Advice on CPU+MB Upgrade, Please

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  RichardL on 29/12/2022 - 12:13

  +2

  If you're updating the Motherboard/CPU, the RAM will most likely need to be upgraded. Your current RAMs are DDR3, and will need to updated to DDR4 or DDR5 (depending on the motherboard/CPU you decide).

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    corvusman on 29/12/2022 - 12:15

    Can I do this later? I mean will my old DDR3 memory work with the new MB?

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      RichardL on 29/12/2022 - 12:16

      +1

      Nope, they will have different slots/notches.

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        corvusman on 29/12/2022 - 12:18

        Thank you, updated the post.

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  mrkorrupt on 29/12/2022 - 12:45

  Regarding the Intel vs AMD,
  Mainstream platform from Intel 2007 was Core 2 Quad —-> 2017 Core i7 Quad core (10 years no improvement)
  AMD Mainstream platform from 2016 - 2023 —-> AMD FX Quad Core with two integer units per core —> AMD 16 core Ryzen

  ALSO

  Intel from 2007 needed a new motherboard every two years, where as AMD you could go from AM2 —> AM3 use same motherboard with AM3 chip, then upgrade to Ryzen on a new motherboard and platform and then upgrade to latest Ryzen with bios update

  Eg. 2007 go for cheap M61PME AMD Motherboard with X2 4400+, then upgrade to phenom II X4 955 in 2011
  then upgrade to ryzen 2017 Ryzen 1700 and B350 Motherboard then upgrade that to 5800X3D in 2022

  AMD 4 CPUS 2 Motherboards DDR2 and DDR4 (am2+ —> am4)
  vs
  Intel 4 CPUS 4 motherboards, DDR2,3 ands 4 Types (775, 1155, 1150?, then 1700 sockets)

  Also AMD Cooler is compatible since 754 socket almost 20 YEARS same CPU Cooler

  Furthermore Intel uses a lot of AMD Tech, Ideas in their CPU
  * Onboard Memory Controller
  * X86-64
  * More then 4 cores on mainstream platform
  * Overclocking of memory on lower motherboard (11th gen was not allowed)
  * Soldered IHS (they used to glue them)
  * DDR —- Intel went with RAMBUS (must populate in pairs and also very expensive) in P4 before going with DDR later

  More reasons for AMD.
  Support underdog
  Sending a message to Intel that they need to make their platform more open and increase longevity
  Supports ECC Memory on normal motherboards
  Ensuring competitive
  AM5 platform longevity vs intel platform
  Better and superior platform
  Better CPUs, less heat and lower power consumption

  So in ten years

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  avoidfullprice on 29/12/2022 - 12:58

  Another source of idea is to go through other people’s recent built including your GFX

  https://au.pcpartpicker.com/builds/#g=438

  Then use the website to look up cheapest price for the MB/CPU/RAM they used.

  You could also look up bundles sold by shops. For example

  https://computers.scorptec.com.au/search?isort=price&lbc=sco…

  A cheap combo within your budget is this $546 bundle

  https://www.scorptec.com.au/bundle/cpu/intel-socket-1700/155…

  • Intel Core i5 12400F Desktop Processor,
  • MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Motherboard,
  • Corsair Vengeance LPX Ryzen 16GB (2x8GB), PC4-25600 (3200MHz) DDR4

  Edit: replaced example as i misread your budget was under $500

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    corvusman on 29/12/2022 - 18:37

    This is awesome, thank you! Really helpful link.

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    corvusman on 30/12/2022 - 15:04

    So this is my list https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZzZtY9
    Good? Any issues?

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  dcep on 29/12/2022 - 13:54

  upgrade my gaming PC
  I believe I have an OK video card and case/PSU
  Not going to play crazy FPS games, it's Skyrim, GTAV, Fallout most of the time. Maybe Cyberpunk some time next year.
  I'd like to keep my PSU, video card & ram and just get a new motherboard, cpu & cooling stuff

  What is your true purpose of upgrading ? If it's just for fun hobby, then go for it.

  Else if you're not upgrading video card, i won't blow on new cpu/mobo/ram as it all comes to waste, you won't utilize much of the extra performance from the upgrades.

  Might as well just plonk in a used i7-7700k / 7700 vanilla to upgrade the cpu alone, but don't overpay for them though. Take your time hunting down cheap ones, should be plenty as they lost their value upon mass flooding of used business PC with 7th gen CPU gets replaced/upgraded.

  And when you're done with this old rig and got sick of your cash, then you can splash on a complete new rig. on ddr5 platform with next-gen cpu / video card + PC VR headset for that entirely new experience, if this all fits your appetite that is.

  Note that your ddr3 ram 8gb x 4 sticks still worth quite some money there, so don't throw them for cheap. It will cover ddr4 ram costs easily if you ever wished to go for the system upgrade route.

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    corvusman on 29/12/2022 - 18:40

    My old PC is on its last leg, as it seems. First hdd crashed, then it refused to start normally, then another hdd crashed, CPU fan is making bad noise, I'm basically sitting and waiting for it to die. It's more than 5 years old, so it's time, I guess.

    Note that your ddr3 ram 8gb x 4 sticks still worth quite some money there, so don't throw them for cheap.

    Thanks, will see if I can get a DDR3 MB alternatively will ebay them.

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  garetz on 29/12/2022 - 14:31

  If you are on a ddr3 computer and you want to upgrade to ddr4 or ddr5 you should update your whole computer.

  The psu is so old it could go at any minute, and when it dies you dont want it taking out the rest of your new components with it.
  Also as a psu ages its efficiency decreases, meaning the power draw of your new system will be too much for the old psu to handle, its only a matter of time till it blows.

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    corvusman on 30/12/2022 - 13:07

    Good point, thank you. Seems like I need a whole thing.