Computer Spec Help

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  s1Lence on 30/06/2022 - 22:11

  +1

  yes /close

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  mrkorrupt on 30/06/2022 - 22:14

  Go ryzen, much better and AMD maybe moving their low end to AM4 so maybe future upgradeability

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    askbargain on 30/06/2022 - 22:28

    Which one is comparable?

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  smashman42 on 30/06/2022 - 22:45

  +2

  Better than a punch in the face overall, but as someone that owns both the CX550m and CX650m in different PCs, if you can get the 650m for like the $20 price diff it usually is, with its two PCIe cables you'd be better off for future GPU upgrades.

  Intel is better performance for about the same money as AMD atm, especially at that 12400F and below price points.
  Can be worth double checking out the price of a B550 board with a Ryzen 5 5600 non X - it'll be "slower" but still more than enough for those GPUs, and if you find a deal and it saves money to spend elsewhere that's a win. Don't go below the R5 5600 on AMD's side, their lower CPUs are total garbage.

  What monitor do you have for this?

  With no RT the 6600XT is a bang for buck champ for 1440p medium or 1080p ultra (ballpark)

  The 3060 gets you DLSS (better supported than AMD's FSR atm) and much better RT if that floats your boat

  Get a new case, rather than shoehorn new stuff into an old case for the sake of $100ish - you're already spending a grand here, don't cook your new GPU in a crap old case that doesn't breathe

  Something with airflow like the Coolermaster TD500 mesh, Corsair 4000D airflow, or Lian-Li 215 are all pretty good in the $120-150ish mark depending on fans and ARGB options. Always cheaper options of course but the ones I listed all quality without being insane money and include not useless fans

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    askbargain on 30/06/2022 - 22:47

    mrkorrupt and smashman42 give conflicting information, but definitely listen to smashman42 instead.

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    brendanm on 30/06/2022 - 23:01

    Awesome, thanks for the info. Running a Dell s2721q and an oculus rift. Ray tracing is something I don't really understand, may have to check out whether it's worth it.

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  garetz on 30/06/2022 - 23:06

  +4

  Everything looks good but i would upgrade power supply to gold rating.

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  jv on 30/06/2022 - 23:35

  Is the 6600 xt a better choice than a 3060?

  google.com

  "The RTX 3060 did edge ahead by a 7% margin at 1440p, but overall performance was very similar. Performance was also similar when testing with Apex Legends. In short, the 6600 XT was slightly faster at 1080p and then slightly slower at 1440p."

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  Transient on 30/06/2022 - 23:52

  I recently upgraded from a i5 4690 to a i5 12400, ASUS B660M, 16GB 3200 RAM, Corsair CX650M. Still keeping the GTX1060 until I'm happy with RTX 3060Ti or 3070 prices. Also have the Dell s2721 so read that 3060Ti or 3070 would be ideal as a starting point for 27" monitors. Main hassle I had was that my OS drive (Samsung SSD) was MBR rather than GPT configuration so took me a while tinkering with BIOS settings before windows would load properly. Hope it's smooth sailing for you!

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    Transient on 30/06/2022 - 23:55

    I was also happy with my existing case, so just swapped everything over. Also, the newer GPUs are pretty long so you may wish to check that it'll fit your case. Should fit most new cases though.

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  OMGJL on 01/07/2022 - 07:16

  Can possibly use my existing case (some old hp thing), or simply get a new one, though most of them seem very ugly.

  Definitely get a new case, silicone produced in the last few year have dramatically increased its power load, hence dramatically more heat than before, this can cause trouble.

  I've recently seen quite a few users having their GPU heat up too much and making the RAM warm enough to crash (as counterintuitive as it sound, it is true, JEDEC memory have tolerance of 85C which is at 1.2v and loose timing, XMP with higher voltage/tighter timing have way lower temp tolerance, RAM is passively cooled, means it can only dump heat into the air when the air is cooler than itself ——temperature delta, if the case have internal temperature of 45C, the RAM will sit at 55C+ ) High end B-Die usually have tolerance around just shy of 60C.

  so the TL;DR is—- get a new case with a mesh fronted panel and have at least 2~3 fans included. Something similar to Phantek P400A

  Is the 6600 xt a better choice than a 3060?

