In Current Climate, if You Are Getting a New Car, Which Car Will You Get?

[Deactivated] on 11/11/2022 - 16:04
Last edited 11/11/2022 - 18:35

With petrol and diesel steadily increase in price, I thought I would like to renew this poll as I plan to get a new car next year.

When this forum topic is written, fuels are averagely priced (quoted from fuelcheck nsw) as followed:

  • Premium Diesel @ 236.6/L
  • 98 @ 222.0/L
  • 94 @ 199.6/L
  • 91 @ 198.9/L

Anyway, the point is they are getting expensive and with solar panel technology getting more advanced (I've been hearing from fellow neighbors, family & friends, colleagues that their quarterly electricity bills are on credit), it's probably time to invest in plugged-in electric car and get that fuel juice charged up.

The only concern with EV/BEV, may not be able to get to those longer destinations when there is no servo with charging facility.

I look forward to understand all your perspectives on this.

Poll Options expired

  • 251
    Fuel-based (Petrol/Diesel)
  • 67
    HEV (Hybrid)
  • 19
    PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid)
  • 307
    EV/BEV (Full Electric)
Automotive Car

Comments

    • [Deactivated] on 13/11/2022 - 11:53
      +1

      i won't even bother asking what one brand you're buying

    • lovepub on 13/11/2022 - 11:57

      So I assuming you getting a Tesla you Musky fanboy?

      • Grok on 13/11/2022 - 12:30
        +2

        🎯

  • Insision on 13/11/2022 - 12:35

    Hybrid or phev..
    Electric: Battery long to charge
    No long life expensive to replace
    disposal of battery still a problem

  • xmagic on 13/11/2022 - 13:53
    +1

    I chose battery EV because I have 3-phase infrastructure in the garage at the time of build and installing a EV charger is trivial for my situation.

    My ICE car serves me well, but gas price is certainly a dealbreaker. The only reason I'm not switching to BEV is because there's really no compelling models - BYD Atto 3 is the closest but that's still a 40K investment. What I want is keep my ICE car for road trips, while buy a small, commute-oriented BEV that I can charging every night comfortably.

    Funnily enough Wuling Mini EV would be perfect for my use case - < 100km daily use, small, no bells and whistles, just drive. Even if this car sells for ~15K (It's less than $10K in China) I'm still in. But I guess it's not financially viable for dealers to push these models here in Oz.

  • milanoxpress on 13/11/2022 - 13:55
    -1

    Depends on the type of accomodation…. House with secure garage, apartment with no charging facility, live regional with lots of open road driving… etc

    hmmm some (hopeful) candidates:
    -APPLE Car (battery or Hydrogen)
    -SONY Car (battery or H)
    - DYSON Car (battery)
    - Google Car (battery or H)
    - ICE any manufacturer is welcome but I guess Apple, Sony, Google will take over by then… heard wait times are 2 years min these days…

  • skittlebrau on 13/11/2022 - 14:54
    +1

    I can only speak for my own situation, but I've got a RAV4 Hybrid on the way because it makes more sense for my family at this point with a balance of space, utility, the long trips to remote areas we'll be driving to as well as the cost.

    With that said in 10-12 years when I move on from this car, I'd be buying electric. By that point there'll be more manufacturers onboard with EVs, the infrastructure will hopefully be more comprehensive in WA and the prices will have come down due to higher competition and economies of scale.

    • [Deactivated] on 13/11/2022 - 15:11

      because it makes more sense for my family at this point with a balance of space

      i thought space wise, you'll have more leg space and more cargo space in say Model Y?

      the long trips to remote areas

      with this one, I concur.

      • skittlebrau on 14/11/2022 - 14:30

        i thought space wise, you'll have more leg space and more cargo space in say Model Y?

        Yes, but sadly way out of the budget.

    • Charity on 13/11/2022 - 19:20

      is there anything competitive in WA?

  • OhmyRyzen on 13/11/2022 - 15:16
    +4

    Cargo bike.

  • radradrobotank on 13/11/2022 - 19:07

    If the FBT exemption for EV cars passes then I will buy an EV the next day. I'd probably go for either a BYD or Tesla. The most expensive car I've bought to date is $5000 but even though an EV will be 10ish times more than that it is just too good of a deal given high petrol prices and the tax savings - no more fuel tax either :p

    • goingDHfast on 14/11/2022 - 11:50

      Won't it have a cap that rules out Tesla pricing?

