cancel.

      • Hornpub on 04/03/2023 - 14:28
        +2

        bought mine when it just came out, it was 1 of the very few alternative to timeless.

        Now, for 100$ish, I think it is fine, as a new toy, as something "new" in this form factor (at this price with this performance).
        its just there are too many planers now all of sudden, and nothing is too unique anymore about this model. Personally, I didn't like the sound at all, it is nothing like traditional BA/DD sound.(again, could be someone's tea, but just to be warned)

        I am not gonna comment on the sound quality since there are plenty online already. But what ultimately makes me draw that conclusion was exactly how quickly the hype died out. Maybe that's just how this "hobby" works? "reviewer" hype the hell out of one product, so them and the manufacturer both win. And us left with pairs of pairs IEM stuck in our hand, that I would rather have one way nicer IEM than 10 hyped chifi sub-par IEMs.

        At the end of the day, all I am saying is, this hobby can very easily get new comer lose in the woods, either set a fix budget or know what you looking for.

        • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:39

          Thanks for your honest response.

          Maybe that's just how this "hobby" works? "reviewer" hype the hell out of one product, so them and the manufacturer both win.

          Yeah I totally agree with you, and not just this hobby but many hobbies/products. At least I am aware that "select reviewers/youtubers" are sent these products ahead of time, then they film/edit their review but are restricted by a contract "upload date" which is carefully timed so that these positive reviews appear specifically on or just before product release date.

          either set a fix budget or know what you looking for.

          Yeah my budget was $120 and this S12 dropped close enough. Didn't even consider them at $180 I thought it was too much. I am thinking the different driver type will give a perceivable improvement over my $25 KZ cheapies which are the only IEM's I have ever used.
          Don't plan to really spend anymore as I know it's a rabbit hole like with other hobbies where people buy replacements for that X% improvement which is just not worth it IMO. I strongly believe in diminishing returns.

  • Koolio379 on 04/03/2023 - 13:41

    Will this have bass?

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 13:45

      If that's your question I don't think S12 is for you. The feature of S12 planar magnetic is to hear more details. Which tells me the sound is more balanced and bass is "neutral".
      Also I am pretty sure Planar magnetic has better bass extension (goes further down in hz, but a flat frequency response), but if you want the strongest bass dynamic driver is better (less extension at the deepest end, but typically much stronger bass).

      • congo on 04/03/2023 - 13:58

        Planar should have better bass.

        • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:01
          +1

          Yes technically better. But Koolio seems to ask "if it has bass" which tells me unless it's very strong they will think it has "no bass".
          I read that a Dynamic driver typically has more kick and punch.

          • congo on 04/03/2023 - 14:20

            @harshbdmmaster718: Planar have bass, the bass is often tighter than dynamic drivers.

            • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:21

              @congo:

              Planar have bass, the bass is often tighter than dynamic.

              Yes and less distortion I believe. But bass heavy tuned dynamic will always win for "Bass heads".

              • congo on 04/03/2023 - 14:23
                +1

                @harshbdmmaster718: I am a bass head, and I prefer Planar over DD :-)
                Bass is cleaner and more accurate.

                • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:23
                  +2

                  @congo: Ok fair enough. BTW by "bass head" I mean people who prefer "Beats by DRE".

                  • congo on 04/03/2023 - 14:25

                    @harshbdmmaster718: hahah yeah school kids :-)

                    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:28

                      @congo: Not just kids lol. Grown ups lining up at Apple stores too!
                      Personally I prefer more detail and balanced sound, that's why I considered these Shuoer S12's. But I know many people who prefer typical consumer V shape sound.

                      But when someone asks a question like "will this have bass?" (of course it has bass lol) it tells me unless the bass is super boosted and strong like Beats by Dre they are not interested. They will think balanced sounds like crap.

                      Edit: Comments are saying S12's tuning means they are bass heavy among IEM's. So I was wrong about the S12's 😂.

      • Hornpub on 04/03/2023 - 14:34

        planer is always about the speed. the bass response is very quick in general. It is just "different" not better or worse tbh. We are just so used to the DD bass that we set it as a standard by default.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4qrSbdCUZM
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgXKHjwefc
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcq9Pagn4RY
        there are mods to make it even more bass heavy. And some of them even clamed that this might be the most bass heavy IEM they ever used. And I can see why from my use of the s12.

    • whyisave on 04/03/2023 - 18:59

      Also depends on your DAC.

  • jpeg-jpg on 04/03/2023 - 13:55

    How does this compare vs the 7hz timeless detail wise?

