RAM Problems DDR3600?

EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 11:36

After some other opinions on a recent problem.

I built a new PC last April (2021) and have been having some problems lately with Windows 10 crashing with blue screen and 'pfn list corrupt'' error. I ran memtest86 on boot which picked up errors. I then updated BIOS and loaded the motherboard defaults (Asrock X570, steel legend with Ryzen 5600X ), selected XMP 2.0 3600 preset. Ran memtest overnight with no errors. Nothing is overclocked. This is a new problem that has only started in the last couple of months. I tried using a 3333 (?) setting but it still BSOD'd.

It just crashed again while I was writing this post.

I bought the Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz PC4-28800 Dual Memory Kit - PVS432G360C8K.

(https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B088KSRW4S/ref=ppx_yo_d…)

Should I return the kit and replace it with other ram?
Should I be tweaking the RAM setting manually rather than relying on the XMP 2 setting?

Thanks

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Comments

  • 7ekn00 on 24/08/2022 - 12:11

    To stabilize RAM just add more voltage (usually +0.1V will do it)

    Ran memtest overnight with no errors.

    So what makes you think it's RAM?

    Lots of reasons a PC can BSOD - start PC in safemode and see if BSOD persists, if not, then it's not hardware ;)

    • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 12:41

      Cos the first time I ran memtest before updating the BIOS I was getting RAM errors, will run memtest again overnight tonight and see what happens. As for running in safe mode, the BSODs only happen maybe once or twice every day or so so not often enough to have my main PC offline. Cheers.

      • iDroid on 24/08/2022 - 12:49

        It could be a power supply issue.

        • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 12:55

          geez how would I test for that?

          The PSU was new in April along with all the other other gear.

  • idjces on 24/08/2022 - 12:41

    Dig through the comments here for some info which could help. tldr cpu's don't officially support memory speeds of 3600, even though manufacturer's like to advertise those overclocked numbers

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/678636

    • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 12:43

      I see. I'm happy to drop the speed down a bit to accommodate, but not too much. Will have a read through that link. Thanks

  • scrimshaw on 24/08/2022 - 13:11

    Increasing DRAM voltage to 1.35v may help with stability. Though it should be noted that when you activate an XMP profile, the voltage is automatically bumped up to 1.35v in most cases.

    You could also try disabling the C-states in the BIOS and see if it resolves the issue.

    • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 14:00

      Cheers, yeah it was already running at 1.35, though see note below where I've been running it at 2666mhz since this morning.

  • sTein0 on 24/08/2022 - 13:27

    I bought the exact same ram a few years ago and I noticed my PC would crash in certain scenarios such as playing CK3. I ran a ram test and it turned out the ram was faulty.

    • sTein0 on 24/08/2022 - 13:28

      The test was memtest86 I believe

      • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 14:00

        Cheers, what did you replace it with?

        • sTein0 on 24/08/2022 - 14:31

          I got some crucial ballistix 3600, which are some of the best ddr4 for the price.

  • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 14:16

    Crashed again.

    This time the error was 'memory management'.

    I forgot to mention that I have been running the RAM at stock 2666mhz since this morning to see if that would make a difference. Apparently not.

    So after the latest crash I ran memtest again and got the following results.

    Both sticks of Ram in slot 2 and slot 4: fail

    https://imgur.com/qG4vi4L

    Stick 1 in slot 2: Fail

    (coming)

    Stick 2 in slot 2: Pass

    (coming)

    So I'm feeling more confidant that it's a dodgy stick of ram.

    In which case what should I replace it with? I wont be overclocking and just want reliability. The ram I have been using was claimed to OK at 3600 mhz which I guess it was but now has a faulty stick. Is there any better quality stuff that's come out in the 15 months since I bought these 2 sticks?

    Thanks

    • bazingaa on 24/08/2022 - 14:31

      slot 2 and slot 4

      I hope you are using as per motherboard manual, some may use slot 1 & 3 for first set of RAMs.
      BSOD are so rare these days, as most hardware compatibility is not bad as those days. I only got BSOD when I was trying to use some PCI devices with 5600x.

      I use G.Skill Aegis 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 Red DDR4 with my 5600x + B550M happily for almost a year, but it is not 3600 MHz anyway.

      • EightImmortals on 24/08/2022 - 14:43

        Yeah manual says slot 2 and 4 (A2 and B2 from memory), besides they have been in those slots for 15 months and the issues only started recently.

        • bazingaa on 24/08/2022 - 14:45

          so most probable cause seems to be failing Stick 1 .
          Have you tested with OCCT too ?

  • smashman42 on 24/08/2022 - 15:47
    +2

    Failing memtest at all, even with XMP off, is straight up RMA the RAM.

    Well, could potentially be the mobo or even CPU too - but without more sticks of RAM to test with it is a bit hard to nail down

    I'd RMA it if in warranty.

    If not, test sticks individually to find out if one is a keeper and the other a dud, then maybe you could if you're lucky find one to match it. Odds on you'd need another full kit tho

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