Nvidia Shield TV 4K HDR Streaming Media Player
-Made with Gigabit Ethernet, dual-band AC WiFi, an integrated power supply, and a microSD card slot, all housed in a compact body.
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there a 2023 or 2024 Version coming ?
Nvidia Shield TV users will lose access to GameStream starting in 2023
https://www.xda-developers.com/nvidia-shield-tv-lose-access-…
bought mine for this and it's going now……
Probably reasonable to get a refund in Australia
If it was recent, doubt a retailer would be willing if you used it for several years
@scuderiarmani: Possibly. I'm pretty sure there's precedent in the past where a company has removed key functionality and the ACCC has not liked it, but can't think of it of the top of my head.
@snoopydoop: Probably has happened. No doubt. But you'd have to think you'd be on the lucky side of it if so.
@snoopydoop: Please let us know if it comes to mind. Issue applies to so many products nowadays and it'd be useful to wield a precedent like that.
If it helps anyone, you can replicate GameStream by using Sunshine (host) and Moonlight (client). It's an open source implementation of GameStream and its been working better than Steam Link for me.
Believe suggestions say Moonlight may stop working too.
You are correct if you only use Moonlight. That's why you need to use Sunshine on the host system to replace GameStream.
Beyond the loss of functionality, I also suspect that the Shield devices will probably be dropped by Nvidia soon as well. No updates since 2019, core functionality being lost. I think it's all going down the drain.
FWIW, the big up-sell back in the day was to have one gaming PC and then a Shield for your TV you can stream to. Obviously Nvidia have awoken to the fact that it makes more sense to sell you a GPU for your gaming PC and another GPU for your living room PC if you wanted to game there.
most people have consoles rather than gaming PC in their living room.
Nvidia just trying to get people to pay for their gaming streaming service.
Don't update or connect to the internet then
The new Apple TV 4K is worth considering too, it has processing power to spare no matter what you plan on using it for.
And is wasted on iOS Games.
The extra power of the shield comes in handy for the apps you can easily install in Android.
While I agree the ATV is really for different purposes and its games suck, it has a lot more power than a shield, and some interesting app categories.
Anyway, I came here to see what people thought of this shield as a streamer, and why it is worth the extra over a chromecast or firestick.
Doesn’t play 4K remuxes or pass through truehd
I knew it didn’t have correct pass through what’s Remuxes?
A remux is basically a lossless rip of a blu ray.
It does play 4K remuxes, even the old Apple TV 4K would though the extra processing headroom of the new 4K helps a lot as the old 4K was almost pushed to the limit by 4K remuxes. afaik Infuse will decode True HD, but it will pass it through as 5.1 or 7.1 so you're right it won't pass through True HD unfortunately. Apple TV natively supports Atmos Dolby Digital+ which I guess is what the streaming services use.
Definitely does remuxes perfectly but no TrueHD correct. Only those DD+ atmos rips from like streaming services
does it have ai upscaling?
No AI enhanced upscaling, but it's upscaling is reportedly very good. Seems it's up to individual preferences which wins out in the end.
Getting downvoted by Apple haters. As someone who has a lot of experience with all generations of shields, plus the Apple TV, the ATV is the correct option for 99% of people.
Haha and now I’m getting downvoted. Time to leave your high horse guys, the Apple TV is killer.
Why tho?
Literally every bit of Apple positivity is getting voted down in here so no point
Suggest you google
That’ll prove my point
@matt30186: Hard to cut through the murk sometimes. Just like OzB, saying “Apple good” is usually a quick way to collect downvotes.
As a huge headphone / IEM collector, I’m the first to tell people they shouldn’t sleep on the Airpod’s Pro Gen 2’s. I’m not surprised to hear the Apple TV 4K is a solid product.
Haha and now I’m getting downvoted. Time to leave your high horse guys, the Apple TV is killer.
I use Apple products, I also use non-Apple products, I sometimes recommend Apple products, sometimes recommend others. What I (and likely those who are -ve voting you) cannot stand is evangelism for a particular brand.
It's great that you think the Apple TV is a great product, go out and find a deal on the Apple TV and post it here and help spread the love. There's no use coming to a thread about a completely different product and trying to "convert" people to Apple. It's equally dumb the number of people trying to convert iPhone users to Android on iPhone deals or Android users to iPhone on Android deals.
Haha and now I’m getting downvoted. Time to leave your high horse guys, the Apple TV is killer.
