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Ebay Tuesday special from Harris - haven't seen a 5600x under 300 for a while [edit] Back to $309 now.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X OEM CPU + AMD CPU Cooler (4.6GHz, 6 Cores) $289 Delivered @ HT via eBay
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VS the 5600? From the reviews I have seen i dont think so
For productivity stuff, it can be. For gaming, less so.
For productivity, you’d probably want the 5700X anyway
maybe if it's an extra $20. But not at this price.
It isn't.
Why not getting 12400f? B660 board price has dropped recently.
Because it's a good time for upgrading current AM4 setups with older Ryzen CPUs.
Because you can get both cheaper on the AMD side, making for a more efficient PC as a bonus.
$229 5600 + $89 B550M.
Cheaper with AM4 that I agree with but:
more efficient PC
?
Modest power draw is exactly what we expect from AMD’s Zen 3 architecture. The Ryzen 5 5600 and Ryzen 7 5700X sip power thanks to their 65W TDPs limiting them to 76W of package power. In fact, system-wide power draw for these chips is about the same as the CPU-only power usage for a Core i7-12700K!. Source
Intel hasn't quite figured efficiency out. The performance difference is negligible (and worse for Intel when throttling occurs).
Timed Turbo Boost limits are also back, with a peak power consumption of 117W for 56 seconds before the chip throttles back to 65W permanently for the rest of the workload. Source
@Techie4066: jeezz. thought the problem was only with mobile chips, what them intel engineers be doing :/
@Brrrrt: I mean from what I've read they've definitely improved on 10th/11th gen attempts, but they're still using 10nm (hidden behind the deceptive "Intel 7" moniker). Generally speaking they weren't ready for a race with AMD on core count.
@Techie4066: I know about intel 10, but I thought its pretty on par with tsmc 7nm as far as density goes? I know on mobile chips its the uncore power usage thats exceeding high, is it the same for the desktop or some other intel fu*kery going on here
@Brrrrt: All the gains made moving to 10nm have been lost when pushing 5ghz. Power consumption increases exponentially.
The underlying power consumption problems with the architecture haven't been solved. Actually that isn't fair, AMD chips don't run at 5ghz either, if they did their power consumption would be similar or worse.
Throttling can be disabled on any decent motherboard to run at high power
Where are you seeing $89 B550M?
Reckon those 230$ 5600 deals are better, you are looking at 60$ for negligble performance increase
Difficult to argue against that, really, just a matter of taste.
are we using the lickmus test for performance?
What's with the X? Wouldn' thte 5600G be better as you have built in graphics?
I've got the 5600X and the G would have saved me $150 by not having to buy a basic graphics unit.
The 5600G performs worse than the 5600. For gaming, the 5600 is the better option but if you’re just using it for general purpose, the 5600G will be better and save you from buying a discrete graphics card
When performing worse, are we talking about 5%? I would have thought they all have the same frequency and cores and threads
The 5600G has lower clocks, and a lot les cache.
Even if it's more or less 5% you'll hardly notice it. I have a 1600af and a 5600 (non x or g) and in every day stuff hardly notice the difference in performance between the two, though on paper the 5600 would be a good 40% faster but real world, hardly notice…..thus, even the 5600G should be fine for 90% of users and bonus of an awesome onboard graphics solution for some 1080p gaming
You’ve got a better (faster, more cache) CPU there in the 5600x than the 5600g but yeah, you miss out on the built in graphics.
Different part - the 5600g has no PCIe 4 and less L3 cache. Nothing wrong with a 5600G for something like a NAS though.
it's been benchmarked multiple times that in most cases, hardly any difference with today's dedicated graphics cards between PCIe 3 and 4. lucky to be 1% extra frames with a mid range say 6600XT. you won't notice in real world. but what you would notice, is not having to buy a dedicated graphics card if you had the 5600G..and still be able to play some 1080p games
Given that most PCIe for GPU cards is either 3x16 or 4x8 you're technically correct, the best kind of correct. Nonetheless, it's a thing to be aware of.
@motk: very good point. though, my thoughts are, in a few years time, by the time PCIe 4x16 is actually saturated by a graphics card, PCIe 5 platforms will be widespread across most enthusiasts so it's a moot point. however, cards that are wired for 4x8 now still perform at near 99% at 3x8 in 99% of games…
heck, my office pc is a i5 2500k, with a gtx 960 and that still plays most games, just turn settings down…i can play borderlands 3 at 1440p with that spec on lowest (still looks great to me) lol…
@Doomedgrind: This is why I think the 5600g is an ideal NAS CPU. Enough grunt for your proxmoxes or whatever, and an adequate graphics ability for display or transcoding.
@motk: no worries. i think the 5600g is an ideal primary CPU for 90% of users. a NAS could get by with a 1st or 2nd gen intel core i5 from 10+ years ago lol and throw in some random gt 730 or whatever you got laying around. not many average users would actually need a NAS let alone a dedicated PC for a NAS
Anyone still shopping for AM4 CPU's just bookmark CCPU's price list - these are the MSY style walk in prices to compare with
Any deals need to be ~10% less than these prices to be considered a real deal, like the recent 5950X for $725
Terrible looking website, good prices though.
That's why the prices are good, they are the modern MSY
Modern? It looks like the site is from 2005
Careful - I bought this a few months ago and no fan was shipped with it - even though it was on the invoice! They fought for one email saying OEM doesnt have a fan!, and I noticed the page was changed back to just CPU only.
Then I sent the invoice and they relented and then sent me a wraith prism.
EDIT - Bought from their website - not ebay, but still.Is it worth upgrading to this from a r5 2600? (I have a b450 board so it should work after a bios update)
From a 2600? Sure, but do check out the 5600 first.
I didn't think 5600x was with the extra $?