      • Lachy2437 on 14/11/2022 - 12:49
        +1

        It has a cap of $85k-ish but that allows for a base Model 3 or Y

    • noz on 16/11/2022 - 08:11

      I'm thinking along exactly the same lines. How are you monitoring for when this FBT exemption become enabled - just generally through the media? It's a pity the fed. govt. are dragging their feet on it.

  • mousie on 13/11/2022 - 20:26

    Cars ultimately are a depreciating asset. There arent a population of EVs yet at year mark with multipoe owners and over 100k kms

    I'm conservative now money wise so would prefer to buy ICE next car at 4 year age mark. But highly.interested in EV for following car as development is iterative and feel that South Korea or Japanese mfgs will offer something compelling.

  • Tiredman on 13/11/2022 - 22:33

    I have solar so i got an EV.

  • bry-bry on 14/11/2022 - 01:26
    +2

    EV if you can afford it, Hybrid if not.

    Recently road tripped from Melbourne to Sydney with 2 friends and our luggage in my '10 Prius. Used less than the 45 litre tank to get there. It wavered between 4.7-4.9 l/100km on the fwy… That's not far off from a 250cc motorbike! New hybrids are even more efficient.

    I saw a response that the extra electric motor adds complexity… True, but what it adds in complexity it MORE than makes up for in longevity. Electric motors are relatively simple and don't really have much in terms of moving parts that need servicing anyway… But the thing people often don't realise is that because the electric motor is assisting the ICE motor (especially during takeoff/acceleration), the ICE motor doesn't experience as much stress and therefore lasts a LOT longer. The brakes don't require replacement as often because regen slows the car down plenty and there's also no traditional alternator or starter motor which are common points of failure/service.

    I personally hated the look of the Prius, but after talking to a BUNCH of taxi drivers in Qld (there for work) it grew on me, they all raved about them because they were able to put 500/600k KMs on them but the engine was still going strong. Mine has 170k and still purrs. Also, hybrids thrive in typical city/suburban traffic - driving through the city, the ICE barely kicks in - especially if there's traffic, it's off almost the whole time because it'll stick to hybrid until it reaches (I think) 40km/h… So the ICE is basically kicks in to add power when required but otherwise just charges the big hybrid battery - I think when I timed it once, it takes about 2 minutes to fully charge the hybrid battery when stationary.

    I'm getting another car again soon and am going hybrid because EV is a bit out of my price range for what I want, and more importantly (and annoyingly) I wouldn't have anywhere to charge it in my apartment building. Would love to get the RAV4 Hybrid but it's a LOOOONNNGG (~12months) wait for basically any new Toyota hybrid at the moment… And the 2nd hand market is definitely a seller's market for now.

    I want a new motorbike too… It'll definitely be electric 😬 - electric torque and response is awesome. Also love the relative silence! 😌

    • Hackney on 14/11/2022 - 05:39

      I have had my Honda HRV Hybrid just under 4L/100.They are better than a RAV in that area.Some have got down as low as 2.9L/100.Pretty impressive stuff.

      • bry-bry on 21/11/2022 - 23:21

        Really? That's nuts - are you doing something to decrease fuel consumption or just lots of traffic? 😅

    • Brick Tamland on 15/11/2022 - 13:12

      Which motorbike? The Harley Livewire looks to be the market leader at the moment

  • VanceSlade on 14/11/2022 - 07:19

    V8+ only.
    Probably Mercades C63S (~2018-2021)

  • Hugh G Rection on 14/11/2022 - 07:25
    +1

    if prices bother you, just take public transportation. it's a lot cheaper.
    petrol prices fluctuate, it actually went down a little for me.
    i just purchased a range rover, and it suits my needs for work, space, luxury, outdoor weekend fun, etc…
    i think you have another 13+ years until the government MIGHT make electric cars "mandatory". they are starting with Canberra to stop sales of petrol and diesel cars by 2035. they are planning this, but i don't see it happening. I think it is still to early to buy one, and buy the time they make it "mandatory," there will be a lot of great used vehicles available to you.

  • Nebargains on 14/11/2022 - 08:43

    I would prefer an EV but reality is I am not in the market for such an expensive car so it doesn't make sense and would end up getting a regular petrol car second hand.

  • figarow on 14/11/2022 - 10:11

    Used small petrol car. No contest.