The only person on a high horse is you - you are literally acting like a religious zealot. You know those people who pester me to convert to their religion, and can't ever understand why others may not wish to be a part of their clique? That's you right now. People who are on a deal for the Nvidia Shield are obviously not interested in an Apple TV, so stop being an annoying child and trying to act like you know what people want more than they themselves know.
FWIW, I think both the Apple TV and Nvidia Shield have their positives and use-cases and also their own limitations and bugs. There are plenty of reasons why one might want an Nvidia Shield / Google experience. No need to be annoying.
Did you read my posts? I have one of these. I’ve provided information as to why this is a bad product, I’ve provided reasons as to why the ATV is a better product. I even provided a reason as to why you WOULD select the shield over the ATV in the niche case that you desire high end audio support over the ATV benefits.
People should be made aware of why this is a bad product to allow them to save their money. Buy an ATV, or don’t, but whatever you do, don’t buy this trash.
Did you read my posts?
I did
People should be made aware of why this is a bad product to allow them to save their money. Buy an ATV, or don’t, but whatever you do, don’t buy this trash.
They are fundamentally different products integrated into different ecosystems and targeted at different user bases. For example, one may wish to use Cast instead of AirPlay. Others may value the upscaling capabilities of the Shield or may wish to run emulators…etc. which are not available on Apple TV.
I'm not even defending the Shield, if someone went to an Apple TV deal and evangelises about the Shield, I would find it equally annoying.
I don't think you quite grasp that people are down-voting you largely not because of "Apple hate" as you might think, but just because your comments are annoying, childish and out-dated. I remember having "Apple vs. Google" debates over 10 years ago back when this was all new, exciting and all the rage. Nobody cares anymore - both platforms have entrenched market share and are very similar in functionality. People have moved on and found what they prefer and what works for them.
Apple aren't paying you, you don't get anything from being a hack.
@p1 ama: Geez you really are not listening. I’m done with you.
To anyone else, if you buy a shield make sure you get the pro, the tube is rubbish. Even then, the pro is laggy and bug filled.
True. I've had the 2017 and both 2019 shield tv models and have sold them all and switched to Apple TV.
Now that Apple is forced to allow sideloading on their phones, it could be a chance for Apple TV as well. Might actually be worth keeping an eye on.
Would be great to be able to add game emulators to Apple TV and iPhone without a developer account.
will wait and see on this
if it can sideload kodi, then it would be very good
Have upscale feature?
Yes, of course. It's 2019 models biggest feature.
BUT remember the tube version won't upscale any content thats 60hz - needs to be say a 1080 24fps/30fps stream.
The pro version will upscale 60hz content
Thanks, I started googling and was double checking, I had one temporarily.
Would personally just recommend paying the little extra for the Pro though.
I've had the pro for a few years now and it's pretty good with the upscaling.
Only beef I have is that apps can restricted to what is available in the google store for this device, which is actually a blessing for most people.
@rustynail: It's super easy to sideload APKs by allowing unknown sources and using an app like AFTVDownloader…
Cough… SmartTubeNext…Cough
I've had the pro for a few years now and it's pretty good with the upscaling.
how does it look like in comparison to what resolution and from what original resolution?
Only beef I have is that apps can restricted to what is available in the google store for this device, which is actually a blessing for most people
what you mean by this comment?
can't you install any apps + games from google store on the shield ?
also can't you side load?
These are rubbish. I’ve got one, plus the shield pro 2017, plus the shield pro 2019, plus Apple TV
The tube (this one) is far an away the worst of the bunch. Crashes, slow, lags, buffers. It’s severely underpowered.
The Apple TV is now my goto, the shields are simply too bloated with ads and underpowered. Even the menus are laggy. The shield also does not have proper frame rate matching so if you are sensitive to that, steer clear.
Yea there are apps and work arounds to ‘maybe’ fix things but you shouldn’t need to do this.
The Apple TV handles everything you throw at it and never skips a beat.
The only caveat is if you value high end audio on your local 4K rips thru plex, the shield will be the only one to give you proper lossless atmos.
I am more than happy to cop the audio punch on the chin in order to get a seamless and fluid experience, along with judder free playback.
Edit - also, if you are in the Apple eco system, the integration of the ATV with your services, AirPods etc is great.
