With the RDNA 3 Announcement complete, AMD looks to be a very enticing competition for this generation of graphics cards. I am looking forward to the independent reviews that come out.
Aside from the price, they haven't gone much into detail about the performance of the cards which kinds of sucks. As with the rumours and how they presented the launch, it is very much obvious that they won't be beating NVIDIA in terms of pure performance.
Mostly this.
But I would feel confident pre-ordering this if I were in the market. All the signs are there, everything adds up, it looks to be a great value and competitive option. In fact, it was AMD who un-launched an Nvidia card, they're just that good.
AMD is on a winning path now, and Nvidia is/will be struggling to compete in performance, price, and profits. All due to moving to a Chiplet Design opposed to a Monolithic Design. Feels like a Zen3 moment. Very similar turn of events to their CPU side, history rhymes:
CPU like the FX 8370 was struggling immensely against the likes of the Core i7-6700k.
GPU like the RX 590 was struggling immensely against the likes of the GTX 1080.
CPU like the r7-1700 had mostly caught up to the likes of the Core i7-7700k.
GPU like the RX Vega-7 had mostly caught up to the likes of the GTX 1080Ti.
CPU like the r7-2700X was battling against the likes of the Core i7-8700k.
GPU like the RX 5700XT was battling against the likes of the RTX 2080Ti.
CPU like the r7-3800 was dominating against the likes of the Core i9-9900k.
GPU like the RX 6800 was dominating against the likes of the RTX 3080.
CPU like the r7-5700X was crippling immensely the likes of the Core i9-11700k.
CPU like the r9-5950X was battling against the likes of the Core i9-12900k.
…hence?
GPU like the RX-7600XT potentially to be crippling immensely the likes of the RTX 4060 ?
GPU like the RX-7900XTX potentially to be battling against the likes of the RTX 4090 ?
Waiting for a good deal on a 6900XT. $909 is a bit out of my price range.
I honestly think it wont be lower than $850 at most.
Need to wait for AUD price to decide
Although I'm a little hopeful. AMD are typically very good with the AUD prices - iirc typically just direct conversion + GST.
This is because they were doing their own distribution in Aus. (Not sure when they started this, but I know at a minimum they were doing it from 2020)
Cutting out distributors in Australia meant cutting out disti markups, which are quite significant.
It also meant they had complete control over retailers pricing (Same thing that Apple does) so retailer markup was also fixed. (Put your price over what we say? No more stock.)
It's interesting. It's great for the consumer, but not great for retailers.
However, that rings true for CPUs, but video cards go to board partners so not as tightly controlled.
Bought a used ex-miner RX 6800 XT for $500 a few weeks ago already. I'm sitting out of this gen.
Mad respect for AMD retaining their previous MSRPs though.
Paid a fortune for a 6900 xt but no regrets, I love it and will sit out this gen too :)
cant wait to see what the water blocks look like
See below:
(_% of Max Shaders, Shader Cores / MSRP Price = $ per % ~ Or Cores per $ (Chipset Name) - Name of GPU Card
100%, 4608 C / $2500 = $25.00 per % (or 1.84 C per $)(TU-102-400) - 20-Titan RTX
100%, 10752 C / $2000 = $20.00 per % (or 5.37 C per $)(GA-102-350) - RTX 3090 Ti
100%, 3840 C / $1200 = $12.00 per % (or 3.20 C $)(GP-102-450) - 10-Titan Xp
100%, 3072 C / $1000 = $10.00 per % (or 3.07 C per $)(GM-200-400) - 9-GTX Titan X
~98%, 10496 C / $1500 = $15.31 per % (or 6.99 C per $)(GA-102-300) - RTX 3090
~97%, 16384 C / $1600 = $16.49 per % (or 10.24 C per $)(AD-102-300) - RTX 4090
~95%, 10240 C / $1200 = $12.63 per % (or 8.53 C per $)(GA-102-250) - RTX 3080 Ti
~94%, 4352 C / $1000 = $10.64 per % (or 4.35 C per $)(TU-102-300) - RTX 2080 Ti
~93%, 3584 C / $700 = $7.53 per % (or 5.12 C per $)(GP-102-350) - GTX 1080Ti
~92%, 2816 C / $650 = $7.07 per % (or 4.33 C per $)(GM-200-200) - GTX980Ti
~81%, 8704 C / $700 = $8.64 per % (or 12.43 C per $)(GA-102-200) - RTX 3080
~80%, 9728 C / $1200 = $15.00 per % (or 8.10 C per $)(AD-103-300) - RTX 4080
~67%, 3072 C / $800 = $11.94 per % (or 3.84 C per $)(TU-104-450) - RTX 2080-S
~67%, 2560 C / $600 = $8.96 per % (or 4.26 C per $)(GP-104-410) - GTX 1080
~67%, 2048 C / $550 = $8.21 per % (or 3.72 C per $)(GM-204-300) - GTX980
~64%, 2944 C / $700 = $10.94 per % (or 4.20 C per $)(TU-104-410) - RTX 2080
~63%, 2432 C / $450 = $7.14 per % (or 5.40 C per $)(GP-104-300) - GTX 1070Ti
~58%, 7680 C / $900 = $15.52 per % (or 8.53 C per $)(AD-104-400) - RTX 4080-12GB
~57%, 6144 C / $600 = $10.53 per % (or 10.24 C per $)(GA-104-400) - RTX 3070 Ti
~56%, 2560 C / $600 = $10.71 per % (or 4.26 C per $)(TU-104-400) - RTX 2070-S
~55%, 5888 C / $500 = $9.09 per % (or 11.77 C per $)(GA-104-300) - RTX 3070
~54%, 1664 C / $330 = $6.11 per % (or 5.04 C per $)(GM-204-200) - GTX970
