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Kingston KC3000 Gen 4.0 M.2 SSD 2TB $299, 1TB $149 Delivered @ BPC Tech

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Kingston KC3000 Gen 4.0 M.2 SSD 2TB $299, 1TB $149 Delivered @ BPC Tech
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LcecilCecilia on 10/11/2022 - 15:45 bpctech.com.au (786 clicks)
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Searching on Gen4 SSDs for my ps5, found these: Kingston KC3000 series SSD at good price:

2TB $299inc delivered
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/skc3000d-2048g-kingston-k…

1TB $149inc delivered
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/skc3000s-1024g-kingston-k…

Also entry level Gen4 SSD at good price:
NV2 1TB $99inc
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/snv2s-1000g-kingston-nv2-…

NV2 2TB $199inc
https://www.bpctech.com.au/product/snv2s-2000g-snv2-2000g.ht…

Slightly better than previous amazon uk deal

Computing 1TB 2TB Computer Component Kingston M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

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  • netsurfer on 10/11/2022 - 15:54

    Phison E18 based SSDs, you generally want to aim for the 2TB ones. The main reason is the 1TB ones aren't as well optimised so they don't quite top benchmark as much as the 2TB ones.

    • Agret on 10/11/2022 - 17:30

      That's not going to matter in daily use though?

      • Jugganautx on 10/11/2022 - 17:58
        +11

        But but my user benchmark scoreeeee

      • netsurfer on 10/11/2022 - 20:49

        Yes, but then we all know PCIe gen 3 SSDs are already good enough.

        I think normally people went with E18 SSDs because they see all those benchmark figures. The 1TB version's TLC sustained write speed is < 1GBps, whereas the 2TB one is 1.6GBps. So the 1TB version write speed after SLC cache is exhausted is not that good.

  • LuslecGrace on 10/11/2022 - 15:55

    Thats a fairly good price for gen4 1tb

  • kekw on 10/11/2022 - 15:58
    +4

    h0d1. In Black Friday we believe!

  • SHPION on 10/11/2022 - 16:21

    bought it yesterday from Amazon: $308 - cashback "Up To 7%"

    • ThisIsHughJass on 10/11/2022 - 16:42

      Unfortunately it's unlikely you'll get any cashback as it looks like it is sold on Amazon under the 'Computers' product section and Shopback/CashRewards list that as a 0% cashback category

      • SHPION on 10/11/2022 - 16:53

        I'm ok with that, price is still good

        got $9.81

    • LuslecGrace on 10/11/2022 - 16:43

      it says upto but did u make sure how much? Cuz the 7% is for amazon devices, clothes and garden things. I suspect its the 3.5% for electronics, either that or 0% for personal computing.

      • SHPION on 10/11/2022 - 16:52
        +3

        idk how much cashback ill get from it, price is good anyway, cashback is just an optional cherry

        • bigmudcake on 10/11/2022 - 22:21

          I think cherries come under the gardening product section

      • SHPION on 10/11/2022 - 17:21

        got $9.81

        • LuslecGrace on 10/11/2022 - 17:22

          oh damn, nice! im assuming thats the 3.5%?

  • KaTst3R on 10/11/2022 - 16:22
    +4

    Nice for them to put PS5 compatible in the product page.

  • NotAnAudiophile on 10/11/2022 - 17:11

    Nice deal, any 4tb offers?

    • locknuts on 10/11/2022 - 17:50

      Only $899!

      • NotAnAudiophile on 10/11/2022 - 17:51

        Nah the firecuda 530 went for as cheap as 660 from Amazon some moons ago

        • locknuts on 10/11/2022 - 17:53

          I'm kidding. $899 is way too high.

  • javawoo on 10/11/2022 - 18:03
    +1

    how good is this? compared to 980 pro?

    • sonnyboy on 10/11/2022 - 18:07

      Toms Hardware rate it in their top 3. Benchmarks beat the 980 Pro:
      https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/kingston-kc3000-m2-ssd-…

      I just bought the 990 Pro as part of the Samsung Edu deal but would have opted for this deal instead if it was around. Under $300 so it's entirely claimable at tax time too.

    • Moo Deng on 10/11/2022 - 19:09

      It’s the fastest SSD until 990 Pro comes out next early year.

      Great price, bought mine for $155 for 512GB from Umart when it first came out.

      • vid_ghost on 10/11/2022 - 23:16

        990 pro is out now

  • dexrrr on 10/11/2022 - 19:57

    Just checking, does this need a heat sink added?

    • User50301 on 10/11/2022 - 21:02

      Sony recommends using a heatsink if using in a PS5.