    The upfront cost of EV far, far outweighs any savings over time VS used small petrol car.

    That will change as the green agender matures of course. The increase in fuel costs and bringing in of regulations.

  • Kremleen on 14/11/2022 - 11:01

    Speaking for myself, I'm getting a very budget small petrol SUV (MG ZS base model). It should last me for at least 7 years (warranty length) and hopefully, affordable EV options are cheaper by then

  • HappyPuppies on 14/11/2022 - 11:51
    -1

    A red one.

  • HerpinDerp on 14/11/2022 - 12:30
    +1

    Ditched the GR Yaris recently. Just bought a Jimny for a bit of fun. However I'd buy a Hybrid Corolla for a non 4wd. (Partners car is a Corolla Hybrid lol) 4.1L/100, decent power and easy to drive.

  • baker bob on 14/11/2022 - 14:01

    This is the first and last car I will buy in my life. Mainly because I put 5K KM's a year on it so my 2007 model car has many more years in front of it and also because of the low mileage, I'm going to go with a go get type of system after this car dies as owning a car with that mileage doesn't make sense

  • dylan345 on 14/11/2022 - 14:19

    I do 99% city and urban driving. Have solar power at home and want a ute for transport of gear for work and house improvement projects.

    Currently saving for the first good full electric ute even if it has short range. Also considering getting a electric car with a tow bar and a trailer but being a 30 year old male prefer a ute.

    Electric is better for your personal and families air health as well, at least compared to my diesel car that blows exhaust fumes into my house.

  • voiletmay on 14/11/2022 - 15:23
    +3

    We recently made this choice and ended up with full petrol.

    What happened was we went to the Toyota dealer and tried to test drive a Yaris Cross (with what we wanted bring the Corolla hybrid but they were not out yet, so this was the closest available). The battery had gone flat in the Yaris Cross, the dealer could not open the car at all (even for us just to sit in it). He had the key but even with the non-electronic key the doors would not open. He said this was the second time this had happened to this vehicle and for them to charge the battery, they had to get the mechanics to take the back seat out so they could charge the battery that was in the boot.

    So we decided not to buy a car that is not able to be opened when the battery goes flat, and that mechanical help (taking back seat out) is needed to charge the battery that goes flat.

    Plus took a test drive in a normal Corolla and it was very old fashioned (lacked tech stuff we are used to in our i30, eg. like the display of tyre pressures). The dealer said the maps system on Corolla is just terrible and not worth using at all. The speed limit is shown on dash by the car taking a photo of the traffic signs, but it didn't stay on for long. We are using to an i30 which displays the speed limit almost constantly on the map screen (which is good for just driving around, would use apple/google maps when I need directions).

    So yeah.. Corolla was just not acceptable and I really wanted to love it. We ended up a Hyundai Kona Highlander (coming in 6 months).

    Next car maybe full EV, but I need to have a car that the battery is accessilble if it goes flat. That is not negotiable. I have watched a LOT of an Australian EV youtube channel called Ludicrous Feed, and he's pretty much convinced me it's way way too much mental effort and cuts down a lot of freedom to have an EV.

    • JafferMoney on 16/11/2022 - 09:20

      'way way too much mental effort' to have an EV? LoL what are you smoking? I hope you don't have a diminshed mental capacity as that would be very unfortunate…judging by what you've written above I don't think that's the case…so I just going back to LoL…you can't be serious?

  • jaffar on 15/11/2022 - 01:30

    Just want a wagon. Nothing sporty. Something basic with a genuinely fat boot (like an old falcon/magna). Hybrid as EV scene/technology is no where close to a basic wagon.

  • bn030687 on 15/11/2022 - 06:57

    the one with highest yield investment

  • nigel deborah on 15/11/2022 - 07:01

    Wouldn't be buying any expensive petrol vehicle in a category where EVs work well. You might see resale fall of a cliff at some point if the economics swing right around to EVs. Any large vehicle intended for city driving, mid sizes SUVs for example.

  • MindGrenadius on 15/11/2022 - 07:16

    We were looking to replace both our cars but now I think I'd prefer 1 car and 1 motorbike. Most of my driving is done by myself and could be replaced with motorbike. 13l/100km down to 2.5l/100km

  • freekay on 15/11/2022 - 09:20

    "Electric car makers aren't interested in saving the world, they're just interested in saving the car market"
    I don't have the numbers, but theorise that we're just robbing Peter to pay Paul, in some respects. Would be interesting to get actual modelling around environmental impacts of EVs vs combustion engine cars—taking into account everything, including increased manufacturing cycles, wastage, emissions, etc. Of course, it would also need to be dumbed down so that a lay-person (like me) can understand it.

