Speed: 7200 RPM
CMR
$27.6 per TB.
You will get 6% off if you buy two. Then will make the price down to $469 ($26 per TB)
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Such a good price.
I find it so hard to justify putting tape on the pins to shuck it though.
Not everyone has to it seems. I shucked two of those and didnt have to tape either. Though I think its PSU related and I cant remember exactly how
Oh ok! Maybe I'll look into it. Always intimidated me.
@snoopydoop: A solution would be using a molex to sata power converter cable as these don't have the 5th wire that carries 3.3v.
@snoopydoop: When you're hooking up power to one of these drives the part that the tape impacts is whether a particular pin carrying a 3 volt enable/disable signal can recieve power. You get the same result whatever the method to prevent that 3.3v line from getting through. It's a oversight in the way revisions of the SATA power plug spec was written where the meaning of power being there changed.
The important parts are that it doesn't pass through the 3.3 volt line and that it's built well enough to not catch fire.
Anything that takes power from a 4-pin molex connector will lack 3.3v since those only have 12v, 5v, and two grounds. e.g.https://www.amazon.com.au/Haobase-Molex-4-Inch-Splitter-Adapter/dp/B07SJ5WR89/
Similarly if it's only using the traditional four red, yellow, black, black wires then it's pretty sure to not pass 3.3v pins e.g. https://www.amazon.com.au/DigitalUS-Splitter-Female-Power-Ca…
A sata power splitter cable similar to this would also work perfectly fine if you snipped the 3.3v cable (Using a multimeter to tell which is cattying what voltage): https://www.amazon.com.au/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapte…
In short, four wires means it doesn't carry 3.3v, five wires means it probably carries 3.3v.
For the not catching fire part, the anecdotes I've heard tend to suggest avoiding cables with heat-sealed housings and that cables with crimped connectors are less prone to melting and fire.
The quick visual givaway is the plastic clip-on back cover compared to the heat-sealed edges.
Example of heat-sealed style:https://www.amazon.com.au/Cable-Matters-Molex-Power-Adapter/dp/B00STNUB04/ and https://www.amazon.com.au/StarTech-com-PYO2SATA-Power-Splitt…
Example of crimped style: https://www.amazon.com.au/BLUEXIN-Compatible-Inspiron-Replac… https://www.amazon.com.au/StarTech-com-Power-Splitter-Adapte…
(Please note that these product links are purely quickly-grabbed examples of the general type of cable.)
@voltafunk: Wow, thank you so much, what an amazing resource.
I've bookmarked this comment, thanks for taking the time to write this out. You're a legend!
@voltafunk: I actually just bought those exact StarTech splitter cables on Wednesday for my home server. Should have an LSI 9207-8i arriving today and didn't have enough SATA power cables to put in my two new disks with it.
I have shucked WD 18TBs currently and have had to tape down the 3.3v pin to get them working. It's finicky and a little annoying, but once you've done it they work perfectly (until I have to unplug the power cable tonight which will almost certainly make the tape come off with it..)
I hadn't considered just cutting the 3.3v cable.. It's tempting since it sounds way simpler.. But also it's permanent damage and taping the pins isn't too much of a pain.. Either way thanks for the idea for me to consider.
@snoopydoop: I wouldn't recommend using cheap $1 ones from ebay, but yes, any old cable will do.
I've used a bunch of them over the years, not just for HDD's but for things like water pumps, fan/rgb controllers, etc.
Personally never had any catch fire or melt and a D5 pump can pull a lot more power then any HDD.
I've had a few of the cheap cables break at the connector due to cheap plastics used but that's the worst of it.
@snoopydoop: Look on your PSUs SATA cable and see how many pins they have. 4 is good, 5 is bad. My Corsair has both formats. Most PSUs are fine these days to not have to tape down anything. Think a few people had cheaper and older PSUs so had to look for a way to get by it. 90% of the time youll be fine if you have a recent PSU (within the last 5 or 6 years)
It is PSU/power related, comes down to the sata power cable, you can avoid the tape trick if your power cables are missing the 5th wire (3.3v wire).
Are shucked external HDDs actually that good/viable to be used in a NAS though?
I was under the impression that using non-NAS drives in a NAS causes them to burn out much faster.
Can't really speak to that as I personally built a second PC as a NAS. So it's technically not a NAS, just another PC that stores my media.
My friend who is a senior IT guy uses shucked HDDs and never seen him mention EOL being an issue. But then again I've never asked.
The huge drives like these, are server grade drives - no worries using them in a NAS.
That's good to know, I've only got a 4TB HDD for my vm box, would love to have heaps more for a potential Plex server.
I'll scope out a new deal and use a shucked one + Pin/tape trick (if needed)
Cheers!
I’m waiting for 8 or 12TB…
Nice - thanks for sharing here!
neology back again!
No GST?
Haha… I am always here.
The GB is for members direct purchase from a HK company. So no GST.
$498.93 is Australian Dollars or US Dollars?
Australian dollars.
Seems AU
Yea, it is Australian Dollars. It worked out about US$325, really good price that I have seen for years in Oz dollars. I had placed an order and estimate delivery date is one month.
Just received items from Amazon today. The package box is really poor and more importantly the two drives which I bought are not the same, one is seagate ironwolf nas and another is Seagate iron wolf pro. Could anyone tell me if is this right?
Any advice on if I should get these Seagates or wait for the WDs to go on sale? Currently have 8GB WD reds in my DS916+
Either would be fine IMO. Both quality brands.
Only points I would consider is to not buy bulk drives in one purchase to spread the chances of buying multiple drives in potentially a bad batch.
Also I frequently hear bad things regarding Amazon packaging. I'm not sure if this is specific to Amazon UK, US, AU etc. But im paranoid enough to steer clear and wait for Computer Alliance sales or someone else local.
I personally have 7x 8TB Seagate Ironwolf drives in my DS1821+. (currently a happy customer).
I've got 4x Amazon 8TB-14TB WD MyBook/Elements that I haven't shucked, all runnning in their enclosures 24/7, the longest one being about 3 years and the shortest being about a year. No problems yet.
But I have heard the same, and they do literally just use paper to pack in the cardboard box. But the MyBooks actual packaging is relatively good, not sure about the NAS drive's packaging.
Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated!
To mix different brands and different batches and volumes of HDD into your NAS is risky and bad idea.
There is also GB currently being organised at https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/736571
Incase anyone is interested.
what on earth does shucking/shuck mean?
You shuck a hard drive exactly like you shuck an Oyster - open the shell to use the meat inside. This is why it's called "shucking" (which the iFixit link bizarrely doesn't mention).
got it, makes sense!
Definitely hold out until Black Friday. Hopefully this beautiful deal comes back again.