  At same price, no. More than $100 difference when AMD's cheaper, yes.

  3060 have :
  DLSS,
  4G more VRAM(not that you can really use it with 3060's RAW performance though but it might come handy who knows)
  and you can use FSR on Nvidia cards anyway.

  6600xt have:
  Hackintosh support (are you going to do it though?) and better Linux Drivers.
  RSR support (Note: different to FSR) you can enable in almost every fullscreen game.

  in terms of stability or raw performance, this 2 cards are much of the muchness. Feature aside it would be pure value for money.

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  OMGJL on 01/07/2022 - 07:24

  but with only 16gb of cheap ram

  A side note, GSkill 3200 is considered to me as Cheap RAM too.

  GSkill have a very strict binning process (which means their real high end is GOLDEN), so the bad chip that don't do higher clock will be sold as GSkill 3200c16. (side note, almost every DDR4 memory IC will do 3200C16 no matter if they are trash or not),

  even their mid tier product is not that great(Overclocking wise), since the golden chip will never falling into mid tier either.

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  OMGJL on 01/07/2022 - 07:30

  Another side note, 12400 have basically the same gaming performance as a R5 5600/5600x if both are equipped with 3200 RAM,

  but with the Locked IMC voltage on i5 12400, depends on the silicone lottery, it may or may not achieve 3600 memory speed on Gear1. (Gear 1 as the memory controller runs full speed, opposed to Gear2 running half speed)

  and every AMD r5 5600(x) will do 1:1 FLCK/MCLK (AMD's Gear1) at 3600~3800 memory frequency.

  memory frequency benefits the smoothness of the game A LOT. better memory performance = less frame drop.

  I advice hunt for a Crucial Ballistix 3600c16 32G kit, and r5 5600 with B550 motherboard, unless you can increase your budget for 12600k + B660 Mobo.

  all Intel "K" CPU have memory voltage unlocked, they can easily hit 4000 frequency in Gear1.

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  randomusername2017 on 01/07/2022 - 07:37

  +1 for ditching the proprietary hp case.

  Avoids thermal issues, custom cabling and PSU mounting problems.

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  jakka on 01/07/2022 - 08:01

  What about the floppy drive, or just moving that across from your HP?

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    iDroid on 01/07/2022 - 09:45

    Floppies are a bit out dated, I think pros are using zip or jazz drives these days.

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    teddiebear on 07/07/2022 - 04:58

    I love my 5.25" optical drive :-)
    I have 3× internal bluray drives all mounted in external enclosures via usb3.0. Sadly though, most games i purchase these days don't have a physical copy…. instead they have DL codes.
    But the drives do save pita installation of certain programs from yesteryear so they do come in handy

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  brendanm on 02/07/2022 - 12:08

  Thanks for the advice all, I ended up going with -

  Ryzen 5 5500
  Gigabyte ds3h
  Gigabyte 750w modular PSU gold
  32gb crucial vengeance rgb pro 3200mhz
  Cooler master nr400 case

  Ended up going ryzen due to the availability of raid on non-ridiculously priced motherboards.

  Have left the card for the moment, will grab one when a good deal comes up, or I decide on amd vs NVIDIA.

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    iDroid on 04/07/2022 - 13:35

    Curious why you'd want RAID?

    There's very few cases that make sense for a desktop to need/want/use a RAID configuration.

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      brendanm on 04/07/2022 - 15:10

      I want a mirror of my important stuff in case of drive death, in addition to a backup. Have found out since that the included raid is fake raid anyway, and useless.

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        askbargain on 05/07/2022 - 22:46

        lol who told you to get the 5500

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          brendanm on 06/07/2022 - 06:18

          @askbargain: I actually got the 5600, bit of a typo.