Saw this deal while scrolling through Mwave, seems like a cheap price for a RTX 3090.
ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF Gaming OC 24GB Video Card $1699 Shipped @ Mwave
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Same here HODL, atm this card is worth $1000 max, those poor b***stard paid double or triple the price for this card 6-12 months ago..OUCH….
$2.5-$3k is a stretch for some sure but for others meh. It’s kinda meh for me now but on principle alone you’d have had to prize those $$ out of my dead hands for this - even when RTX3090 was super hot. If it had been possible I may have reluctantly paid $1699 max for it early-mid last year..maybe. Now it’s let’s see how 7900xt rolls. I’d sooner stay on a console than be Nvidia’s bitch.
Which is what plenty here fail to acknowledge. Plenty of PC gamers have no issue paying $3k for a GPU.
I was forced to upgrade and paid $2k for mine in the previous summer holidays. 1080Ti finally carked it after years.
I built an ITX PC with the 3090 + 5800X and play on the TV now (4k/60/HDR). I wanted to wait until October/November this year to get AM4 + 7xxx or 4xxx series from AMD/GPU. God of War and Spider-Man look amazing on a 65" screen with HDR and as much as I dislike Nvidia, DLSS has been a godsend. Here's hoping FSR and the 7xxx series from AMD take it to Nvidia.
It's a rip off but that's why I always go for the highest tier when I have to upgrade. You might get ripped off but enjoying things maxed out instead of waiting for card prices to drop before you can play what you want to play. I also skip at least one generation so if you divide the cost/year it's not as bad (at least that's how I rationalise it :P ).
can't take HODL to the grave son
I expect imminent buyers remorse at this price
Cheaper than iPhone 14 Pro
Much better deal if you compare it with iPhone 14 Pro using $/FLOPS or $/kg metrics.
iPhone 14 pro prices are unreal in Australia.
Try having a look at countries like e.g., South Africa for what it could cost. Aus is positively a bargain in comparison.
@StingyJoe: Not sure why you got negged for telling the truth. Many countries have import taxes that are ridiculous so that less money gets out of the country for expensive stuff - like highend phones, sports car and bikes etc. Australia is far better than many countries in that regard.
@[Deactivated]: I don't mind the negging too much. People who have never lived in other counties always tend to think the worst of their own. Aus is pretty fantastic, and obviously, OzBargain makes it more affordable :)
Will be cheaper after few months
Not even that..
They are planning on dumping the price in a month or so.
We hear this every month…..or so
And every month the price goes down. Go and check out some of the $3.5k "deals" for 3090s earlier this year.
@Pugkin: Mate, prices have almost reduced in half compared to what they were few months back. Not sure what you are speaking about. Yes, its not going down lower on the lower end cards where margins are not high, but higher end sure it is. I remember my friend paying 1K for a 3060.
@iseeyou1312: guess what? there's not as bad a shortage NOW because mining has gone bum up and even the miners are trying to dump their cards (but no one wants something with no warranty and that has been ran at max. capacity for an extended period of time), also the shipping issues aren't as bad as earlier in the year. I'll make a similar comparison as you and not take historical events into my forecast - lettuce was $15 each earlier this year, but they're cheaper now and the price will continue to drop.
@gizmomelb: Mining hasn't actually gone bum up yet, it's still profitable. The ETH merge is a few days away and there's still the hashrate equivalent of 15 million 3070s mining ETH. There's millions of mining cards that are going to be getting sold over the next month or two.
And we have the 4090 October launch announcement just over a week away, which will basically make all the high end cards (3080 and up) worthless at their current prices. Plus, enthusiast will also be selling their cards in preparation for a 4090 upgrade or a 4080/7900 XT in November.
So basically, the next few months will be terrible for GPU prices.
What do you mean by dumping the price?
Lovelace will be announced September 20, they need to clear A LOT of stock before its October launch.