~50%, 2304 C / $500 = $10.00 per % (or 4.60 C per $)(TU-106-410) - RTX 2070
~50%, 1920 C / $380 = $7.60 per % (or 5.05 C per $)(GP-104-200) - GTX 1070
~47%, 2176 C / $400 = $8.51 per % (or 5.44 C per $)(TU-106-400) - RTX 2060-S
~45%, 4864 C / $400 = $8.89 per % (or 12.16 C per $)(GA-104-200) - RTX 3060 Ti
~42%, 1920 C / $350 = $8.33 per % (or 5.48 C per $)(TU-106-200) - RTX 2060
~33%, 3584 C / $330 = $10.00 per % (or 10.86 C per $)(GA-106-300) - RTX 3060
~33%, 1536 C / $280 = $8.48 per % (or 5.48 C per $)(TU-116-400) - GTX 1660Ti
~33%, 1280 C / $250 = $7.58 per % (or 5.12 C per $)(GP-106-410) - GTX 1060Ti*
~33%, 1024 C / $200 = $6.06 per % (or 5.12 C per $)(GM-206-400) - GTX960
~31%, 1440 C / $230 = $7.42 per % (or 6.26 C per $)(TU-116-300) - GTX 1660-S
~30%, 1408 C / $220 = $7.33 per % (or 6.40 C per $)(TU-116-200) - GTX 1660
~30%, 1152 C / $200 = $6.67 per % (or 5.76 C per $)(GP-106-300) - GTX 1060
~28%, 1280 C / $160 = $5.71 per % (or 8.00 C per $)(TU-116-300) - GTX 1650-S
~25%, 768 C / $160 = $6.40 per % (or 4.80 C per $)(GM-206-250) - GTX950
~24%, 2560 C / $250 = $10.42 per % (or 10.24 C per $)(GA-106-150) - RTX 3050
~21%, 640 C / $130 = $6.19 per % (or 4.92 C per $)(GM-206-200) - GTX750Ti
~20%, 768 C / $140 = $7.00 per % (or 5.48 C per $)(GP-107-400) - GTX 1050Ti
~17%, 512 C / $100 = $5.88 per % (or 5.12 C per $)(GM-206-100) - GTX750
~17%, 640 C / $110 = $6.47 per % (or 5.81 C per $)(GP-107-300) - GTX 1050
~11%, 896 C / $150 = $13.64 per % (or 5.97 C per $)(TU-117-300) - GTX 1650
*GTX 1060 Ti, is just a nickname for the enhanced 6GB model with 9Gbps memory, as opposed to the cut-down, slower model, with only 3GB memory.
The best fast card is the RTX 4090 at 16,384 Shaders.
The worst slow card is the GTX 750 at 512 Shaders.
(factor difference x32.00)
The best cheap card is the GTX 750 at $100.
The worst expensive card is the 20-Titan RTX at $2500.
(factor difference x25.00)
The best featured card is the RTX 3080Ti * at 95% of Max Shaders.
The worst featured card is the GTX 1650 at 11% of Max Shaders.
(factor difference x8.6364)
The best competitive card is the RTX 3080 at 12.43 C per $.
The worst competitive card is the 20-Titan RTX at 1.84 C per $.
(factor difference x6.7554)
The best value card is the GTX 1650-Super at $5.71 per % Shader Cores.
The worst value card is the RTX Titan 20 at $25.00 per % Shader Cores.
(factor difference x4.3783)
…that last metric is the most important one, imho!
*purposely excluded the Luxury Titan-esque cards, wanted to highlight the flagship models instead. Otherwise it's a four-way tie. Perhaps a slight nudge for the RTX 3090 Ti; for having a smaller gap against it's peer cards. Contrast to the 10-Titan Xp which had the widest gap between that luxury card and cards in the lower ranks which were worse in that generation in terms of division of the Shader Cores.
So how does it compare with AMD lines?
So long as AMD maintain the reasonable AUD pricing they've had in the past I'll buy either the 7900xt or 7900xtx (depending on availability and pricing of Sapphire models).
Semi jokingly said I'd buy if AMD retained the initial rx 6000 series pricing, fully expecting that they would follow the rx 6x50 refresh pricing as a best case. Figured if I was already planning for this type of pricing for the 7800xt I might as well just go for it with the 7900xtx.
A mix of 3, 4 and 5.
I am going to wait a month or 2 and buy whatever is the best bang for buck FPS/$*pi/(22/7). I have been LDOH for a year now so what's another couple of months.
After the dust has settled somewhat, it appears that the 7900XT competes with the 4080 and the 7900XTX with the 4080 Ti. Currently that means basically comparable game performance (faster raster, slower RT, more memory), for US$300 less.
Given that when the 4000 series were released, it was remarked that they were about $300 over the top, this reflects well on AMD - they are holding Jensen's feet to the fire.
And given they are underclocking the XTX by a good 20-25% on what it was designed to deliver, and they have plenty in the tank for AMD/an AIB to ramp up to challenge the 4090, albeit at a similar stoopid power draw.
And further, given the 7900XT sports 84 CUs, there is space to release a 7800 XT with, maybe, 72 CUs / 16GB and still well above the 60 CUs of the Navi 32 die. That leaves the old fake 4080 12GB with nowhere to go - and indeed the reason they haven't released such a 78xx board might have been that they were planning to, and then NVidia chickened out.
Worth waiting to see what NVidia feels forced to do to counter this - their pricing strategy trying to rid themselves of warehouses of old stock seems in tatters and the release of the 4080 16GB at $1200 on 16th Nov seems laughable. They almost have to do a launch price cut to US$999.
Gotta wait til the reviews.
Big benefit of AMD is that there is support for DP2.1 and you don't need to buy a fire extinguisher.