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  nfr on 08/07/2012 - 19:28

  +1

  I realise the CREE LEDs have good quality and should last a long time, but the rest of globe will most likely fail well before the LED dies. 2 year warranty is simply not good enough for a $50 globe.

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  oz-dxer on 08/07/2012 - 20:06

  Hmmm only 5 times more expensive than the "same looking and specs" of ebay MR16 delivered.

  http://www.ledcentral.com.au/online-store/mr16-gu10-led-repl…

  for $5 delivered from HK, I will try the ebay one first.

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    ThePistonHead on 08/07/2012 - 20:10

    +1

    And risk burning your house down?

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      thefunkygibbon on 08/07/2012 - 21:00

      if you want to buy from ebay/online stores look to see if they are C-tick (the Australian standard) or CE mark (European standard) this should give you some piece of mind.

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        oz-dxer on 08/07/2012 - 21:52

        It may give "piece of mind" but just because the product has a c-tick doesnt mean it is safe.
        It just means that the "sample" may have beeen tested an is possibly compliant as it is up to the supplier to make sure it conforms to the standards.

        No one actually keeps check on this stuff anymore.

        I agree that it is too easy to bring suspect "unsafe" products into the country.

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        thefunkygibbon on 08/07/2012 - 22:34

        I didn't say it was safe, but it's much more likely to be safe than the ones that don't (that's why I said 'some' piece of mind).

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      oz-dxer on 08/07/2012 - 21:58

      -1

      If you look at the operating temperature of a standard 50w halogen its suprising more homes haven't burnt down.
      The run at about 250 deg C

      http://www.alianelectronics.com.au/led-lighting-benefits.htm…

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      [Deactivated] on 09/07/2012 - 09:39

      oh and how many fires have been officially resulting from dodgey LED lights installed?

      you're just scare mongering
      Or maybe just a plant from the Philips ad agency? :-)

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  ThePistonHead on 08/07/2012 - 20:21

  +2

  Is anyone else extremely reluctant to spend on LED globes? The equivalent to a 50c 60w Bayonet is $50.

  $50 for one LED globe.

  Yes I realise the product will pay for itself in a few years, but the initial outlay is huge! You're paying 100x the regular style.

  To replace a house worth of globes will cost thousands. While it is supposed to last 20+ years, how much will an LED globe cost in 20 years? $2?

  IMO not worthwhile for many until prices come down significantly.

  I still think the best bang for buck is the CFL lights, which can be had for $2-4 each.

  Happy to hear other opinions.

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    ThePistonHead on 08/07/2012 - 20:21

    +2

    Interesting source for comparison:

    http://www.designrecycleinc.com/led%20comp%20chart.html

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      oz-dxer on 08/07/2012 - 22:15

      Great link
      interestingly in doing some power measurements, the typical iron core tranformers lose about 50w as well as the 50w halogen.
      Thats approx 100w per 50w globe.
      i havent done a comparison with the newer "electronic" tranformers for power loss.

      maybe someone on here has and can comment?
      I expect they would be much less.

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    Crownanchor on 08/07/2012 - 20:29

    +3

    CFL currently gives a good bang for your buck, and lasts a long time, but the light output of a LED is much brighter at a lower wattage. The LED pricing, has not been falling in price. LED central is selling the same globes for the same price as two years ago, so its unknown when LED Lighting will fall in price,you could imagine the pricing will be lower in the future, but there will also be a greater demand for LED lighting, or efficient forms of lighting as power pricing increases. It may also be the case that due to new regulations that LED lighting is one of the most practical.

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  bargdebarg on 08/07/2012 - 20:24

  -2

  $50 a globe ?!?!? No way. I do want leds but not till they're cheaper.

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    John Dough on 08/07/2012 - 20:35

    +1

    Find one (of the same brand and quality ) cheaper and post here for us to compare to then.
    Just because you think its expensive doesn't make this a non-bargain.

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      flick33d on 09/07/2012 - 00:14

      still not a bargain TBH,
      you can find alot of local importers with the exact same product on ebay at current sale price.
      These specs are getting ancient.