  • Brick Tamland on 15/11/2022 - 13:16

    My next car will be a light weight sports car with a 6 speed manual transmission. Enjoy the last of an era before EV's replace them. EV will probably be my next car or the one after that.

  • payless69 on 15/11/2022 - 14:31
    -2

    Tesla Shanghai has already thousands of Model 3's sitting around unsold. Loot at the share price and the truth comes out!

  • ValouSydney on 15/11/2022 - 15:11
    +1

    Hybrid or EV Cars are expensive - you need to buy them new most of the time unfortunately.

    I bought a SUV Tiguan for ~25k (used) where I would have needed ~50-60k for a Toyota Rav4 Hybrid (new, couldn't find used ones).
    I know I'm not comparing apple to apple but same works with a Tesla, you need to fork ~60-70k to buy one.

    I don't drive enough to justify the difference in buying cost and it would take me more than 20 years to get a financial advantage with the Rav4 consuming 3-4L/100 while the Tiguan is averaging at ~8-9L

    Otherwise full electric is probably the way to go nowadays, you can find charging station pretty much anywhere or a simple plug is enough.

  • TightAl on 15/11/2022 - 21:41
    +1

    Drove a hybrid Corolla, 1 week averaging 3.7L per 100KM, on 91.
    Brillant.

    • Hackney on 16/11/2022 - 06:08
      +1

      How does 2.9L/100 sound for a Honda HRV Hybrid?

      • TightAl on 16/11/2022 - 12:12

        All metro driving in busy hours, probably will average lower than 2.9L over a longer period.
        Also, 33K vs 47K.

        • Hackney on 17/11/2022 - 06:10

          Same for the HRV.

      • NigelPearson on 18/11/2022 - 07:42

        Good consumption.

        …but at least the Corolla looks like a normal compact car.
        If the HR-V wasn't a big ugly SUV, I might be interested.

        • Hackney on 20/11/2022 - 07:03

          As they say, ‘beauty’ is in the eye of the beholder.They are doing very well in sales(if you can get one!) around about a 10 month wait.UK Is slightly longer.Extremely popular.Anything Hybrid is popular.

  • Inhmayz on 16/11/2022 - 09:15

    Oil will be around for a lot longer then you think and the way they are pushing electric cars are shit

  • JafferMoney on 16/11/2022 - 09:18
    +2

    I've got two EV's…will never go back to ICE cars. EV's are much better in many practical ways…we'll soon become used to how good they are and it'll just be a new benchmark in the future.

    • skittlebrau on 16/11/2022 - 09:48
      +1

      Once there’s more options in the $20,000-$30,000 bracket and more infrastructure, then that’ll definitely help.

      • JafferMoney on 16/11/2022 - 10:52

        That's a very low price point, I'd say that's a long way off for now…

  • HelpMeiCantSee on 20/11/2022 - 11:46

    Sticking with my landcruiser until ev can give me >1000km charge range. In the last month I’ve had 2 urgent trips interstate requiring me to travel 1800+km in <24 hours.

    I really, really want an EV, but my use case is 1000km non stop driving is critical.

    To be fair though, few ic vehicles fit the bill for me either.

  • CatGrandma on 24/11/2022 - 14:05

    My little Grand Vitara is getting to a point where the maintenance cost doesn't justify me keeping her when I drive so little. I'm sad about it because she's my first car and I love her but it's time. The plan is to be carless for a bit and save my dollarydoos to buy something newish in a year or so. I'm currently leaning towards something like a Hybrid Yaris because it seems like it will tick my boxes for being small and cheapish to run. I'd love a plug in electric, but I just can't justify the cost. For the same money as a Yaris the best electric car I could get is like a 5 year old Nissan Leaf.

  • starlightshine on 29/11/2022 - 13:03

    The ideal time to go for an EV is if you have enough power being generated out of solar or if 80% of the grid is green energy (hydrogen power stations or solar and non-fossil based). With all that said, I just canceled a Prado that was being delivered a few weeks from now looking at the desiel prices.

    • SBOB on 01/12/2022 - 21:53

      You could have just resold the Prado and made a profit to cover future fuel prices ;)

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