Lowest price ever according to the camels. Well reviewed little purifier.
Philips Air Purifier Series 800i - $168 Delivered @ Amazon AU
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it's over, you had to have made a purchase by 4/09/22
Considering the simple one-layer filter and the lacklustre CADR, would this unit actually work? Or would it just give peace of mind?
Well now you've ruined even the peace of mind aspect, thanks a lot!
When the pharmacist offers me a generic brand, I tell them the brand names work better on me thanks to the placebo effect ;)
how often do you need to change a filter to a new one?
I have it on 24 hours and have to replace the filter every 6-8 months. The recommended filter replacement time is 12 months.
Does anyone own an air filter? I don't have hay fever issues, but wouldn't mind seeing less duss floating around/room smell fresher.
Yes, I own this one. Will it remove the dust around the room? Not so much, but it does and will capture some particles.
I have one of the xiaomi bigger ones and it helps remove smoke smell from house during prescribed burns. Also when changing filter you can see all the dust and crap on filter so defo picks up airborne particles. Its reasonable quiet.
Whilst having a small one seems good might be better getting a bigger one for more throughput and filtration (room air changes)
It does very little for hay fever and almost nothing for smells, even with the much more expensive options.
I use it mostly to minimise (not remove) PM2.5's from wood fire during winter which it does. PM10's as I understand it are mostly responsible for hay fever and for my family the filter (a Dyson TP9 as well as a few other similarly speeced) does absolutely nothing. It reduces PM10's but doesn't even improve allergies. So we use antihistamine.
I'd suggest your units may either be inadequate or faulty. Good carbon filters most definitely remove smells. And hepa13 captures pm2.5, pm10, even down to pm0.3 particulates. Not so sure about the dysons as they're not the most efficient or effective air purifiers.
But the key is they need to capture things like pollen in your house before you breathe it in, so placement and window openings are important. No point in running the purifier inside for hayfever when you're spending most of the time outside in your garden or sleep next to an open window with the purifier on the other side of your bed.
This winter we've run a Dyson TP9 ($1300) 24/7 with all doors and windows closed 24/7.
PM10's measured by the Dyson and a calibrated device a friend brought over twice are constantly ~10um/m3.
We move the unit around, I check the app and attempt to optimise twice/thrice daily and cannot achieve PM10 (arguably the easiest particulates to filter) down to the levels of a clean air area (~2um/m3).
This Dyson TP9 isn't the best, but it's also no worse than other ~$1000 options because I've tried several.
The only unit ice used that works was an industrial unit used to 'clean' water damaged homes that is energy hungry, very noisy, bulky ans extremely ugly.
@[Deactivated]: Wow constant 10um/m3 is very high imo. We have sub 4 - mostly between 0 and 2 inside. Are you close to main roads with diesel trucks or factories? I run winix air purifiers - old models but the hepa h13 filters are the key and we can drop down from sudden 20ug spikes to around 2ug pm2.5 within minutes (depending on area etc)…
Edit: do you have a well sealed house/apartment?
@bargainshooter: We live in a VERY clean air area, but we run wood fire 24/7 in winter (only heating source) which could be contributing to the particulate count although generally wood smoke is finer at around 2um.
The family are all allergy sufferers, very sensitive to PM10's and I filter for PM2's because they're dangerous.
So I've been purchasing and testing various units and so far anything that is sub $1K and made for domestic use I've found to do very little and possibly not worth the power cost.
I'll keep trying devices, positioning and other variables to eliminate as many particulates as I can though as I'm keen to see what works.
I just don't want people to think a $200 device will make their air significantly or even noticeably cleaner. I've no vested interest in telling anyone to purchase anything and I hope my advice and my experience helps those to save money and patience 🙏
@[Deactivated]: Yeah any conbustion heating source would contribute to both 2.5 and pm10 particulates. Particulates escape both from inadequate extraction and during the lighting and cleaning processes and then when they go out your chimney there's added risk of being drawn back inside. Also pm2.5 generally doesn't exist without pm10 (which defines anything smaller than 10microns). You most likely won't remove enough until you remove that wood heater - you're just generating too much for any filter to have enough of an effect, which may be different for other households that just need to filter external air. We have neighbours with wood heaters and have to close windows and doors whenever they light them because once the particulates get in they stay in without a filter.
@bargainshooter: Unfortunately we have no chance of installing electric or gas heating since it'll destroy an historic home, the wood heater is an efficient type and it's maintained very well and operated clean, the right temps, properly seasoned fuel that's dried by the fire just prior to topping up and it's sealed (Coonara type).
