Help Deciding between Cars - New Ford Escape or Second Hand BMW X2

RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 14:09
Last edited 02/07/2022 - 15:02 by 1 other user

I know this is a bit subjective but I am in two minds about what I should do and just looking for some opinions. I have a 2013 Ford Kuga that has some issues. I have to pick between getting:

2022 Ford Escape AWD ST Line which should be in Australia in about two weeks. It has a five year warranty and capped services.

2018 BMW X2 xdrive20d M. Has a Full service history and buying it from BMW but there is no warranty or service plan on it. They do offer an aftermarket warranty. This is through Presidian and it will be on the plan where it is market related so there is no cap if they have to fix something. It acts like a BMW warranty (have been told this, not sure how true this is but you take your car to BMW and they still sort it out.) They also offer a bolt on servicing package. But of course these are all addons. The warranty is $3k for five 5years and about the same for the service plan

So basically the Ford and BMW (with extended warranty) works out to the same price. Car wise, the BMW feels more solid, little smaller and drivers a bit harder and sportier. The escape drives softer and steering wheel actually feels nicer but the rest does feel a bit cheaper. And I have no idea how good this Presidian warranty is.

Automotive BMW Ford Escape SUV

Comments

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 02/07/2022 - 14:11
    +2

    Ford comes with working indicators, but doesn't have an ENVY badge, has a 5y warranty and capped services. BMW has no warranty or service plan on it.

  • CheapandUsed on 02/07/2022 - 14:26

    Have watched a few reviews of the escape st line and it looks pretty great.

    Engine is an updated version used in the Focus ST. Decent sized boot and car like handling.

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:02
      +1

      The car is nice, drives nice but it does feel cheap.

      • Domicron on 02/07/2022 - 20:39

        Try Vignale. with a moon roof.

  • mapax on 02/07/2022 - 14:28
    +3

    If you’re trying to over compensate for something get the BMW

  • Eatslikeacat on 02/07/2022 - 14:29
    +1

    When standing near earshot of the 2013 Ford Kuga say out loud "I'm thinking of buying a new car". The Kuga will roar back into life.

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:02

      Lol

  • bobbified on 02/07/2022 - 14:38
    +4

    If you have a high maintenance budget after buying the car, I'd go the BMW for the interior feel. But if servicing and parts costs are going to be an issue, avoid the BMW.

    • MildMethod on 03/07/2022 - 08:50

      That's something everyone assumes, but I replaced the brake rotors and pads on my X1 for $500. If you're not afraid to do a little maintenance yourself, prices for parts are comparable.

      • bobbified on 03/07/2022 - 21:06

        The price of the genuine parts seem to be quite different. Especially when that part isn't designed to be a consumable.

        I used to do the maintenance stuff myself but living in an apartment these days, there's just no space to do anything.

  • Keplaffintech on 02/07/2022 - 14:51
    +3

    Have you cross-shopped anything else? they're two very different choices with respect to expected costs (depreciation / servicing / repairs)

    Personally, I'd only get the BMW if I was getting it with the extended factory warranty.

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:03

      They don't provide factory extended warranties :(

      • Keplaffintech on 02/07/2022 - 21:15
        +1

        ah, that's a shame. Read the PDS of any 3rd party warranty very carefully. I've had a good experience with a 3rd party extended factory warranty but they're not all the same

  • SF3 on 02/07/2022 - 15:09
    +1

    Neither, need poll for better options.

  • SBOB on 02/07/2022 - 15:15
    +1

    Strange cross shop

    Having test drove a ford escape it does have a heap of go, but it's interior quality is lower than other similar priced small sized SUV, found the seats not that comfortable…. But the people buying this are buying it purely as it's the 'hottest' small SUV in it's comparative segment for the price, and don't care about the drop in inferior quality for the trade off.

    Personally wouldn't buy either (wife ended up in a seltos gt line when we were looking at vehicles in that segment)

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:04

      I had a look at a few cars. Also the Kia sportage and the GT line is nice but only stock in months. I didn't test drive this and heard bad things about all the touch screen stuff

      • SBOB on 02/07/2022 - 16:27

        I lucked on a zero wait for the seltos, but yes, if not waiting a long period for a new vehicle is an issue then your choices are severely limited.

  • jizmo on 02/07/2022 - 15:18
    -2

    Only 2 types of people that drive a BMW. Those that don't know to drive and the others a thief in a short term stunt car.

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:06

      Mostly because I want a sedan as I enjoy a sporty car. My previous car was a Merc C350 but that said there was no issue about speed limit being around 80 most of the time haha. Normal speed was 140 to 160.

      But i do have 2 kids so when its family trips sedans aren't as comfortable as a suv. So i was thinking maybe the x2 would be a good fit.

      • omguleh on 03/07/2022 - 21:43

        X2 is a bit small with 2 kids. I have an x3 and feel it’s a bit small for trips.

        Have you tested the X2 with the child seats and your gear?

  • this is us on 02/07/2022 - 15:35

    I'd take a BMW under warranty.

    I don't like Ford but apparently my choice is because I have a small penis and don't know how to drive. 😏

    I do think that you can add options and create a poll. I'd start with VW Tiguan and Honda CRV as options.

    • Mechz on 02/07/2022 - 15:51
      +1

      Tiguans are terrible IMO. Test drove one last year and they're just so cheaply appointed compared to everything else even at the higher spec trims.

