Non-Removable Lithium 10 Year Battery
RF Interconnectable with up to 40 Alarms on one Wireless Network
Can connect to Smoke Alarm Controller
Indicator Lights for Test/Hush/Silence and Fault Warnings
CSIRO ActivFire Listed
Meeting Australian Smoke Alarm Standards AS3786:2014
Regular Australia Post parcel delivery $12.86
It's a feature. You're supposed to replace even the hardwired ones every 10 years.
Mains powered unit which includes the required RF module for interconnectivity is also $49
https://homewatchsecurity.com.au/product/emerald-planet-240-…
It's a feature
This.
You'd be surprised at the number of people who keep blindly sticking new 9V batteries in their smoke detector, pressing the "test" button and thinking everything is OK. Any smoke detector >10 years old should be decommissioned and responsibly discarded.
I've not yet had a hardwired one last 10 years before it goes nutty and starts beeping in the middle of the night despite a fresh 9V battery.
Again, potentially a feature… although they usually sit unplugged and unpowered by a backup battery for at least a few days until I get around to replacing them.
Bunnings told me that the responsible way of disposing these is in the household bin. I remembered they had to be discarded in a special manner due to radioactive elements in there.
@t25: 1) Photoelectric like these and most from the past 20 years don't have anything radioactive.
2) For Ionisation alarms that do have Radioactive Elements, it used to be the case that they needed to be disposed of in a dedicated waste stream, but then they realized that the miniscule quantity of radioactive material once diluted into the general waste stream would result in a negligible increase above background radiation.
@t25: I think each council has a different take on how to manage them. My council said to include in the next e-waste collection.
decommissioned and responsibly discarded.
I just let the kids play with them and pull them apart. Little two tongued Timmy loves putting things in his mouth and thoroughly loves them.
I just let the kids play with them and pull them apart.
Nice! Sound parenting practices right there.
I mean, millions of parents in third world countries can't be wrong getting their kids to break-down e-waste, right?
@MorriJ: There's nothing like the zing from putting your tongue across the +&- of a 9 volt -better than a morning coffee and cheaper 👍
It's literally law that it can't be removable. Silly rule in my opinion, but nonetheless. Although maybe it depends on the state, no idea.
Ignorant and useless comment? No thanks.
The detector itself requires replacement after 10 years as well so the battery lasting 10 years is fine. If you have detectors older than 10 years in your house, replace them immediately.
Source: 30 years a professional fireman.
The description reads that you need to calibrate these?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175241720261?hash=item28cd3871c5…
Alarm concentration calibration:
1) Short-circuit jumper A0 for the product to be calibrated.
2) Power on the product to be calibrated. At this time, the green LED is off for a second, and on for 0.1 second, 0.5 cycles.
3) After the calibration setting panel is powered on.
4) When the smoke concentration reaches the calibration concentration, the operator will set the panel according to the calibration, and the product to be calibrated will enter the calibration.
5) Calibration data collection, 8 samplings.
6) If the 8 sampling data meets the calibration rules, save the calibration data, and the red and green LEDs will continue to flash twice at the same time (displaying yellow), indicating that the calibration is complete.
7) If the collected data does not meet the calibration conditions, it will automatically repeat steps 5-6 until the calibration is successful.
8) Cut off the power and cancel the jumper A0 short circuit.
No way whatsoever. Avoid those alarms like the absolute plague. Buying Anka are setting yourself up for failure. Every smoke alarm company advises against using them. There have been countless houses here in Queensland that I've had to redo the entire property because of these cheap shitty alarms.
Coincidentally enough, my company recommends the Emerald Planet alarms above all. This is a great price for a solid alarm. Emerald Planet are really, really good with warranty returns.
Source: I'm a smoke alarm tech
Thanks for your input. Any idea how these Emerald ones rate for false alarms? Current one has issues with going off in middle of night in kids bedroom! (It's not an old one)
They're definitely no stranger to having faults. Normally it's just the inbuilt battery that is created faulty. It's just a fact of life that some batteries aren't created equal. Funny enough though the majority of genuine faults I come across are coincidentally in a kids bedroom.
