Seller has 100% feedback 22 total items sold but only 1 positive feedback.
They have many items about 40% cheaper than other sellers for the same product. 26 items listed.
If I pay by Paypal, am I 100% safe and guaranteed to get my money back if seller does not fulfill the item or item is fake/faulty?
Or is there some secret button they can click that guarantees that they get my money no matter what after I paid?
I found some more feedback info in the comment below. What do you think after reading that?
Would a genuine store risk their reputation by not fulfilling orders on their "2nd account"? or do you think the genuine store account got hacked?
This is the store that seems to be associated by the way. https://www.ebay.com.au/str/azeshopaustralia
67k items sold. 98.1% feedback. They received positive feedback directly from this store.
What's the actual store you're looking to buy from?
@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: That's simply just an automated feedback, no way it was done manually
Store created not even a month ago, I wouldn't touch it with a 10' pole
@spackbace: Automated feedback? How does that work?
Because in my head, AZeshop (which is a store I have purchased from before) owner must have logged in and left that feedback. Is it possible to hack such feedback? e.g. AZeshop did not write that and has no idea that their feedback is on Electricunicorn?
@n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: They're not associated at all, electricunicorn purchased something from AZeshop, paid for it promptly and AZeshop left them a review.
It's an easy way to build feedback, go buy a bunch of cheap items. Both sellers and buyers get feedback on ebay.
@freefall101: "electricunicorn purchased something from AZeshop, paid for it promptly and AZeshop left them a review."
Alright I looked at the feedback again and I clearly see what you are saying now. I didn't see it in the beginning they must be relying on moron's like me to think they are "associated" with a successful seller.
Clear as night and day now. Thanks.
Ok some weirdness when I look closer at the feedback. Originally it showed "none" in the "Received as seller" area.
But clicking the other areas. In "All received" - Has a positive feedback comment that commends a buyer. In "Left for others" - Has a positive feedback comment commending a seller.
The problem is the "buyer" and "seller" are the same account. BUT I recognize the name of the buying and selling account they left feedback for. It is a third party store that has many products Fulfilled by Amazon. So I know they are a genuine store that fulfills orders that makes me think this is just sockpuppeting by that store creating a new store front. And I will actually get what I order? Sorry if this is hard to understand.
if it is too good to be true, then just give it a pass.
you may get your money back but the time and hassle is not worth it
That's the thing, the price is in between "too good" and "normal price" so I am having trouble. But maybe that is a sign the seller will behave badly.
eBay has Money Back Guarantee where they will step in for you and help out if sh*t hits the fan but nothing is ever 100% and generally when something is too good to be true it generally is.
https://pages.ebay.com.au/ebay-money-back-guarantee/index.ht…
Triangulation fraud.
If you have the money and do not care about it being tied up a for a few months then go for it. Just make sure you video everything and keep copies of the web pages with the specifications on it and make sure you pay via CC and make sure it's one of the ebay stores that are covered by the add about getting refunded if the goods are not what you ordered. And make sure you contact them for their ACN before orderign anything and make sure you lookup the ABN to see that it's valid.
And and and…….. BTW I would not buy anything from a place that is less than 30 days old and does not have pickup in Sydney from "their" warehouse and does not want you to phone them…..
If it smells like doggy doo doo then it's doggy doo doo and this smells like it.
All of that is required just to cover your ass? I think I over estimated how good Paypal buyer protection was.
Yeah with some help from the comments here it is clear as night and day now that the seller is suss. It's going to be a waste of time as another comment said.
Absolutely not - if it's too good to be true, it usually is
Thanks guys for helping me figure this out.
Most likely a waste of time so I won't bother with the seller.
They have many items about 40% cheaper than other sellers for the same product
Thought that would be super obvious, but predictably irrational.
I don't get this popular opinion here that anything over 40% discount must either be not possible or "unlikely that anyone was able to purchase at that price".
Early on I have posted a few deals which were over 40% off and I was able to prove that not only was I able to purchase at that price and get what was described but the price also didn't go up after I purchased. My deal history is not that long so you will be able to see a few there such as EFM products, Lenovo keyboard etc.
I am guessing you missed out on the Lenovo free $100 points credit with no minimum spend deal as well? I honestly had the assumption that it would not be honored but plenty of users in the comments seem to have got what they ordered.
Weirdly the deals I posted with the most positive votes are those which are priced slightly lower than it was previously such as Anker Powerbank/speaker, Elgato streamdeck. So I guess that's what qualifies as a good deal.
The difference is that the deals you posted were sold by Amazon, this is not…
To be honest I haven't shopped much at all on eBay. I always thought it was way more risky than Amazon.
But a user changed my mind when they said there are still good deals to be had and it's safe as long as you pay via paypal. And the seller they were referring to had pretty horrible feedback when I checked on Amazon, but had decent 99.3% feedback on eBay. They even went as far as to mention "local warehouse official distributor yadayada" so I felt much more confident about buying on eBay.
The same products I was looking at for $82 was now $59 at the seller I linked, so I thought it's not that big of a price difference and possibly a genuine seller.
Anyway a bunch of poor sods have purchased from the seller since I have watched it's "number sold" go up slowly since I started watching the item.
I guess scammers are willing to put more effort in these days if they think it's worth it.
Pay with a VISA/MASTERCARD or even Amex from your bank, and that is your final and utmost security.
No other protection will beat that protection, this is the reason behind any help being given from eBay/paypal etc. They are all afraid of going against bank, and VISA/Mastercard protocol's.
Paying with paypal, or eBay gives you an extra layer of protection. Keep in mind though if you lodge a claim with a higher authority you'd likely not be able to lodge a claim with eBay directly. (e.g. if you lodge claim with Paypal first, you wont be able to lodge claim with eBay from then, But you'd still be able to lodge a claim to authority higher than paypal (aka your bank). If you lodge directly with your bank, you wont be able to claim from either Paypal or eBay (bank visa/mastercard protocols require customer to try to resolve issue directly with merchant first though)
However, if stuff goes wrong eBay is always customer oriented 99% of times so you'll be covered by them.
THAT BEING said, just the fact that seller only has 1 feedback doesn't means he's a dodgy MF seller. Plenty of dodgy sellers, even big retailers (outside of eBay) who do dodgy things and screw customers.
Yes, every seller on eBay had just one feedback in their past, and the overwhelming majority turned out to be trustworthy.
How expensive is the item?
If its only a few dollars i might risk it personally.
Remember a lot of people who use ebay never give feedback so doesnt mean its dodgy but being dramatically cheaper is a good indicator.
Comes done to how urgently you need the product in case it dosent come.
The items don't actually exist
If you think they do, go nuts and buy them all!