nbn Internet Connection Outlet

zhk89 on 20/12/2022 - 09:18
Last edited 21/12/2022 - 00:37 by 1 other user

Hello smart ppl!

Hope I can make sense in this question.

I got a NBN box fitted in the garage. There is a Wall socket next to it which has 5 inputs for the Internet cable. There are 4 outputs in different rooms of the house. With my understanding each one has a match to the other only then the UNI-D1 orange light blinks on NBN box. Now is it possible to put 1 input in the garage wall from the NBN box and get 2 output in the home? This is due to the issue that with 2 possible places to keep the router wherever I use it doesn't give good wifi to the other part. I am wondering if I can use direct cable from wall output at one place and then keep the router to the other part.

I have ZTE H268A Router in the Garage setup next to the NBN Box.

If above doesn't work at all then getting Wifi extender is the solution?

Here is Router https://tinyurl.com/yatd7krw

this is the NBN box and next to it the the ports https://tinyurl.com/2smrsfk3

Thanks

ZK

Internet Broadband nbn

Comments

  • boomramada on 20/12/2022 - 09:32

    First, what type of NBN connection you got.
    You still need a router, usually they comes with few additional ports plus wireless.
    It be NBN box to router then rest of the house.

    Look like whatever you describing in NBN box is for different NBN connection.

    • zhk89 on 20/12/2022 - 09:59

      So you mean give the connection to Router from the NBN box and then from Router to those output ?

    • AndyC1 on 21/12/2022 - 08:44

      From the photo's below it looks like FTTP.

  • avoidfullprice on 20/12/2022 - 09:39

    You will need to invest in a router. (NBN output cant be split using a switch)

    I’ll find some example and post it here

    • zhk89 on 20/12/2022 - 10:01

      Sorry i may have put it wrong above. I have NBN box in garage and have put my Router there only. The switches are currently not in use as they dont help in current situation. keeping router in the garage only gives best wifi outcome atm

  • apple2016 on 20/12/2022 - 09:41

    Now is it possible to put 1 input in the garage wall from the NBN box and get 2 output in the home?

    At the minimum you need a edge router. I would advise to get one with UTM as it would be ideal but not mandatory.

    This is due to the issue that with 2 possible places to keep the modem

    This can just be a wifi accesspoint. Modem is not required.

  • randomusername2017 on 20/12/2022 - 09:50

    There are 4 outputs in different rooms

    Cat5/6 wired or phone points?

    There is a Wall socket next to it

    Photo?

    Maybe you don't need WiFi..

    • zhk89 on 20/12/2022 - 10:03

      4 Ethernet cable points across home.

      same points in that switch next to NBN Box.

      sorry how do i put Pic here?

      • randomusername2017 on 20/12/2022 - 20:54

        Upload here

        Or link to one of the image hosts like imgur/tinypic etc

        • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 00:36

          thanks

          Here is Router https://tinyurl.com/yatd7krw

          this is the NBN box and next to it the the ports https://tinyurl.com/2smrsfk3

          • randomusername2017 on 21/12/2022 - 05:31
            +1

            @zhk89: Assume you have configured the wan ethernet connection on the router for your new ISP? That's the only connection linked to the uni d light.

            4 patch cables from router lan ports to wall plate will give you gigabit connection to 4 points in the house…

            Maybe look at bypassing the routers WiFi and initiating WiFi mesh from those points.

  • GordonD on 20/12/2022 - 09:57

    It is incompetetence that the people wiring houses keep making this mistake of doing it in a way that requires you to put your router - which probably also contains your wifi - somewhere out of the way like the garage where the NBN box is, meaning most of your house gets terrible wifi reception.

    Fortunately technology has moved on from the everything in one box solution - modem if required plus router plus wifi - to mesh technology. This distributes the wifi around your house so you get a good wifi signal wherever you are in it, but they all work together as if they were one wifi unit. They can connect together using wifi, but you have ethernet cabling already installed, so you should use it. This is called ethernet backhaul. Some mesh systems officially support it. Some can be set up so they do. Some don't.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/best-mesh-wi-fi-routers-ether…

    In the garage the main mesh unit would connect to the NBN box and an ethernet hub that connected to all the ethernet sockets around the house, some of which - depending on the size of your house - would have mesh satellite devices in them.

    • ESEMCE on 20/12/2022 - 12:55

      Router WAN port connected to active UNI-D port. (WiFi off if no WiFi required in shed)

      4x Router LAN ports connected to the 4 Ethernet ports in the shed.

      Wired Mesh routers in the house connected to 2 or more Ethernet ports for WiFi in the house.
      2 spare Ethernet ports for direct connection to a device (or switch and then to multiple devices).

      • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 00:24

        Sorry did not get half of it. Router in shed with 4 Router LAN ports connected to 4 ports in the shed. Got till here. Wired Mesh router? what is this? Is it wifi extender to be used in one of those 4 outlets where wifi is low? got the last part of 2 spare cables if need to use those 2 ports outlet by direct line

        • ESEMCE on 21/12/2022 - 09:46

          WiFi Extenders are generally not recommended. They're really only used for convenience, not performance or reliability.
          As you already have Ethernet into the house, better options are just as convenient to install.