      • crowboy3103 on 11/11/2022 - 04:48

        What heatsink would people be recommending to go with this to fit into a PS5?

        • User50301 on 11/11/2022 - 14:19

          PS5 details including heatsink dimensions and images can be found here https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps5-insta…. Many options to choose from with a range of prices as long as dimensions are met. Other options to investigate are the specially designed PS5 panel covers that cost more such as the Sabrent and Elecgear but if not wanting to go that route then the generic cheaper options will work fine.

  • xyron on 10/11/2022 - 20:06

    NV2 isn't fast enough for PS5 right?

    • User50301 on 10/11/2022 - 20:51

      Sony recommends a minimal read speed of 5,500mbs. This drive may technically work now but there are no guarantees you will not have issues in future if games are designed to meet the minimal requirements.

    • JulianCho on 10/11/2022 - 21:24

      No visible difference for current games but no guarantee for future games.
      However, you can always put the games need high speed SSD in the mighty internal storage…

  • Pelilah on 10/11/2022 - 23:14

    For a mid range itx build (5600, 6700xt) are these viable (kc3000/nv2) or are there better options?

    • netsurfer on 11/11/2022 - 09:59
      +1

      KC3000 is one of the high end PCIe gen 4 SSDs. NV2, it is a low end PCIe gen 4 SSD. The weird thing with NV2 is that Phison E21 is meant to be an improved version of E19. However, it seems Kingston didn't take advantage of it and actually used it like E19. There is limited real life test data on NV2. There is one user report indicating once the SSD is filled to 50%, its performance drops significantly (since the dynamic SLC cache is smaller) which is a concern. It's just 1 user report though.

      Depends on what you want and whether you prefer mainstream branded SSDs.

  • xdigger on 11/11/2022 - 10:04

    I bought a new Asus Flow X16 gaming laptop and am looking to get a 2TB SSD for the second SSD slot mainly for COD/Steam games, is this a good deal or should I wait till Black Friday sales? What speeds/specs should I aim for? Thanks.

    • netsurfer on 11/11/2022 - 10:17

      What exactly are you after? The best SSD you can get (money is not the primary concern) or budget / cost is a primary concern?

      • xdigger on 11/11/2022 - 10:20

        Being a avid ozbargainer I'm going after value for money since I'm not in a hurry as I currently have 1TB in the main SSD, but also wanting something that I wouldn't be frustrated with while gaming for not spending an additional $50 on, if it can last me 5 years without any issues.

        • Agret on 11/11/2022 - 14:52
          +1

          Honestly, anything TLC with DRAM will do the job.

          Even this cheaper Kingston NV2 is fine

          https://www.amazon.com.au/Kingston-2280-Internal-SNV2S-2000G…

          • netsurfer on 11/11/2022 - 18:43

            @Agret: Sorry mate, NV2 is DRAMless, and OP already listed it.

        • netsurfer on 11/11/2022 - 18:54

          It's hard to recommend for that laptop because that laptop does support a 2nd PCIe gen4 x4 SSD. Without having access to it, I don't know whether that support is via the chipset or direct to the CPU (likely to be via chipset).

          Anyway, on the one hand, high end PCIe gen 4 SSDs like KC3000 means you are using PCIe gen 4 properly. On the other hand, they are generally overkill, especially for games (at least for now). Problem is, while we are not seeing that yet in PS5, could DirectStorage make a big difference? However, even so, does getting a game loaded in 2 seconds vs 3 seconds (or 4 seconds vs 6 seconds) makes a huge difference?

          Right now, NV2 is cheapest TLC DRAMless SSD at the moment. Do bear in mind it carries 3 year warranty only. Kingston did NOT bring out the best of E21 controller. Some user reports on its slow down once the drive is filled concerns me. It is unclear whether that's because recovery of SLC has not completely or it is just how that SSD works.

          • xdigger on 15/11/2022 - 10:22

            @netsurfer: I'm a IT noob, whats the difference between support via the chipset or direct to the CPU for the Asus X16 laptop?

            Also should I get a DRAM SSD? I assume DRAM is better?

            Since BF sales are just round the corner, I'll be waiting to buy my SSD then. Any 2TB SSD brands/models you would recommend so I can keep an eye out for them? Thanks for your help :)

  • WhyMe20 on 11/11/2022 - 10:07

    Would this laptop benefit with Kingston KC3000 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD 2048G as Boot Drive ?

    • BennyHe2018 on 11/11/2022 - 10:27
      +2

      Not too much. PCI-E 3.0 should be enough for boot drive and running cooler. PCI-E 4.0 is more for video editing or other huge data transfer tasks.

