Looking at buing a new laptop.
Have 3 macs but would be interested in a windows laptop if i could 'hackintosh' it.
looking at http://www.itspot.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=315007…
Any ideas, thoughts suggestions ?
Best budget Hackintosh Laptop
macfanboy on 21/07/2012 - 23:25
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so it looks like it will be a good one.
Probably just a better idea to get a apple laptop again if like how they work.
or do you just want a windows laptop to mess around with games and such.
what on earth is a 'hackintosh'? did i miss something here?
you missed out on clicking the links in the previous posts and reading.
Its trying to install OSX on a laptop that is not made by apple I believe.
Why you would want to do that is beyond me.
Doing that as a hobby sounds perfectly reasonable.
you are failling to live up to your name Macgyver.
imagine a situation where an asteroid has been captured by the TLF (Tasmanian Liberation Foundation) and has been directed to crash into the middle east (to destroy all oil production) thus forcing the world to become reliant on tasmanian oil reserves.
now, you have to hack into a retired orbiting channel 9 satelite and reconfigure it's transmission laser to bounce off the secret hidden CIA/ASIO moon base back through the hubble telescope which focuses the beam to such intensity that it will blow a chunk of asteroid and thus deflect the asteroid from its trajectory and pass harmlessly beyond earth (or hit toowoomba and cause $5billion dollars in improvements).
you only have a spatula, some twine, a jaguar installation disk in !kung and an intel p4 laptop that is missing the y + j + ctrl buttons.
(all channel 9 satelites use OSx)
I know a few people that have done it to run OSX programs such as Logic and Final Cut
If they can afford these programs why don't they just buy a Mac where they will run smoother anyway?
if they are hackintoshing - what makes you think they 'bought' those programs?
i cannot agree with the lack of morality displayed here and by the "hackintosh community"
you are taking money away from Apple… they are down to their last $100 billion
I own 4 macs.
I just want to do it as a hobbist type of thing.I've tried installing Mac OSX on a supposedly easily hackintoshable netbook and it was one of the most frustrating experiences ever. In the end I gave up and went with Ubuntu.
Whatever floats your boat though.
i have several macs - current machine g5 ppc imac. just got a dell dimension 3100 running 10.5.6.
really happy with it. except ethernet is not working
How come users are allowed to talk about carrying out and performing illegal activities on OzBargain?
Similar discussion has been deleted before.
its a grey area
if reputable publications talk about it surely a random web forum can talk about it?
i think its on whirlpool but not ocau
Violation of EULA is a civil matter.
As far as I know The validity of Apples EULA, with regard to creating a hackintosh, has never been tested in an Aust court. Until this happens it is neither legal or illegal.
Yes, an EULA is a civil matter but there can still be implications regarding illegality (note, I did not say anything about criminality). By building a hackintosh you are violating copyright law, so in that sense it is illegal and Apple can sue you for copyright violation.
Infringing on copyright is illegal in Australia. The problem is I don't know the full ins and outs of Apple's EULA; whether their copyright clause states only US copyright code, or Australian and international code as well.
Please explain exactly how building a hackintosh is violating copyright law?
It is done by purchasing a legitimate version of the operating system. The only thing that can be violated is the EULA and that hasn't been tested in the Australian courts.
It is done by purchasing a legitimate version of the operating system. The only thing that can be violated is the EULA and that hasn't been tested in the Australian courts.
I'm not talking about piracy here. Copyright can still be violated; even with no mention of an EULA.
The EULA and copyrights held by Apple are not necessarily concomitant and can be approached separately.
It comes down to Australian copyright law and code and how it is determined and how Apple define and approach copyright violations—evidently with much vigor (and not necessarily anything to do with their EULA).
I'm not an expert on the matter and I'm not about to become one now. The reality is we could spend weeks on the subject and still not have a defintive answer (knowing Apple's history of litigaton, I'm definitely not about to put up my hand up to test it now).
