YouTube Music Subscribers - a PSA Regarding Streaming Music via Cellular on Apple Watch

ThithLord on 15/10/2022 - 15:11
Last edited 15/10/2022 - 15:39 by 1 other user

I've just found out the hard way that Google (very, very, very, very likely on purpose) have limited using YouTube Music on the Apple Watch to only when it's paired with your freaking iPhone. Other streaming services have no issue, ofc. Spotify is fine. Pandora, no problems. Tidal? You betcha!

I got the Apple Watch so I could stream music while exercising; I loathe to carry my phone with me, so this seemed like a no-brainer.

Well, I should have done my research, right? Well, I did some basic research - I didn't realise it would be a point of contention.

Came across this article. Excerpt from the article:

Q2: Can you use YouTube Music on Apple Watch without phone?
Yes, you can. Simply connect your Apple Watch to the internet and launch YouTube Music app on it to stream the music directly.

My fault for trusting that article!

Anyway, this post is just a PSA for anyone who is in a similar boat to me.

Loving the Ultra I've got but man, am I disappointed in Google.

I utilise YouTube premium in a grand-fathered family acc (up to 6 users, YT premium, YT music, like $13/14 or something!) so I don't want to lose that by moving to another music service.

Rant ova

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  • AustriaBargain on 15/10/2022 - 15:25

    Why not just use Apple Music and an adblocker for YouTube? If you uninstall the YouTube app and just use YouTube through a browser window then the ads are always blocked on YouTube. I use the Wipr adblocker which is one-off $3, but the free adblockers might work too.

    • ThithLord on 15/10/2022 - 15:33
      +1

      I understand what you're saying but my YT use is mainly concentrated on the content creators I am subscribed to. I subscribe to a lot of political YT channels that I wish to support. I don't want to block ad revenue for these creators. I'm sure Google gets 99% percent of the monthly subscription, but still. There's a heap of videos on YT explaining that YT premium user views are more profitable for channels than those who watch ads, let alone block the ads.

      • AustriaBargain on 15/10/2022 - 15:41
        -5

        If you're not clicking the ads then the creators get nothing anyway. They only get money if you actually click the ad. YouTube may get some money for impressions when you don't click the ad, but the creator gets absolutely nothing.

        If you shared an Apple Premiere One subscription with five other people you'd be paying $6.66 a month for Apple Music. You could then use the difference between $6.66 and what you're paying now to donate directly to the creators you think deserve it. This way the creators you think deserve it would get a lot more money than just a measly fraction of your Premium subscription.

        • ThithLord on 15/10/2022 - 15:54
          +3

          Is that how you justify to yourself blocking their ad rev? Do you donate the savings you "make"?

          Creators can be paid per 1000 views, btw. Not all ad rev is click through.

          • AustriaBargain on 15/10/2022 - 17:04
            -4

            @ThithLord: The creator does not get any revenue when people skip an ad or don't click on it. Creators only get revenue when someone clicks on that ad or doesn't press the skip ad button. If you never click on ads or if you choose to never click the skip ad button, then the creator never gets any revenue. I always click that button and I never click on ads. For someone like me the creator will prefer that I use an adblocker, because it means I can watch more of their videos before I get sick of them, which really helps out with the algorithm. Plus I can donate more money because I have more spare money, because I didn't waste it on YouTube Premium.

      • fantombloo on 15/10/2022 - 16:19
        +1

        Consider blocking YT ads but help via patreon or other direct payment once in a while for those breadtubers you want to support. I think decoupling payments from Google and advertisments is safer in the long term and is just one more little step away from the capitalist behemoths.

        • eug on 15/10/2022 - 22:46

          I think decoupling payments from Google and advertisments is safer in the long term and is just one more little step away from the capitalist behemoths.

          What pays for YouTube's infrastructure and staff costs then?

          • AustriaBargain on 16/10/2022 - 12:20

            @eug: Google's many billions of profits earned from global dominion of our personal data perhaps?

            • eug on 16/10/2022 - 14:32

              @AustriaBargain: So what you're saying is it's OK to take services without paying if the company is big enough?

              If you don't agree with a company's business practices, shouldn't you simply not use their services?

              • AustriaBargain on 16/10/2022 - 15:14

                @eug: Absolutely it's okay. 40% of YouTube viewers use adblock yet YouTube is still very profitable. Not just profitable, but exploitative with our personal data.

                • eug on 16/10/2022 - 18:00

                  @AustriaBargain:

                  Absolutely it's okay.

                  Is it OK to take a washer from Bunnings without paying for it? A washer is extremely cheap and plenty of other people steal from Bunnings, and Wesfarmers is still making billions.

  • o53djz7qTPY4der on 15/10/2022 - 16:22
    +2

    I pay for YT premium via Argentina.. it's less than $1.50pm. Absolute bargain. However, I still pay for Spotify. YTMusic sucks.

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 15/10/2022 - 17:31

    Oh no!………anyway……

  • trustnoone on 16/10/2022 - 00:15
    +1

    Pandora is back?

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