It's also significantly cheaper than electricity and especially gas heating and has a type of heat and character we'd hate not to have :)
But yes, it would be contributing to the particulates and possibly VOC's.
Personally, I'd suggest the family one from Kmart: https://www.kmart.com.au/product/large-family-air-purifier-4…
Kmart's Family Air Purifier has 3 filters (Pre-filter, Charcoal, HEPA) instead of 1 (HEPA) like this model. I've also had no issue with getting replacement filters from Kmart.
Can you turn the ionizer off?
Yes there's a button to toggle the ioniser on/off. By default, it is switched off.
Amazon Review
Style Name: Series 800Verified Purchase
This purifier looks good, and is silent while on sleep mode. It doesn't seem to do much though, and allergy sufferers in my house haven't mentioned feeling any better with this purifier. I purchased 3 units to go in bedrooms, and have them running continuously. They will detect if dust or outside air quality is poor and kick up a notch (while on auto setting). It's impossible to tell what setting is on (apart from high setting), there's no indicator to let you know what setting is on.
If I had the choice of returning these purifiers I would.silent/sleep mode on any air purifier is IMO useless.
In order to clean the air on any reasonably sized room, you want a larger volume of air being forced through the filters….which means higher fan speeds and therefore more noise.
it's simple logic right? Low speed fans, low performance
Planes don't fly in the sky on whisper quiet jet engines, just like a faster blowing fan makes for better cooling in a computer (with proper aerodynamics and design of course)
Looks like this price is basically discounted on most providers. Is this a good product for someone with allergies in spring? bang for buck?
I would personally buy the Philips 2000i series, I missed out on the awesome bargains in August with the bonus cashback
General consensus i've been reading here is the small ones don't do enough to make a difference, 2000i runs rings around this one apparently
I would spend the extra money to get the 2000i, I'll have to wait until boxing day sales
Just check thoroughly when you receive yours make sure it’s not a returned item from the previous owner.
A new one will have the filter still in a plastic bag, if that helps.
I just happened to order this exact one from Amazon two days ago and received it today - definitely brand new, wrapped in plastic and same with filter inside the unit, with tags attached.
Philips 1000 series is far better and it will cost around ~$180
Amazon - Price match with JB @ $206.85
Buy JB GC's from Coles or coming week in Woolis catalogue
net ~$180ishI bought one in WA and no issue price matching with JB booragoon
I own this, bought it @ $189 during Prime Day. Overall, I recommend it for this price. Here are some things to consider:
- Its size is compact and its design is quite sleek. Perfect and perhaps only for small rooms.
- It is simple to use which can be a plus or minus depending on the user. Alternates between max/sleep/and auto mode.
- Does not connect to a phone, not that it needs to.
- Filters are relatively easy to buy on Amazon, reasonable price.
- If you put it too close to your bed, you will hear a low humming noise even in sleep mode. This may bug some but not others.
Overall, it is missing some features a Xiaomi filter would provide, but if you are looking for a compact air filter, this is a good option a definitely a notch above the design of cheaper brand such as Renpho's own air purifier.
I like mine, but I do wish I bought a bigger one.
Thanks OP. Bought one for a small room. Will wait for sale on a bigger unit for the bed room.
Looks like a pretty good router
I run a 25L De'Longhi dehumidifier 24/7 and clean the air filter every weekend (always ends up caked with dust.
Would this product do anything the De'Longhi isn't doing already?Just a warning, they are using misleading title. I ordered yesterday and received the 800 instead of 800i and they have mislabeled which is super misleading.
Quite a difference between the models. I'd return it if that happened to me.
For anyone wondering, the differences are listed here:
https://www.philips.com.au/etc/philips/b2c/compareproducts.h…
Should be a rule that you can't post air purifiers without at least specifying the CADR and the corresponding noise level.
At the highest speed setting the 800i has a CADR of 190 m3/h and noise of 61 dB https://www.philips.com.au/c-p/AC0850_70/800i-series-compact…
61dB is incredibly loud. Most would not tolerate anything more than 50 dB in real life.
So I don't see how this is a good deal, when you can pop by IKEA and get the STARKVIND https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/starkvind-air-purifier-white-sm…
which can pump out a CADR of 190 m3/h at only 43dB(A) https://www.ikea.com/au/en/manuals/starkvind-air-purifier-wh…At max speed, the STARKVIND can generate a CADR of 270 m3/h @ 53dB(A)
Does any one know when the cash back promote will be back?