Hagibis U100 USB-C Dock (HDMI 4K@60Hz, M.2 NVMe, USB-C PD + More) Shipped US$97.69 (~A$141.09) @ Hagibis Official AliExpress

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On sale are two USB-C Docking Stations similar to the BlitzWolf I shared earlier, but still quite different. The U100 has a single HDMI 4K@60Hz port, while the U100 Pro for US$108.69 (~A$156.98) has two HDMI 4K@60Hz ports, Ethernet and an extra USB-C Host port for connecting two devices.

One of the unique features is that there's a customisable RGB LED strip on the front that can play in rhythm to sounds/music, be set to different colours, brightness and modes. There's an M.2 NVMe/SATA enclosure built in for extra fast storage and a SD/MicroSD card holder.

On the front there's USB-C, USB 3.1 5Gbps and RGB LED strip, while on the rear there's 2x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.1 10Gbps ports, 3.5mm AUX, SD/MicroSD reader, HDMI (U100 Pro: 2x HDMI), USB-C PD 100W passthrough, 3x USB-C and Ethernet (U100 Pro).

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yoshi864 on 14/06/2022 - 22:15

+2

Need to give these displayport x2
SnoozeAndLose on 14/06/2022 - 22:15

-4

4K@60Hz for the price of $140 is already a rip off with or without 100 different more functions
bdl on 14/06/2022 - 22:22

+2

Who names these companies? :P
- incipient on 14/06/2022 - 22:43
  
  +8
  
  They aren't companies. It's just a guy that emails an OEM and goes "can I have 10k of these with mashes keyboard name on it please?" and then he lists them on every market he can find.
  - happykamper on 14/06/2022 - 23:36
    
    Lol, yeah that sounds about right for dropshit.
- nismoau on 14/06/2022 - 22:53
  
  +1
  
  I read 'haggis' at first :D
- sigplay on 15/06/2022 - 08:39
  
  +1
  
  Hang on it's a great name for a USB-C dock! From wikipedia:
  
  "Hagibis (Filipino word meaning "velocity", "speed"[1] or 'swiftness") is a Filipino disco group best known for their macho image, on-stage costumes, and macho songs about women. Originally formed by Juan dela Cruz Band singer and bassist Mike Hanopol and Vic del Rosario,[2][3] they are cited as the "First Boyband in the Philippines"[4] and later were coined the title "Village People of the Philippines"
netsurfer on 14/06/2022 - 22:43

+1

U100 Pro is really confusing, given that technically, it is not yet possible for a USB-C chipset to do 2x4K/60Hz while retaining USB 3.2 gen 2 (10GB speed). Need Thunderbolt chipset.

U100 Pro seems to be is a device that uses 2 USB-C ports. One for display(s), one for USB 3.2 gen 2 hub and that NVMe SSD slot. You need to use 2 USB-C (or Thunderbolt ports) to use everything. Also, the so called able to do multiple displays for Mac is brave, given that Macs do not support USB-C/MST (so at best you can only get identical displays going). It appears to support 2 devices, but in that mode, one is only able to do display(s), whereas another one is only able to access data it seems. I am quite cynical about this product.

U100, I doubt you can get 4K/60Hz + USB 3.1 gen 2 on that with just a single port being supported (for a USB-C based chipset).
- incipient on 14/06/2022 - 22:49
  
  You're absolutely spot on this is a messy beast with dodgy specs. The dual HDMI confuses me greatly, and I suspect they're either tied to separate usb c inputs entirely, e.g. It's just two docks in one, or they're doing some very random virtual hub internally, which typically don't work well.
  
  4k60+usb3 or greater requires DP1.4 I believe, and there is no way to tell what this dock will actually do.
  
  If you're after dual 4k60 and actually using the SSD + usb ports at anything faster than a few mb/s, you're going to need a thunderbolt dock.
  
  I wouldn't buy this unless you had two usb c ports you could connect at the same time, I can't even tell if a single usb port would work properly? And even with two cables don't rely on 4k60 or getting usb3 speed on either the usb ports or the ssd.
  - netsurfer on 14/06/2022 - 23:10
    
    If I am buying something that's more expensive that the Apple official dongle, then it has to be Thunderbolt chipset based.
    
    U100 Pro is just a mess. I guess if someone only has a 2K monitor and more than happy with USB 3.0 / 3.2 gen 1 speed, then it might be okay to trick the brain (so many ports). In reality, just USB hubs with perhaps 2 USB-C/alt-mode dongles. Also, who knows what chipset is used for the SSD. I guess if it does support both SATA and NVMe, it is probably uses an ASMedia chipset.
- Nom on 15/06/2022 - 12:48
  
  The Pro has a dedicated USB C input purely for the second HDMI display - so yes you need two USB C ports on your device to use this with two displays.
  