          Mesh routers are "smart" WiFi access points.
          They do a better job of handing over WiFi access from one access point to another as devices move through a house.
          Otherwise devices hold on to the WiFi signal they are connected to until it drops out and then they'll look for another signal.

          I (and others) are proposing that you either
          1) disable the WiFi from your ISP supplied router, or
          2) only use the ISP router WiFi for Internet access in the shed. (shed's tend to restrict WiFi propagation either in or out)

          For inside your house, we're recommending a separate WiFi network supplied by a Mesh system like Google Nest WiFi, Amazon Eero, TP-Link Deco, Tenda Nova or many many others (you see deals here all the time).
          This will provide your home with fast, high quality WiFi no matter the room you're in.

          • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 10:13

            @ESEMCE: Sounds great. With existing owned router fine to keep in the Shed (with or without WIFI) the Mesh routers are compatible with it? I am not buying anything else than a Mesh router and some cables. Is that correct?

            • ESEMCE on 21/12/2022 - 10:17

              @zhk89: Correct.
              You'd be setting the Mesh routers to be WiFi access points only.
              The existing ZTE router would remain as the Primary Router.

              • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 10:21
                +1

                @ESEMCE: Appreciate your suggestion mate! Thanks again and I will start looking for Mesh now.

  • zhk89 on 20/12/2022 - 10:04

    I have ZTE H268A Router in the Garage setup next to the NBN Box. updated in the post too

    • SBOB on 20/12/2022 - 10:58

      If you want improved wifi get the wifi extender from exetel (assuming you're with exetel with that modem)
      It's pretty cheap and plug and play.

      • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 00:21

        i am with Tangerine but using this Modem which was from Exetel

  • OMGJL on 20/12/2022 - 10:56
    +3

    I have to say (I think) I know what you mean by guessing.

    You have had a NBN box in your garage mounted on the wall, with a actual fiber connected to it? The NBN box on the wall has 4 ethernet port?

    that 4 port is separate to each other. They are meant for you to sign up with up to 4 separate internet provider (for whatever the reason).

    There is a Wall socket next to it which has 5 inputs for the Internet cable. There are 4 outputs in different rooms of the house.

    You more than likely need to do the following setup (in order to have ehternet port in the other room to work):

    NBN box —— Router WAN port,
    Several Router Lan Port each connects to garage wall socket using separate lan cable

    the ethernet port at your room will work at this stage

    • ESEMCE on 20/12/2022 - 12:59

      This is my understanding of the situation also

    • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 00:19

      Great suggestion. Only drawback in this case is that it will give Internet to all outlets but router still remains in Garage with the NBN box to split x 4. Cable connection can be gained in all 4 places. For wifi will i need wifi extender to one of those outlets where signals are low?

      • OMGJL on 21/12/2022 - 07:46
        +1

        Approach 1:
        connect your nbn box into one of those wall socket, and connect your router in the other room. Hoping that the other room is in the center of the house somewhere to spread out a more even wifi coverage.
        Disadvantage: The rest of the room won't be able to have wired connection at all, unless you go for approach 2.

        Approach 2:
        buy a pair of routers that come with wired Mesh functionalities.

        NBN Box - Router1. Router 1 ==== All sockets on the wall.
        In another room, connect your router2, this will send out a separate WiFi signal, which have the same WiFi Name and password. Your devices at home will automatically fall back to the wifi signal whichever have better signals(Mesh).
        Disadvantage: cost.

        • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 09:14

          Approach 1 tried already. Everything is good but then WIFI doesnt reach to my Work Room.

          Approach 2: Pair of routers? So if from above suggestions if I only buy 1 Mesh Router will it not work with my Existing H268 router?

          • ESEMCE on 21/12/2022 - 09:55

            @zhk89: FYI OP just to avoid confusion, my suggestion above is the same as Approach 2.

          • randomusername2017 on 21/12/2022 - 10:00

            @zhk89: Or ditch the H268 and use a router with better WiFi. Seems a huge waste of the pre run ethernet though.

            • ESEMCE on 21/12/2022 - 10:10

              @randomusername2017: It's in a shed.
              Shed's are pseudo-Faraday Cage's.
              It's doubtful that additional power is really going to change the situation much.

              • randomusername2017 on 21/12/2022 - 10:18

                @ESEMCE: My bad ..assumed it was an attached garage with NBN junction and ethernet box.

        • zhk89 on 21/12/2022 - 10:22

          Thanks for all your suggestion. Understood the point of getting a Mesh router now.

          • OMGJL on 22/12/2022 - 10:30

            @zhk89: Mesh is a technology terms, each manufacturer implements it slightly different and usually won't work cross brand, and sometime not even when they are the same brand.

            best to get a pair of router in one box to avoid setup, or get 2 "mesh compatible" router of EXACTLY the same model.

  • AndyC1 on 20/12/2022 - 19:19

    Photo.

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