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:06

      I am researching a bit myself currently and found this comparison to 7Hz Timeless. Haven't read it but might help you https://www.audioreviews.org/letshuoer-s12-review-jk/
      TLDR: "I also prefer the LETSHUOER S12 over the Timeless for five main reasons: better fit, tighter bass, deeper stage, better resolution, and a lower price"

      • jpeg-jpg on 04/03/2023 - 14:19

        Shows up as “currently unavailable” for me. Is it out of stock? :(

  • sqheaven on 04/03/2023 - 14:08

    Is it the best budget IEMs? My Chord Mojo can finally have a use, please tell me so I pull the trigger. I hate in ear because it gives you infections..😂 Happy to try them once.

    • sqheaven on 04/03/2023 - 14:11

      Fomo, it was last pair so pulled the trigger anyway lol

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:12

      Is it the best budget IEMs?

      I thought so. At least the best I could afford. I mentioned on a previous deal that I would wait for a price drop bringing it closer to $100 from $180 Shipped in previous deals.
      But user Hornpub seems to think they are overhyped. I am waiting for a reply because I assume they purchased them from a previous deal, but it seems they have gone offline (their last comment was the comment above).

      • sqheaven on 04/03/2023 - 14:15

        I will tell you when they arrive, don't worry about pornhub probably a troll

        • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:17

          Not a very nice comment if they are saying it's bad without any reason.

          Could be they just believe so because they saw a youtube video saying so. But I like to believe there is a good reason behind their comment.
          (I still think they will respond, because they haven't commented anywhere else since)

          • sqheaven on 04/03/2023 - 14:24

            @harshbdmmaster718: All the reviews seemed to be paid ones on Amazon 😂

            • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:25

              @sqheaven: Here is one 3 star I was reading. https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R10ZH2CSTPOUIV/

              I can relate to it because I am not "audiophile" myself and have a few over ear headphones.
              So I was leaning towards believing Hornpub and giving them the chance to respond.

              • sqheaven on 04/03/2023 - 14:28

                @harshbdmmaster718: You don't have to spend 1000s to get a decent sound. At this price, I think you can't complain.

                For example, I bought a pair or Edifier speakers with planner tweeter, it is so damn detailed and sweet that I am blown away. I wanted to try it for IEMs.

                • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:31

                  @sqheaven:

                  You don't have to spend 1000s to get a decent sound.

                  Yeah and if you include Amp's/DAC's that $1000 can quickly become $3000.

                  I am just someone who has a smartphone and wants to try something in the $100 range. Not interested in any fancy equipment, but Planar definitely is appealing.

  • blighst on 04/03/2023 - 14:10
    +3

    Is this name supposed to be some parody of Shure

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:15
      +2

      Yes they submitted a few company names and Shure said "NO" to the top ones on the list lol.

      The list they provided to Shure was.
      1. Shuore
      2. Shoure
      3. Shureo
      4. Shuoer

      Lol just having a laugh but it's believable right? Anyway the actual brand name is LETSHUOER, but they are also referred to as SHUOER.
      I shortened it to SHUOER in the title, because the @ Aoshida HiFi via Amaz… would't fit.

    • Hornpub on 04/03/2023 - 14:35

      they have nothing to do with each other, and thats why they changed their name recently to letshuoer.

      • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 14:40

        and thats why they changed their name recently to letshuoer.

        Oh didn't know that. Thought it was the other way around lol (changed LETSHUOER to SHUOER because the original was too long).

  • Bunnyburger on 04/03/2023 - 14:20

    Shor baby~

  • pacificstorm on 04/03/2023 - 20:21

    @blacksmithnpc

    So you've finally got your dream IEM? Took a while huh. Anywayz, enjoy. 👍

    BTW lowest price has been $115.30 which I fortunately got.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 04/03/2023 - 20:27

      BTW lowest price has been $115.30 which I fortunately got.

      Oh damn didn't know that, or maybe you mentioned it in the comments on the previous deal and I forgot?
      In any case not on ozbargain so I guess a true in the moment deal you found! 😁

      So you've finally got your dream IEM? Took a while huh. Anywayz, enjoy. 👍

      Yeah honestly I am not sure "how much" I will actually like it though. I have a feeling it's too good for me. I often don't get deep into "hobbies" or product specific communities not only because it costs a lot of $$ but because I just never fully enjoy it as much as others seem to.
      Another example is mechanical keyboards. Jumped in, got something I wanted in my price range, lost interest in upgrading and jumped out. Never understood the "finer things".

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