There’s also:
2 for $130 on the 2kg tubs of WPI.
2 for $100 on the dynamic whey (concentrate)
2 for $90 on the hard gainer mass
2 for $100 on the shred max pro
I’m a big fan of the chocolate casein. The taste and texture are spot on for me. The chocolate mint dynamic whey is also a nice blend.
I just read the OzBargain title guidelines but nothing jumped out. Happy to update the title but I’m not sure what’s wrong with it.
Tried INC brand before - probably the worst one I can recall. Just has this weird taste to it, the vanilla flavour specifically
I actually like the Vanilla casein over the Chocolate. Haven't tried other brands of casein tho.
Most people said to be "lactose intolerant" are not really intolerant to lactose, a simple sugar, but to casein, a complex protein. Many don't have the same reaction to A2—i.e. Jersey or Guernsey—milk, which doesn't have less lactose, but less casein. As with gluten and other lectins, it's not that some people are "intolerant" and others aren't, but that some people are more resistant than others to what amounts to a toxic defense mechanism. In either case, it's better avoided, not consumed, especially not in bulk, as it destroys intestinal mucus, producing leaky gut. Stick to whey instead, just making sure to only consume it in a narrow window in the day, straight after resistance training, as it's hyperinsulinogenic.
Are you referring to this study: https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c…
There is this comment too:
However, this does not explain the lack of a genetic damaging effect of higher dietary whey protein. A recent study showed that dietary exposure to both whey and soya proteins altered colonic global gene expression profiles, including repression of a key regulatory gene for cell cycle pro- gression in rats with azoxymethane-induced colon tumours (Xiao et al. 2005).
I’m not sure it’s as simple as “avoid it” probably everything in moderation is a better approach
The info I have is from secondary sources, possibly of that very study, but I can't remember if it was explicitly cited.
Now, that quote and the study abstract are completely nonsensical; it's as if they want to show that animal protein is bad (to rats!!), and keep lumping stuff up to get to their conclusion, while the data says otherwise (better yet, it seems the study sponsors want that conclusion, and the researchers keep trying to accommodate them, while remaining honest to the data):
Feeding higher levels of dietary animal protein (as casein or red meat) increases colonic DNA damage and thins the colonic mucus barrier in rats.
… The present study examined whether high dietary dairy (casein or whey) or plant (soya) proteins had similar adverse effects… Higher dietary casein and soya (but not whey) increased colonocyte DNA damage. DNA damage was highest with soya… Dietary protein level did not affect colonic mucus
thickness overall but the barrier was thinner in rats fed high dietary casein. … The present data confirm that higher dietary protein affected colonocyte DNA and colonic mucus thickness adversely but that proteins differ in their effects on these indices of colon health.
I'm not sure it's as simple as "everything in moderation" as one man's moderation is another man's exaggeration. I remember not long ago people thought a can of Coke a day — or even a pack of cigarettes! — was a "moderate" amount.
Might be blowing it out of proportion to reference cigarettes in this. Mucus thickness were reversed in the above cited study where the diet contained resistant starch. Casein is not recognised as a carcinogen by the WHO. There's plenty of other sources that reduce colon mucus. Whey isn't a 'perfect; alternative;
A recent study showed that dietary exposure to both whey and soya proteins altered colonic global gene expression profiles, including repression of a key regulatory gene for cell cycle progression in rats with azoxymethane-induced colon tumours (Xiao et al. 2005). Maybe, for someone considering casein (or soya for that matter) consult the literature, see a health professional and make a decision.
Is it all stores?
It is in all stores in NSW from what they told me yesterday. I got 4 tubs from north Sydney
Thanks I'll go in today then!
Just order from bulk nutrients 👍
$132 + shipping vs $100 for 4kg. Avoid bulk nutrients
Sale was not listed on the website but was advertised in store (western Syd). Not a bad price considering the 100% inflation on protein prices
Check the title rules.