Why the downvotes people? I 100% agree on this having used 3 shield tv models in the last 5 years and the apple tv 4k. There were lots of stutters and app crashing playing high quality content on the shield tv even with the more expensive models.
I have it and your right. Is a bit slow, stutters and it does occasionally crash. I'm ok with it because I just use it for streaming content.
Best feature is the access to android ecosystem, for example free-add youtube…
The pro is a better deal.
How's this compare to a vodafone STB?
Daylight in performance
Straight To Bin?
(jokes!)
Has anyone experienced an issue whereby HDMI output is seemingly not working until power is removed for five minutes and reconnected? It happens to me every half a dozen times I switch it on. CEC switches the TV on but there's no image or sound. Replaced HDMI cable and ran direct to TV rather than via AV receiver but still happens.
One of my 2 Pros regularly needs to have power unplugged to wake up at all. I swapped it over once and the replacement still did it. Though I don't wait 5 minutes.
Both are connected to identical Sony TV's, both through Marantz Receivers, though a slight model difference….
Really pisses me off.
I've reset them, done all that.
HDMI cec is another thing that just picks and chooses sometimes….. Horribly buggy tech.
is the pros you got the latest model?
Yes
@scuderiarmani: can you tell me if it can play smoothly and no issues with video files (4k HEVC 10bit HDR) that are streamed from network share (SMB) via LAN/WIFI in kodi app etc ?
@pinkybrain: The only '4k' files I try from my Synology NAS are those on Yify and they play without issue. Give or take only around 6gb movie files.
I have a 4k UHD player for the quality stuff.
@scuderiarmani: Are the Yify files 10 bit HEVC HDR?
Don't think they are known for quality.
I have a 4k UHD player for the quality stuff.
As in bluray player?
@scuderiarmani: what about the Yify files, what are the specs?
H264 or Hevc?
and is it 10bit HDR etc?
@scuderiarmani: http://www.larmoire.info/jellyfish/
good website to download & test high bitrate files
my Sony A80J TV begins to lag at 200Mbit files when playing off SMB shares
i initially was going to buy a Nvidia shield to stream SMB shares as i thought my TV couldnt handle high bitrate (90+Mbits) media as movies would just randomly stutter/buffer/lag but it ended up being the shitty 100Mbit LAN controller on the TV. just bought a USB3 gigabit adaptor and all my 4K media streams perfectly now
@jonske: Thanks, I had a massive 3k or so BluRay collection and instead of ripping them all I ended up downloading 2gbish files instead, the storage coat and time I couldn't justify and I hardly watched em anyway… I since started buying my real favs on 4k instead, I've trimmed that significantly of late too. Hard to get past convenience if streaming services, even with very HQ audio gear too.
It's mind boggling why they can't just change Ethernet ports to Gigabit standard these days…. I know most will never need, but I highly doubt the cost is much different.
HDMI CEC is as good as the devices you are using it with. The shield has a pretty poor track record in this regard.
I also get inconsistencies with CGTV, LG C1 and Bose Soundbars. Have 2 of those virtually identical setups. Every so often the audio won't kick in right… Also one TV isn't showing any OSD for volume where the other is without seemingly any differences….
I'd REALLY love if TV's had inbuilt media players that were not only atleast somewhat capable but also supported for a decent time. Anything to reduce devices…. You'd think given the Shield is using upwards of 7yo hardware that shouldn't be much to ask…
Please don’t buy this. It’s a poorly cut down version of an 8 year old streaming box.
If you really want a Shield get the Pro.
Keep in mind that the Shield does not do HDR on Youtube. Something about a chip or codec or something, so if you want to enjoy those amazing HDR Youtube videos on your brand spanking new OLED, you have to use the TV app
The 8 year old chip lacks hardware decoding for the vp9p2 codec used by YouTube or Google Play Movies HDR and it does not have the performance to decode it in software.
will it Do 10Bit X264 ? the newer shield …
Should be fine
Can I game with this?
Get the pro for gaming. Forget this one exists.
Tube it's fine for streaming.
What an entertaining read. Every post by team Apple reminds me of another fan group.
"The one I got at Aldi for $48 is way better"
For streaming and media playing purpose, I would rather go to Amazon fire tv max. constantly on sale for $59 or less, newer hardware- wifi 6
+1, its basically a chromecast but much smother. Got the lite version. Only thing I miss is Google assist.
no x264 10 bit decoding tho ?
2019 version for those playing at home