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  John Dough on 08/07/2012 - 20:41

  +2

  It can be had cheaper here; http://www.ledfusion.com.au/products/10w-led-b22-globe-cree-…
  Not sure about shipping.

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    Crownanchor on 08/07/2012 - 20:52

    +2

    Thanks, LED Fusion also has a sale, and this new one looks interesting for a Japanese Globe that is even brighter than the CREE, http://www.ledfusion.com.au/collections/all-products/product…

    Postage is free for orders over $100, so this also beats LED Central, nice find.

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    jdr on 09/07/2012 - 08:04

    +1

    I'm not sure I like the word "fusion" in the name of a supplier of supposedly low power lighting devices installed in ceilings :)

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  flick33d on 08/07/2012 - 21:06

  +1

  What makes you guys so sure this is approved to Australian standards?
  The site makes no mention of C-tick,(although C-tick is self regulated).
  Consumers should really be asking these suppliers to produce a lab test certificate…
  or ask for a C-tick supplier code.

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  shaybisc on 09/07/2012 - 10:42

  How many hours would it take for a $50 15W LED to recover the price difference on a $4 25W CFL at 30c per kWh?

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  digitalaxon on 09/07/2012 - 11:33

  With a price difference of $46 dollars ($50-$4) it would according to my quick calculations take around 657 days (at running 24 hours per day) or 15768 hours of use.

  This is based on the 15 watt globe using ~ 11 cents per day in power and ~ 18 cents per day for the 25 watt globe..

  Of course my calculations could be wrong, and from my experience I've had expensive led lamps have their circuitry fail within 6 months, some cheap led lights ($3 from ebay) continue to shine after their first year of use, some CFL's that die within 5 minutes of use and CFL that last 10 years (just replaced the light in the lavatory that was dated August 2002 - IKEA branded - most reliable brand CFL's I've ever encountered - not sure if the quality control is the same on these as it used to be)..

  Just my two kilowatt cents :)

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  endotherm on 09/07/2012 - 13:06

  My calculation is at 15332 hours (638 days 20 hours), both would have cost the same amount (in power used plus purchase price), at $118.99. Assume running 24/7. That's around 1 year 9 months.

  Do CFL's reliably last that long? It might cost another $4 to replace it in that time (it is a cheapie after all), which would take it out to 16667 hours ($125 each).

  Toilet lights tend to be the most reliable in my experience. I put them in my house when they first became available (Philips, at $19 a pop!) and they are the only ones still working. Probably due to only being used for 5-10 minutes a day. However, I'm led to believe turning them on and off in a short timespan shortens their life compared to one that is left run continuously.

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    Mitch78 on 10/07/2012 - 14:31

    If you have to replace the CFL during that time for an extra $4 it would reduce the hours required to cost the same not increase it.

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      endotherm on 10/07/2012 - 15:02

      True. My revised calculation is 14000 hours at $113.00 each if 2 CFL's were required. I think I added it to the wrong item or added rather than subtracted. Silly mistake.

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        John Dough on 10/07/2012 - 16:17

        My rule of thumb having recently completed an energy audit of my home was to replace any incandescent with CFL from the cupboard, but once run out, to only use the equivalent LED replacement (without stockpiling them to ensure that I can buy LED lights at latest prices).

        I have 4 osram LED dimmable downlights in the lounge room that produce a nice amount of light and a good spread, and only use 10W instead of 50W, and also do not give off anywhere as much heat in summer.

        I figured on our usage and assuming they will last a long time(at least 3 years), they will create a saving after about 3 years of use.

        I also have a globe exactly the same as the one advertised here, can't remember where I bought it, but it was about $40 and gives a great bathroom light @ 10W compared to the old 60W globe. I imagine it will need to last for 5 years to make a saving, but for me its not just about the $, I figure it is burning less energy so it is a good thing.

        As well any savings do actually into my pocket @.31c per KWH during daylight hours due to a large solar investment, and i think we pay 0.12c Off peak per KWH, so that would also help…