      • WhyMe20 on 11/11/2022 - 10:33

        Nice .. thanks .. Knew it would be an overkill and was waiting it to go OOS .. will HODL for BF deals :-)

        • BennyHe2018 on 11/11/2022 - 10:48
          +1

          Definitely, Amazon may have some deals stacking with Aldi's 10% off Amazon gift cards.

        • netsurfer on 11/11/2022 - 19:02
          +1

          From a brief check, that laptop doesn't support PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs. You can still put them in there, except they run at PCIe gen 3 x4 speed. I am basing it on the laptop comes with a Samsung P991a SSD (and I assume if that SSD slot supports PCIe gen 4 x4, Dell would have put one in there).

          • WhyMe20 on 11/11/2022 - 21:06

            @netsurfer: Thanks for the info .. I'm little confused .. CPU-z Motherboard Bus Specs shows its PCI-Express 4.0 (16.0 GT/s) ..

            The laptop came with BC711 NVMe SK hynix 512GB 512.1 GB the boot drive / CrystalDiskInfo Transfer mode - PCIe 3.0 x4 | PCIe 3.0 x4, Standard - NVM Express 1.3

            Secondary slot has GIGABYTE GP-AG42TB 2000.3 GB used for games / CrystalDiskInfo Transfer mode - PCIe 3.0 x4 | PCIe 4.0 x4, Standard - NVM Express 1.3

            As per Dell's Storage Specs its mentioned - NOTE: The performance of the PCIe NVMe Gen4 x4 will be limited to PCIe Gen3 x4 bandwidth on the system

            was planning to upgrade the boot drive for more Storage (i.e. partitioned)

            Can you recommend any drives to get the max/best out of this laptop??

            • netsurfer on 12/11/2022 - 09:20
              +2

              @WhyMe20: It is a bit confusing. My interpretation is that while the board and the chipset is PCIe gen 4 capable, the mobile Ryzen APU isn't, at least not for the storage side. My understanding is that mobile AM4 APUs don't support PCIe gen 4. Pretty much all of us don't quite understand why AMD elect to do so, given AMD started supporting PCIe gen 4 on Ryzen 3xxx desktop CPU series. My guess is AM4 socket simply doesn't have enough pins for APU (the GPU part) to operate in PCIe gen 4 mode.

              CrystalDiskInfo shows the transfer mode in this format: <current transfer mode> | <transfer mode SSD is capable of>. For example, for my system that's capable of supporting PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs, in CrystalDiskInfo, it shows: PCIe 4.0 x4 | PCIe 4.0 x4. If you like, I can try to put my spare PCIe gen 4 SSD into a Ryzen system that's only able to support PCIe gen 3 x4 (for SSDs) to re-verify.

              Anyway, you can verify it by using CystalDiskMark and run it on your Gigabyte SSD. You won't reach 5000MB/s for sequential read.

              So, the question comes down to whether you should go PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD. Basically, it comes down to this. How do you feel about Samsung 970 Evo Plus and WD SN750? Also, will there be any "bargain" deal on those? Price wise, NV2 price is good, but we know the performance will degrade once the drive is filled above 50%. The bit I am not sure is whether it is really as bad as the user report I saw (if yes, then it becomes worse than 970 Evo Plus). Problem is, it could be the guy tested right after the drive is filled to 50% (so it could be the SSD is in SLC cache recovery process, which does impact performance until the process ends).

              I still suggest getting PCIe gen 4 SSDs because there simply aren't any bargain PCIe gen 3 SSD deals.

              • WhyMe20 on 12/11/2022 - 11:48

                @netsurfer: Really Appreciate your response .. & Thanks for the insight ..

                You are right .. read/write speeds don't reach 5000MB/s on either M.2 slots with GP-AG42TB (did some testing earlier) .. Initially my plan was to use this as boot drive and get a cheaper one for the secondary

                Gen 4 drive "deals / bargain" prices are very tempting sometimes & FOMO too…

                Just needed a reality check ..thanks once again :-)

                • netsurfer on 12/11/2022 - 19:00

                  @WhyMe20: GP-AG42TB is Phison E16 based SSD. It's good you have the 2TB one. E16 SSDs are mid tier PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs. All of them have somewhat over the top TBW. Yours is 3600TBW.

                  My suggestion is that take it as an advantage that you don't have the need to get PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs so you can really wait for a bargain.

  • georgecobii on 11/11/2022 - 10:48

    Does anyone think that this will go down in price further for Black Friday sales?

  • NotAnAudiophile on 13/11/2022 - 10:46

    How does one get the 990 pro 2tb EDU price?

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