@iseeyou1312: A few shops displayed the 4090 cards with a price of around 4k. I don't know if it's just a placeholder price or they know something. If the price is true, NVidia doesn't have to drop the price of 3090 much more.
@DmytroP: Saw that. If that's true, people will wait for 4080/7800xt. But I highly doubt it. May be attempt to sell more 3xxx cards.
@[Deactivated]: I'm also sceptical about 4k price for 4090, I'd not expect large sales at such a price.
@DmytroP: Ya, thats absurd prices for sure. Maybe just a mock attempt to sell more 3xxx cards right now rather than waiting by putting fear into people ;)
what would be the ok price ?
Usually a tier down, maybe a bit less.. So a 3090 at price of 3080 etc.. When a new gen is released that's about the gains you expect in the new gen, although this gen is touting a massive jump in performance. Apparently a 4070 will be on par so a drop to around $800-1000 ( taking into consideration Nvidia will likely up the msrp of the new Gen). In saying that I don't think it'll drop that low.
This^
And the question on everyone's lips is will the 4k series really be that much faster.
I'm thinking $1200-$1300, similar reasoning. That 24gb ram is always going to put it above a 4070, and is very expensive
@greatlamp: Yep true, but that's a small subset of the market, 24gig won't help in gaming for the near future but if you wanted it for gaming and other productivity based work then even this price is good.
If we are talking gaming performance alone it'll have to compete with 4070/4080 and 7700XT/7800XT(these will likely carry over 16gb vram). Again this all based on rumours.
24gb ram is always going to put it above a 4070
yeah! I am also looking for that, would there be any cheaper used cards after ETH merge ?
@greatlamp: Nah, the 4080 will be around $1300, but ~50% faster for gaming than the 3090. The 3090 will be sub $1k.
Check out this table https://www.3dcenter.org/news/news-des-9-september-2022
The AD104 die sits firmly in the 3090/Ti region - which is the die expected to be behind the 4070.
The 4070 is expected to be around US$600 (although they might have to push that down if AMD eat their lunch) which translates to AU$964 - taking into account our woeful exchange rate and GST.
You might make a case for the 3090 being worth more, given its greater memory. It is however a generation behind, and that also needs to be taken into account.
So, $1000 is the appropriate price in the long run - but NVidia will do everything in their power to prevent this and keep their shareholders happy. However the people who bought 3090s are exactly the people who will be floggin' off their old cards to get the new 4090s - so expect reality to hit hard around the Oct/Nov timeframe.
@sane: Yeh logically I can't see it unfolding too much differently, AMD have to really come to the party in this gen or Nvidia will artificially control stock and keep prices up.
It's going to be super interesting either way.
@scud70: NVIDIA wouldn't have prepared such a powerful power hungry card if they didn't know AMDs plans. AMD cards will be plenty powerful.
Yeah prices haven’t gone down since last month. Not sure how long to HODL
Intel ARC goes nowhere. Team green still rules. You gotta pay more soon, better buy this before its too late.
You gotta pay more soon? For the 40XX series maybe.
New cards run more efficient, less power and heat and most likely the same RRP or less than current 30 series cards… But yes buy now shill….
You’ve managed to aggravate the Anti-nvidias, people waiting for next gen, and alienated the people who have/had to buy nvidia for specific reasons, good job
better buy now before its too late lol
If you need advice on graphics cards, just do the opposite of what non-LHR recommends
Intel ARC goes nowhere because there are so so many GPUs getting offloaded into the market that they simply cannot compete or give out GPUs less than thier manufacturing costs.
ARC isn't going to be viable for the next 1-2 years anyway while driver and api support is fixed. Then I see intel taking 20% of the market
No. There are strong rumours yesterday that ARC discrete is shutdown from MLID.
Too late for what exactly? 3000 series inventory is very high, and they can't move it by all accounts, and to add to their woes, they're about to add 4000 cards on top of it! There is absolutely zero indication prices are going anywhere but down, and fast.