  That second USB C is for the second display only - everything else is running from the first USB C…
  - netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 13:02
    
    That makes sense for dual displays, but doesn't explain the USB 3.2 gen 2 part. If 4K/60Hz displays are used on both USB-C ports, neither one has sufficient bandwidth to provide USB 3.2 gen 2. To add to the confusion, I saw a video indicating this thing supports 1 display + 1 USB 3.2 gen 2 (on another USB-C port) as well?
    - Nom on 15/06/2022 - 13:10
      
      +1
      
      I suspect that just means the USB 3.2 Gen 2 just doesn't get the full bandwidth allocation - in practice it'll probably be fine, you just won't get full performance from a connected SSD, but pretty much everything else won't be bandwidth-starved.
      
      It's sort of moot anyway because there is no magical dock that solves all these issues - they're all down to the bonkers complexity of modern USB/DP etc - it's all just a big mess of optional features and none guaranteed standards.
      - netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 14:08
        
        @Nom: So they cheated and faked the Mac USB 3.2 gen 2 NVMe test / screenshot (using an Intel CPU based Macbook Pro I presume) from the Pro model? If so, what else did they also fake?
        
        Are we meant to figure out how to use it properly or just close a blind eye and assume it is all good with a 2K monitor, USB 3.0 is "awesome". Forget about 2x 4K/60Hz & USB 3.2 gen 2 concurrently? Dual ports is already annoying for Macs and is generally quite silly for a PC.
        
        OP did list the non-pro one. That one is easier to understand. It's just a typical USB-C dock with a USB 3.2 gen 1/USB 3 SATA enclosure glued together.
        
        Nom on 15/06/2022 - 14:36
        
        +1
        
        @netsurfer: It's worth pointing out that the dock is doing it's best to overcome these issues, direct your indignation at the USB IF who are the source of all this crapola 😁😁
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 17:19
        
        @Nom: No it's not. It is trying to trick customers. Dual USB-C ports hub doesn't make sense. It cheaps out on some parts so when you really look at it, it is one of those faking it to trick customer dock.
        
        It's silly to use this on a Mac, unless you have too many ports to waste. Rather than bringing a proper solution at an affordable price, it tries to milk customers out with a band-aid solution. Are you going to vouch for this dock that when you connect 2 devices to it that it will give out appropriate USB-PD power to both devices? Since you know USB mess, you would also know the current issue with these dock/hub's el cheapo USB-PD hack design.
        
        Whacky PD passthrough, band-aid workarounds, the m.2/NVMe or SSD would probably ensure it is not a JMicron chipset for the SSD (which is kinda good), but we can pretty much guess it is not the most preferred chipset either.
        
        Clear on 15/06/2022 - 16:30
        
        @netsurfer:
        
        OP did list the non-pro one.
        
        I couldn't list the Pro in the title due to insufficient quantity ;) I'll admit the Pro is certainly hard to understand.
Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 05:46

I know it says it support 4k60hz, but will it take 2k165hz?
- incipient on 15/06/2022 - 17:35
  
  The minimum spec for qhd@165 is DP1.2, which is the same as 4k60. The answer is "it should"…but because it's outputting hdmi, who knows!? 🤪
  
  Honestly buying this you're more than likely going to be disappointed. Get a single display dock without the silly nvme. If you have thunderbolt, get a refurb TB3 dock instead.
  - Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 17:44
    
    Yeah I reckon I will go for a proper TB3 dock. Any shops around you would recommend? New to this and would like one with 2k165hz output and RJ45 in one as a minimum.
    - netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 17:47
      
      Is it for PC or Mac? I am not sure Mac will let me run my Dell at 165Hz to test.
      - Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 17:48
        
        @netsurfer: For my windows laptop, Ive got a TB4 port here.
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 17:50
        
        +1
        
        @Brrrrt: I see… okay, but there is no point getting this for that purpose (even if it works). The same chipset is often found in a $50 dongle. Will try to test it on a PC (interested to know the answer). P.S. I will be testing with a $50 dongle (same type of chipset).
        
        In theory, if a PC supports Thunderbolt 4, then it MUST support at least USB-C/DP 1.4. Problem is, these dongles don't offer full DP 1.4 pipe for display, it has to split it in half to allow data (USB 3.0). You don't have to go Thunderbolt 4 to achieve what you want to achieve (if it is just for display) unless you really want display + USB 3.2 gen 2 from the same port.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 17:56
        
        @netsurfer: Ah gotcha thanks!
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 17:56
        
        @Brrrrt: Could I test 2K/144Hz HDMI mode or you want me to test 2K/165Hz DisplayPort (USB-C to DisplayPort) mode. For latter, I don't have any USB-C based hub to do that, I do have a cable that's supposed to do that BUT that's different to these hubs/docks.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 17:57
        
        @netsurfer: Yeah if HDMI works for 2k144hz that would do just fine. Thanks for going through the trouble for me!
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 18:04
        
        @Brrrrt: Correction, my Dell monitor only allows up to 2K/120Hz in HDMI (I think that's the HDMI 2.0 standard). At that mode, it is fine, both SDR and HDR. However, that's to be expected because we know 4K/60Hz works.
        
        I do have USB-C to DisplayPort 1.4 cable, but that one doesn't have any USB ports, it's purely for display. It can support 8K so I don't think 2K/165Hz would be an issue.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 18:07
        
        @netsurfer: Nice to hear. Thank you for the help!
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 18:15
        
        @Brrrrt: Okay, there is a bit of a twist with USB-C to DisplayPort test.
        