Non-genuine faults are typically messy households where pet hair, dust or just plain dirt gets into the alarms and lands on the sensor. Alarms these days are built to be more sensitive so I typically do get a lot of "faulties" at messy properties. Some alarms are beyond saving, some just need a good blow out.
If you're in the genuine faulty category, I'd call up Emerald Planet and explain the issue. Like I said above, they're very good with warranties. The previous model of this deal doesn't sync with this one. If you have the UFO styled model you will have to replace the whole property with the updated model if you want the property to be 2022 compliant. Only rentals and sales properties need to be compliant to the new laws. This will change around 2027 where every household in QLD needs to be compliant. Smoke alarm companies are going to be rolling in cash in the next few years.
@NeggerOfDeals: Appreciate the reply! All good to know, I didn't explain clearly though, my current alarm is another brand (Quell 9v) so wondering if this Emerald Planet may have less false alarms.
I sometimes wonder if it's the split system pumping in particles from outside that trigger it, (other bedrooms we don't have AC/heat running at night)
@hen dawg: I'll be super honest; Quell is a rare brand to find around the region I service. My company doesn't offer support for them which should speak volumes on how smoke alarm companies view the brand. I'm obviously bias when I say you're better off getting Emerald Planet if you really want to get 2022 compliant alarms. Especially at this price.
In regards to the aircon, it is possible but unlikely. Some alarms sit directly in front of split systems (within 10cm, no exaggeration) and don't false alarm. Legally though you need them further than 10cm away but just providing context.
Wow I totally skipped the part where it says it needs to be calibrated. Order cancelled, thanks
I bought from this guy, easy to set up fast delivery. https://www.ebay.com.au/str/wifesayscollectionstogo
Much cheaper
So no calibration required (per my comment and copy paste from another listing for these above)?
There was a setup process of linking one to another. The instructions were easy and i think they will do it for you for a fee.
I'd like more Xiaomi Honeywell Fire Smoke Detector Alarm. At least can let you know when you're away from home.
I bought a house-ful of these Emerald Planet alarms plus one of the hardwired interconnected ones on similar special price around March from these guys. Great customer service.
I believe this is the brand that a lot of the smoke alarm installers use for their lower end packages.
I also bought the smoke alarm controller (also on special), which is great for testing/hushing all the alarms from one spot without climbing up ladders or whatever.
And from elsewhere I bought some magnetic mounting plates (they attach with 3M tape) designed for asbestos ceilings you wouldn't want to drill into, and these are magic, you just need to reach high enough to grab the alarm and pull off, then you can clean them regularly, or to grab the master alarm down to interconnect with a new alarm, then pop them back on.
Does the 10 years count from manufacturer or install date? If so are these 2022, or cheap as they've been sitting on the shelf for a while?
Dont know about these, but others like the Nest Protect have the date stamped on it so it's from time of manufacture. Some people have bought them with only 7 years left.
Service life: 10 years from date of manufacturing.
Warranty: The distributor, Emerald Alarms Pty Ltd, gives a (plain English and pretty reasonable) 7 year warranty from date of purchase.
So, worst case scenario is that you only get 7 years out of one before you reach for your wallet again. That's less than $0.02 per day over 2,555 days.
okay but I could save $0.005 per day for 2555 days by buying cheaper fire alarms, what could go wrong?
Good point. Prices on most things will only continue to increase, including funerals. The faster you die the more you save! Just install a few old detectors from council kerbside cleanup day and you're on your way.
Would the RF signal be encoded or we should be able to read it from a RF module? As in to integrate with an home automation solution
How does the battery charge itself to last 10 years? Does it need to be hard wired?
It doesn't charge itself - it's just a long-life Lithium battery. It will go flat eventually, sometime after 10 years…
Thanks. 10 years on a single charge, that's amazing.
Ordered one as ours is just on the cusp of needing replacement. Does anyone have a recommendation for an equivalent good carbon monoxide detector?
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