Food for thought—I wonder why there are no retailers in Australia selling Hackintoshes today? There were some very successful businesses in the USA a few years ago selling preconfigured Hackintoshes but they're all gone now because of litigation instigated by Apple. I suspect there is a sizeable market for preconfigureed Hackintoshes in Australia today.
It seems that the comments regarding Apple's EULA having never been tested in an Australian court of law may be redundant anyway.
From (p10) www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/15053623324f42cf…
Is material from overseas protected by copyright?
As a result of Australiaʼs obligations under a number of international treaties, almost all copyright material created overseas is also protected in Australia under the Australian Copyright Act.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psystar_Corporation
On November 13, 2009, the court granted Apple's motion for summary judgement and found Apple's copyrights were violated as well as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) when Psystar installed Apple's operating system on non-Apple computers
From (p7) www.copyright.org.au/admin/cms-acc1/_images/15053623324f42cf…
The following info is particularly relevant because it relates to technology Apple uses to protect it's copyright material and how "Hackintosher's" try and circumvent it:
Hacking, cracking, “mod chipping” and decoding
Copyright owners and broadcasters sometimes use technology to try to protect digital material
from unauthorised access or use (for example, by encrypting material or encoding broadcasts). In
some cases, copyright owners also use technology to identify and monitor digital copies of their
material (“electronic rights management information”).Under the Copyright Act, copyright owners can take action against people who circumvent
technological measures which control access to copyright material. Copyright owners can also
generally take action against people who make, sell, import or rent out devices which are used to
circumvent technological measures and against people who provide circumvention services.
Copyright owners can also take action against people who remove or alter electronic rights
management information.Anyone game to test Apple's EULA in an Australian court of law?
tonyjzx on 30/07/2012
its a grey area
if reputable publications talk about it surely a random web forum can talk about it?
i think its on whirlpool but not ocau
FWIW, there is a thread on Whirlpool where Simon Wright (owner of Whirlpool) says discussion about Hackintoshing is not allowed. A moderator also confirmed this in another thread. Both threads are now closed. It seems you can't even discuss why you can't discuss what you're not allowed to discuss. Any thread that even mentions Hackintoshing will be closed.
Apple's obviously sent him running scared at one time or the other.
If OzBargain allowed consistent discussion on Hackintoshing it would only be a matter of time before Scotty got a friendly note from Apple.
I have a Dell mini9 with bad SSD drive, I am wondering if I can make it a Hackintosh .
google is your friend
I am an Apple tech and have built several hackintoshes. I do not currently, nor have ever worked for Apple. You guys have basically exposed Apple's position on this- they will not allow someone to make money from selling hackintoshes, but they don't care about hobbyists.
IF Whirlpool had been sent a love note from Apple, he probably should have told them to F/Off and it's likely that would have been the end of it. They have a habit of threatening people even when thy don't have a legal leg to stand on- do you remember them claiming to have some sort of special ownership over the word 'Pod'? They are able to enforce that in the USA but not here, where you can't trademark existing words. But it's more likely that either a) there was no specific threat from Apple and he's just being careful or b) someone was discussing selling these as a business, or pirating the software and Apple released the hounds
I even sold a Dell Mini 9 on eBay as a Hackintosh- even when eBay were cancelling hackintosh sales. How? By selling it without the software installed, and with a legal version of the software. I included a usb stick with all of the needed tools, and (from memory) a link to the instructions in the description.
Apple doesn't care if a few people want to install Mac OX S on their PC. They just don't want it to become massive. I use real Macs now because I don't want the hassle that comes with a hack, but it has been very interesting and taught me a LOT about how the OS works. go ahead, give it a go, but PLEASE use legit software. Buy it, it doesn't cost much.
HP Probook 4330s or 4530s are generally found to be the best match. I bought one with a gen 2 i5 and installed OSX 10.8 with few problems, just needed a USB WiFi adaptor. Try the tonymacx86 forums for guides and advice.
is a netbook hackintosh an option?
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checkout www.osx86project.org/
or tonymac.com for some ideas.