        While Windows is willing to let me choose 165Hz mode when using USB-C to DP 1.4 cable, I don't think my Intel Iris graphics GPU wired to the Thunderbolt port supports 2K/165Hz, the highest I can go up is 2K/165Hz. I don't have access to any nVidia or AMD based GPU with USB-C port. My monitor can do 165Hz via DisplayPort directly to an nVidia or AMD GPU.
        
        If your monitor is 2K/165Hz capable, then it has to support DP 1.4. I don't think Thunderbolt can address the issue in my case because the limit is on the Intel GPU. I don't have a gaming laptop to test 165Hz unfortunately.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 18:32
        
        @netsurfer: Gotcha. Will keep that in mind
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 19:02
        
        @Brrrrt: Sorry, correcting a typo, the highest 2K refresh rate via USB-C with my setup is currently 2K/144Hz. I think the limit is the embedded Iris Graphics GPU.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 19:22
        
        @netsurfer: Ah ok. I can use my dGPU so I think I should be set for that haha
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 19:46
        
        +1
        
        @Brrrrt: So sorry for yet another correction. I've decided to re-test again. That's due to trying out mini DisplayPort on that same machine with the 2K monitor (165Hz is supported by the GPU). Here are the results:
        
        Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort: 2K/165Hz no issue
        
        USB-C to HDMI ($50 dongle with 4K/60Hz support): Highest 2K resolution refresh rate possible is 2K/120Hz
        
        USB-C to DisplayPort (using 8K/DP 1.4 capable adapter & cable): It is iffy. If I raised from 2K/60Hz straight to 2K/165Hz, it doesn't seem to work. However, if I gradually raised the refresh rate, i.e. 60Hz -> 120Hz -> 144Hz -> 165Hz, then the 165Hz does work. Changing refresh rate above 120Hz isn't reliable.
        
        I tried both Thunderbolt ports and both have the same issue. Reliability on USB-C/alt-mode to DisplayPort above 120Hz isn't perfect. So, (mini) DisplayPort to DisplayPort is the best method. I don't rule out it is the 8K/DP 1.4 adapter being dodgy or maybe it is the GPU. The behaviour is that Windows allowing me to choose the mode / refresh rate I want (up to 165Hz) every time, but the mode switch doesn't always succeed (the progressive refresh rate increase seems to help).
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 20:13
        
        @netsurfer: Thanks heaps! So a dock with mini DP port works best, I guess its because it doesn thave to go through the 'conversion' process of the other adapters? That's interesting to see.
        
        And yeah maybe its windows at fault, microsoft not even once XD
        
        netsurfer on 15/06/2022 - 21:13
        
        @Brrrrt: Um… no, the finding is that, if you can, avoid Thunderbolt / USB-C, native DisplayPort and native HDMI port work best. The machine I used to test elected to provide a mini DisplayPort, instead of a standard DisplayPort. But consider it as native DisplayPort to DisplayPort.
        
        If USB-C/alt-mode has to be used, then HDMI might have less issue (but you are limited to HDMI 2.0's 2K/120Hz). USB-C to Display-Port, while it is technically possible to achieve 2K/165Hz, the reliability is a concern. Furthermore, testing was done using an USB-C to DisplayPort dongle capable of supporting 8K/60Hz (not the older 4K/60Hz type dongle). So, we do not know whether any USB-C dongle with DisplayPort + USB ports can output 2K/165Hz yet.
        
        USB-C/alt-mode and Thunderbolt/alt-mode honestly are a big mess. Great marketing from Apple and Intel, but it is annoying (when you want high resolution 4K or above or high refresh rate (2K 144Hz or higher). Fundamentally, even with Thunderbolt 4, it is essentially PCIe gen 3 x4. A new standard is coming, USB 4.0/USB-C/Alt-mode DP 2.0 (yes, alt mode DisplayPort 2.0 support is coming, and that also translates to HDMI 2.1 support) so there will most likely be a new revision of Thunderbolt 4 with DP 2.0 coming up (and no, based on history, we will require a new Thunderbolt 4 chip). So, all my 8K dongles will become inferior grade junk once DP 2.0 wave hits.
        
        Brrrrt on 15/06/2022 - 21:16
        
        @netsurfer: Ah oh ok I thought you tested the DB and HDMI ports that on a dock or something.
        
        My machine dont have a DP or a mini DP, but have a type C over DP and a TB4 port, wanted to utilise the TB port somehow haha
    - incipient on 15/06/2022 - 18:08
      
      If you're wanting that, make sure your monitor supports DP1.4, to be safe (if you haven't got it already).
      
      The best option I've found so far are the refurb sellers on ebay. Reasonable prices with more choice, and some level of protection.
      
      Honestly it's still quite difficult haha. I've tried a TB3 hp dock that worked well, and a lenovo usb c non-tb dock and both worked well for a single 4k60 screen along with data/Ethernet.
      - Nom on 15/06/2022 - 20:48
        
        @incipient: This is TOP THREADING 😁😁

This was posted 2 years 5 months 8 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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