That's all without assuming amd launches a single competitive gpu.
Once the Ethereum merge complete less than a week the market gonna flooded with used graphic cards from miners. And the RTX 4000 series announcement will bring down the prices of these even more.
I'll be sure to snag one up on the 21st when they are on ebay for dirt-cheap. Wouldn't mind the vram for Stable Diffusion.
Why, what's happening on the 21st??
Geforce event on 20th sept
Bought this card almost 2 years ago when it was on $2449 just after the launch paid it off as i work for real estate video and photo editor so i have no regrets even if i need to sell it for $500 after year from now on.
MS-Paint would do a better job though :D
Nice try …but i can do better then that..:)
Cool story, thanks
any recommended ~ 1000 W PSU ?
Undervolt it! I have this card and runs now at 270-280watts max, default is 350-370watts. 70watts just goes to waste for onllyt a few frames if that. Also runs cooler 60c or less not 90c like default.
thanks mate, what is your PSU?
I have a Corsair AX1200i, but i bought that like 5 years ago because future proof, looks like that worked out. :)
This is ridiculous. This 3090 was exactly this price for at least a week last month, from mwave as well.
They just keep changing prices up and down to trick you into thinking prices are lower now.I wanted to HODL also, but after seeing this video https://youtu.be/15FX4pez1dw it looks like the nvida CEO is trying to F with us and stop the price from going down.
You may not like Jay, so stick to the facts reported, namely, the position from the nvidia ceo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15FX4pez1dw
Nvidia are going to try and stick with the revised prices on older models, for a while at least. Pretty typical sales call.
My guess is they will blink eventually and dump the old stock.
Theres one area Jay doesn't cover and that's the eth PoS, if that does lead to a mass dump of used gpus then that's another reason Nvidia are reducing stock.. It's a bit of a wait and see but they'll definitely know more than us consumers. He also looks at the 'price adjustment' as them keeping prices high, it could also very well mean they'll adjust the price down to add in the new cards likely at higher msrp.
My view is a lot like hardware unboxed, they are a bit more pragmatic and advise getting the Lower end amd cards if you really need one until market stabilises.
I never understood why anybody really needed one of these. Now after 2 weeks of running stable diffusion tests for 2 weeks straight, damn, I kind of want one…
The 6900xt at $999 was the best deal this gen. The very small increase in performance is not worth $700 lol @ Nvidia.
ram and RT?
6900xt
Without CUDA it is worse than a GT1030 for some applications though
HODL.
Anything over $800 for this is a rip off.
while massive Vram is tempting, as VR market grow and AI software getting more popular, not long there will be ram slot on GPU for us to plugin rams to lol
They wont put slot-ram on graphics cards. They are looking for ever finer timing on ram & the physical distance of the traces are starting to really matter. Lower latency & associated issues with longer traces is why they moved away from removable Vram in the first place (it was a thing back in the VERY early days for a short time).
My money is on moving towards a monolithic silicon design where the ram is integrated into the GPU silicon. AMD is already experimenting with layering cache on top of cpu cores to try & cram things closer together.
we had such graphics cards long ago, in ISA and PCI era, can't remember whether there were AGP cards with expandable memory though
HODL make them bleed green
I wouldn't even pay $1000 for this now and that's exactly what they get for price gouging there customers
Eh lots of 3090s sold to miners as they never had the LHR restrictions put on them. Ill wait for the second hand market to crash harder then buy there. New isnt worth it at this price.
2nd hand GPUs are as reliable as 2nd hand condoms. used and abused and no warranty. waste of money.
Not true at all total rubbish
Is this the fastest GPU out ATM?
No the 3090Ti or 6950XT is.
the sweet spot will be after Christmas
LMAO Out of stock hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Yes seems in stock again but price has increased
Umart had it down to $1649 last night, but that has gone back up now also.
yeh saw that missed it before i could order
has dropped again at umart
Cheap. But still.. HODL.