      • this is us on 02/07/2022 - 16:00
        +3

        I've had two Tiguans and I loved them. Agree that they might not be as competitive these days.

        It's good to have options and people choosing different cars.

    • this is us on 02/07/2022 - 16:51
      +2

      Just bringing some Finnish evidence to the "BMW drivers are psychopaths" discussion:

      https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furiou…

      "The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.

      “These personality traits explain the desire to own high-status products, and the same traits also explain why such people break traffic regulations more frequently than others,” says Lönnqvist.

      He points out that money is, of course, necessary to buy high-status products, which is why rich people are more likely to drive high-status cars."

      And then…

      "One of the more unexpected results was that another personality type is also drawn to high-status cars: the conscientious. People with this type of personality are, as a rule, respectable, ambitious, reliable and well-organised. They take care of themselves and their health and often perform well at work.

      “The link is presumably explained by the importance they attach to high quality. All makes of car have a specific image, and by driving a reliable car they are sending out the message that they themselves are reliable,” Lönnqvist explains."

      Unsure if the profile is the same in Australia, but it's an interesting analysis.

    • mapax on 02/07/2022 - 17:04

      Interesting that you assumed genitalia when I was referring to over compensating for a lack of personality…

  • djones145 on 02/07/2022 - 15:38
    +1

    What advantages does this motor car have over say, a train? … which I could also afford

    • mapax on 02/07/2022 - 16:02
      +1

      Even the BMW will might be more reliable than Melbournes train network…

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:06
      +1

      I prefer driving

    • this is us on 02/07/2022 - 16:15

      "The Victorian Government is investing $986 million in 25 new X’Trapolis 2.0 trains and supporting infrastructure to modernise the Victorian train fleet."

      I couldn't afford a train… 986M/25 is roughly 40M each… 😊

      Seriously, unless you live in Europe, you can't easily travel to destinations without a car. I believe OP has already considered, and eliminated, this option. Even if you live in Melbourne or Sydney (not sure about the other cities), train/tram can work for the daily basic commuting to/from work but not to enjoy other surrounding areas.

      • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 16:24

        For me its more the fact thwt i didn't grow up using trains. I have always had to drive my car to everywhere and i just like it. Sure there are times the train isn't bad but its not my preferred method of transport. And I need a car anywhay with 2 kids i am not going to struggle having to load things etc.

    • MrThing on 02/07/2022 - 17:45
      +1

      So, you have a family of 5 and you need to go to colesworth or aldi to do a weekly food shop

      your move

  • Baysew on 02/07/2022 - 15:39

    What would the answer be, in say nine years from now - Second hand 2022 Ford Escape v Third hand 2018 BMW X2.

  • El cheepo on 02/07/2022 - 15:52
    +11

    The reason you are not looking at a 2022 BMW should be the same reason you should not be purchasing a second hand 2018 out of warranty one.

    • Domicron on 02/07/2022 - 20:44
      +2

      Lol. Thread closed.

  • this is us on 02/07/2022 - 16:03
    -1

    You might also want to consider this report if you don't want to die in a car crash.

  • Euphemistic on 02/07/2022 - 17:07
    +1

    No chance I’d go for a used BMW over a new car with warranty. Even with the ‘special’ warranty they offer it’ll likely exclude a bunch of stuff and not really be an effective warranty.

  • MrThing on 02/07/2022 - 17:43
    +1

    BMW will break down a hundred times and cost you thousands to fix and service (indicators optional extra)

    Ford will run until it falls a part and cost you pennies to fix or service (indicators come as factory standard)

  • apple2016 on 02/07/2022 - 18:11

    buying it from BMW but there is no warranty

    If you are buying from a dealer , you will get a 3 month / 5000km warranty.
    https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/cars/buying-a-used-car/warra…

    • RenVilo on 02/07/2022 - 20:49

      Yea they do provide that but that is useless. Honestly don't understand why bmw is only 3y warranty in Aus and why they don't extend bmw factory warranties

      • Pelicannn on 02/07/2022 - 22:46

        I’ve had 3 bmw’s now. Yes, the warranty is only 3 years but I have had numerous things fixed over the two previous cars for things that occurred outside of warranty. If you get your car serviced by BMW they usually are willing to help out for issues outside of warranty.

        The biggest claim I had was nearly $3000 for new brake disks and some plates that went behind to keep rocks out of the disks plus labour.

  • Some Human on 02/07/2022 - 23:20
    +1

    Camry.

  • Series4Episode10 on 03/07/2022 - 08:31
    +1

    Euro cars are best left to those who trade in and buy a car every 3 years, don't buy a second hand one! they will more likely be a regular at the mechanics and cost you way more than a reliable Jap or the Ford you are looking at, I know a mechanic who would enjoy telling you the stories.

    • Hackney on 03/07/2022 - 09:10

      Yup, once out of warranty, get rid of it.If you do hang on to it, find a repair shop that specialises in Euro cars.

      • Series4Episode10 on 04/07/2022 - 12:16

        And an income capable of supporting the cost of repair

  • 2esc on 03/07/2022 - 11:53

    There are much better new car options out there but of the two choices given the new Ford Escape is a easy choice. The 4 year old BMW would not even be up for consideration sorry quite a bizarre option.

  • Series4Episode10 on 04/07/2022 - 12:18

    I'd be investing in a bomb shelter

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